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Brute
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 Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: 60 Minute Edit Limit...? |
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| Quote: | | You are only allowed to edit your post within the first 60 minute(s) of it being submitted. |
Why do we only have 60 minutes to edit a post after it was submitted?
I posted a new topic earlier and nobody has replied or anything yet, and I was just going to add one little thing to it because there was something that I didn't know about when I first made the topic, but now I can't do anything with the post. That's been happening since I came back, and it's bugging me. 60 minutes isn't long enough!
Maybe it would make more sense if this forum was as active as it used to be, but it's not. Sometimes it can take hours for a new topic to be noticed, so I don't see why we can't have more time to add or fix something in a post.
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LP-Harvey
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:12 pm Post subject: Re: 60 Minute Edit Limit...? |
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| Brute wrote: | | Quote: | | You are only allowed to edit your post within the first 60 minute(s) of it being submitted. |
Why do we only have 60 minutes to edit a post after it was submitted?
I posted a new topic earlier and nobody has replied or anything yet, and I was just going to add one little thing to it because there was something that I didn't know about when I first made the topic, but now I can't do anything with the post. That's been happening since I came back, and it's bugging me. 60 minutes isn't long enough!
Maybe it would make more sense if this forum was as active as it used to be, but it's not. Sometimes it can take hours for a new topic to be noticed, so I don't see why we can't have more time to add or fix something in a post. |
The mods are really laxed on double posting. So if you're second post is an hour later and actually adds to the thread, it'll be ignored.
As for editing in regards to activity, when you edit a thread, it does not update the thread as "new." In fact, it'll act as if nothing has happened and it will further be pilled on by more active topics. |
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martin
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| Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:52 pm Post subject: |
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I thaught the 60 minute edit limit was to be sure no one commit fraud posting a lot of spam and then editing. Because when I edit my post I don't see anymessage that tell me points were modified. I programmed a points system in my forums and when users edit they see how many points where added or taken away after edition.
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spock
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Location: The Netherlands
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: |
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| martin wrote: | | I thaught the 60 minute edit limit was to be sure no one commit fraud posting a lot of spam and then editing. |
Well, it was possible to make good posts and wait a few days untill they went of the page, and then edit your posts to long texts. You could make a lot of VSP with that, and that's why they fixed it with a 60 minute limit.
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Pie32
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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| martin wrote: | | I thaught the 60 minute edit limit was to be sure no one commit fraud posting a lot of spam and then editing. Because when I edit my post I don't see anymessage that tell me points were modified. I programmed a points system in my forums and when users edit they see how many points where added or taken away after edition. |
That happens on this forum, or at least it used to happen. I remember editing a post before with a few sentences that I had forgotten to include and getting a message that told me the post was worth 1 PBPP and I had earned an extra PBPP. Also, it has happened where I have taken away some stuff from a post and have earned a negative amount of PBPP.
Very minor edits, will not result in any change of PBPP and so the message will not be displayed.
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Scott
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| Posted: Tue Apr 24, 2007 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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I believe this was put in place because someone figured out (I am not sure if anyone actually did this?) that they could dig up and old post that they made, and the topic had disappeared since it became inactive, so no one looked at it and then they would edit the post and just fill it up with junk and get lots of points and the post would not go to the top of the list because it was being edited and not a new post, and no one would notice that someone was doing this unless by chance someone was reading an old post.
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AK-87
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| Posted: Wed Apr 25, 2007 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| Scott wrote: | | I believe this was put in place because someone figured out (I am not sure if anyone actually did this?) that they could dig up and old post that they made, and the topic had disappeared since it became inactive, so no one looked at it and then they would edit the post and just fill it up with junk and get lots of points and the post would not go to the top of the list because it was being edited and not a new post, and no one would notice that someone was doing this unless by chance someone was reading an old post. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 2:26 am Post subject: |
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I think the 60 minute thing is a little buggy... Today I posted something and tried to edit it one minute after posting. It said it had allready been 60 minutes!!!
Another very strange thing that happened to me today is, I posted something, and somehow it double posted my message. Then when I went to delete my post, it said "you can not delete someone elses post." Or something like that. It was 100% my post! And I tried to delete it 1 minute after posting....
Something is very strange here.... I have never had so many strange problems like this on a forum. I'm freaked out... 
