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mcwkm
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| LP-Trel wrote: | I can see both sides of the arguement and I typically side with the visitors. Many websites have started to push advertising in a way that makes some websites nearly unusable for various reasons. The biggest offender in my opinion would be websites that use Adobe Flash based advertising. I hate that.  |
It's the best when you visit the site and it's not Flash based and you don't have flash installed but you get the popup to install flash for an advertisement. |
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LP-Trel
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spock
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| ClickFanatic wrote: | Well, the problem is: many sites are doing it correctly (using ads in an unobtrusive way), but there are some sites that swamp their visitors with flashing banners and/or popups.
As a visitor, you want to arm yourself effectively against these websites, because they ruin your web experience (quite severely, sometimes). AdBlock Plus is one of the most effective tools, but unfortunately for the 'good' webmasters it blocks all ads. |
I completely agree.
And that's actually why I uninstalled AdBlock. To make sure 'good' webmasters get the revenue they deserve. (And I just try to avoid visiting sites with a lot of intrusive ads. )
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LP-SolidRaven
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Well, I simply turn it on for the sites where the advertisements cause annoying side effects.
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| spock wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | Well, the problem is: many sites are doing it correctly (using ads in an unobtrusive way), but there are some sites that swamp their visitors with flashing banners and/or popups.
As a visitor, you want to arm yourself effectively against these websites, because they ruin your web experience (quite severely, sometimes). AdBlock Plus is one of the most effective tools, but unfortunately for the 'good' webmasters it blocks all ads. |
I completely agree.
And that's actually why I uninstalled AdBlock. To make sure 'good' webmasters get the revenue they deserve. (And I just try to avoid visiting sites with a lot of intrusive ads. ) |
You can actually disable adblock for certain websites with just a few clicks.
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spock
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| Posted: Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:50 am Post subject: |
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You can actually disable adblock for certain websites with just a few clicks. |
True, but you don't know which sites have 'good' webmasters. And I like to give people a chance toshow they've done it right 
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ClickFanatic
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I completely forgot, thanks for pointing that out. *disabled ABP for some sites*
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mcwkm
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| LP-Trel wrote: | | spock wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | Well, the problem is: many sites are doing it correctly (using ads in an unobtrusive way), but there are some sites that swamp their visitors with flashing banners and/or popups.
As a visitor, you want to arm yourself effectively against these websites, because they ruin your web experience (quite severely, sometimes). AdBlock Plus is one of the most effective tools, but unfortunately for the 'good' webmasters it blocks all ads. |
I completely agree.
And that's actually why I uninstalled AdBlock. To make sure 'good' webmasters get the revenue they deserve. (And I just try to avoid visiting sites with a lot of intrusive ads. ) |
You can actually disable adblock for certain websites with just a few clicks. |
This doesn't work when you are visiting new sites seeing how the advertisements will have to load once for you to know that it contains bad web advertising. |
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ClickFanatic
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| mcwkm wrote: | | This doesn't work when you are visiting new sites seeing how the advertisements will have to load once for you to know that it contains bad web advertising. |
Well, since most of the ads on the web are contextual I do enable them for some sites because the advertisement may actually contain something that I find relevant. Weblogs about web development or design that I regularly visit are a good example, in my case.
Usually, you can also judge by the looks of a website whether it will have annoying ads or not (the more design-conscious websites usually have nicer, less obtrusive ads).
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Rashy
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Personally I find that even "contextual" ads aren't very useful. As in, I don't think I would find a contextual ad more appealing to click than an non-contextual one. Now I am sure that the data Google collects on this would beg to differ for the majority of people.
I think that the world over needs to evaluate exactly what exactly they should advertise, especially depending on the medium. For example, try and find something that will genuinely interest the viewer of the ads.
For example, if visiting SmashingMagazine I wouldn't be the slightest bit interested in hiring somebody to do "PSD to HTML" for me, but an ad that would catch my interest is something that says "10 Helpful Tricks to Convert Designs to Code" which would lead to said article, and in/alongside that article it would say "Need a little help? We could do this for you!"
See what I mean? Better advertising by inviting the viewer to something free, but sell them your service through that free product.
A different medium: TV. Some national grocery store puts an ad on any station saying something like "Flip to the food channel food channel for Amazing Cooking Show!" and then for the ad breaks of that cooking show you advertise ingredients/products that could make whatever food they are cooking on the show.
By the way, I should patent this idea or something like that.
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Kesava
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I use Adblock Plus and think that it is great. I do however disable it on certain websites such as this one because revenue is generated though the ads.
It is definiately the first extension I install when I setup Firefox. |
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spock
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I really hate those annoying flash ads that 'jump out of their box' and basically cover the whole website. I see those more and more the last few months.
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It's good for me as I never click ads. I often am at a browser without any ad blocking software and I only get annoyed. I've learned not to trust almost every ad, even Google sponsored links and ads, and the only time I do is by accident, i.e. when I am quickly downloading an obscure program and an advertisement decides to have a "download now" graphic many times more prominent than the actual site's download button.
The only use for me to not use Adblock is to waste competitors' advertising credits by clicking on their links!
| spock wrote: | | I really hate those annoying flash ads that 'jump out of their box' and basically cover the whole website. I see those more and more the last few months. |
That and full page ads with a "skip" link and/or timer.
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ClickFanatic
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| krt wrote: | | the only time I do is by accident |
Same here. I sometimes click the ad several times repeatedly after I clicked it by accident, just to confuse the advertiser and maybe generate some income for the site even though I am completely not interested in the advertised product. It could be seen as click-fraud, though.
Maybe I'm just crazy... but it feels like I am literally making them pay for their stupid ad.
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Jacky
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| ClickFanatic wrote: | | krt wrote: | | the only time I do is by accident |
Same here. I sometimes click the ad several times repeatedly after I clicked it by accident, just to confuse the advertiser and maybe generate some income for the site even though I am completely not interested in the advertised product. It could be seen as click-fraud, though.
Maybe I'm just crazy... but it feels like I am literally making them pay for their stupid ad. |
There are times when I hate an ad for irritating me.
Your suggestion is great.
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| ClickFanatic wrote: | Your nonsense make my forum visits rather brief, Jacky. It's like:
"Hey look, a reply notification!"
*click* *click*
*reading garbage*
"Oh it was Jacky again..."
*close* |
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