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| If you double posted, you cannot delete the first posting, only the second one, sometimes there is no "delete" button for the second post until you refresh the page... it doesn't happen much unless you press submit twice or accidentally refresh at the wrong time. Remember that the server processes your post before showing that the post was submitted so your post may not appear to be submitted when it really is. As for the edit issue, there has been no problem for me with many edits, when and where did it happen? Could it have been daylight savings, and while I doubt that, I don't see anything else that would cause such a strange bug. Anyway, nothing to "freak out" about and I'm sure many of the long time members will tell you that hardly anything goes wrong here, with the forums or the hosting. |
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 5:55 am Post subject: |
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I refreshed and tried to delete the second post, and it would not let me delete it. So I tried to edit it and it said "you can not edit someone elses post." Boy was I shocked!
I also find quite frequently that a page fails to load, or loads very slowly. It doesn't happen to any other webpages just here. I'm starting to have second thoughts about having my web page hosted here. 
Hopefully this is just a temporary thing and my site etc, will load fine...
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Neil
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| Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 7:05 pm Post subject: |
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| asusreviews.com wrote: | I refreshed and tried to delete the second post, and it would not let me delete it. So I tried to edit it and it said "you can not edit someone elses post." Boy was I shocked!
I also find quite frequently that a page fails to load, or loads very slowly. It doesn't happen to any other webpages just here. I'm starting to have second thoughts about having my web page hosted here.
Hopefully this is just a temporary thing and my site etc, will load fine... |
I have never experienced any of the problems that you are experiencing. |
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jthomsonmain
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Another reason for the 60 min post lock is that sometimes when people get really pissed off, they go through and delete all of their posts, thus making the thread unreadable. I have seen It happen before, and honestly, I would do it myself if someone pissed me off enough!
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Jacky
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| jthomsonmain wrote: | | Another reason for the 60 min post lock is that sometimes when people get really pissed off, they go through and delete all of their posts, thus making the thread unreadable. I have seen It happen before, and honestly, I would do it myself if someone pissed me off enough! |
1) You don't need to bring up such an old topic.
2) Who would cares if you delete posts off an old topic? No one reads it anyway.
3) The whole point is to prevent people from earning a lot of points by editing an old topic, insert junk in it and get tons of PBPP.
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| Jacky wrote: | | 1) You don't need to bring up such an old topic. |
Sorry, didnt know that this topic was old. I read some of the other posts and saw that old posts where locked.
| Jacky wrote: | | 2) Who would cares if you delete posts off an old topic? No one reads it anyway. |
A 60 minute old post is not old. Just think of it. Someone makes a thread. 2 or 3 people reply to that thread. Now hosting is denied to that person, and they go back and delete all of their posts. That thread will now be unreadable to anyone else that wants to reply.
| Jacky wrote: | | 3) The whole point is to prevent people from earning a lot of points by editing an old topic, insert junk in it and get tons of PBPP. |
And I am just strengthening your case by adding another reason to do it!
I do not want to get into and argument about this, I am just telling you my opinions.
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Jacky
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| jthomsonmain wrote: | | Jacky wrote: | | 1) You don't need to bring up such an old topic. |
Sorry, didnt know that this topic was old. I read some of the other posts and saw that old posts where locked.
| Jacky wrote: | | 2) Who would cares if you delete posts off an old topic? No one reads it anyway. |
A 60 minute old post is not old. Just think of it. Someone makes a thread. 2 or 3 people reply to that thread. Now hosting is denied to that person, and they go back and delete all of their posts. That thread will now be unreadable to anyone else that wants to reply.
| Jacky wrote: | | 3) The whole point is to prevent people from earning a lot of points by editing an old topic, insert junk in it and get tons of PBPP. |
And I am just strengthening your case by adding another reason to do it!
I do not want to get into and argument about this, I am just telling you my opinions. |
The topic author cannot delete other people's posts, only his own.
And what sort of topic can people delete posts and make it "unreadable"?
If it's a discussion topic, anyone can just re-create one.
If it's a requesting support topic and the topic author decides to delete it "out of piss", who would cares? Any important information would be added to the Knowledge Base anyway.
If it's a requesting help topic, only the topic author cares. If supposing someone feels that he/she doesn't want to share the solution anymore, he/she can just report his/her post and request a moderator to delete the post.
My point is that, what the MOD wanted to achieve is to prevent people from earning a lot of PBPP by editing old topics (as in they are not listed in the topic listing, or hidden in page 4 of the topic listing).
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