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Syle
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My personal opinion is that there is no heaven and hell but if i did believe in them then ofcourse there would have to be a line that divided the "small" sins from te big ones.

Also i;d like to find out people's opinions about something that has been bothering me for some time now. Lieing seems to be a sin, but nevertheless the fact that the pope is gods messenger on earth is a lie since the Pope is elected by humans and thus is not a messenger of god. But this woud mean that the whole catolic church is a sin and that can't be right since it contradicts everything they believe in.

And now back to whether all sins are equall...well obviously murder is worse than stealing candy, but the real question is where do we draw the line?

Is breaking someone's leg worse than stealing 50 thousand dollars? Is raping a child worse than stealing a million dollars? it is very hard to draw the line...we do not live in a world of black and white...we live in a "gray" world.
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wellingtonboots
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 26, 2007 7:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think what is meant by all sins are the same is that sinning is crime not matter what you have done. Although God may judge you according to how serious your sin is. Everytime you sin whether its stealing or murder you will have struck God.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder how this very old topic avoided being locked out? No matter.

Wellington boots is correct when he states that all sins are an offense against God but it is not correct to say that all sins are the same. When one hears the phrase, "all sins are equal," it is expressing a Protestant/Fundamentalist notion of sin, rather than a Christian one. For the Protestant/Fundamentalists, he has this strange notion that he is saved by faith alone and that the saved, especially those whose beliefs follow Calvin's in one form or another, are incapable of sin. For them sin is a sign of man's corrupted nature and righteousness, at least outwardly, is a sign of him being saved. Those who commit sin cannot be saved, in their view.

From the Christian perspective, all men sin but that there are degrees of sin. The severity of sin is usually classified into two kinds, grave sins, also known as mortal sin, and venial sins. Grave sins deprive us of eternal life that is to say, the sanctifying grace of the Holy Ghost indwelling within our souls which in turn deprives us of entry into heaven. Venial sins are sins of a minor nature and do not deprive us of eternal life,however, sin is progressive. The more one sins, even in a minor way, the more one is inclined to commit other sins. Venial sin corrupts the soul bit by bit until a person commits actual mortal sin and deprives himself of eternal life.

Mortal sins can be generally divided into two classes: sins against God and sins against man. Sins against God include the denial of God's existence, blasphemy and heresy (ie. belief in a false religion like one of the Protestant sects, Judaism or Islam or even weird religious beliefs like Scientology). Sins against man are obvious, like murder, theft and promoting equality and democracy. All of these things will get you thrown in hell when you die.
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dylan2xs
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 12:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well if you believe in God, he will judge the world in righteousness, which means it's not a yes or no you didn't make it you did which it would be had there only been one degree of punishment. I think it doesn't matter how much a sin hurts someone or yourself, it only matters that it separates us from a holy God. But the first thing that someone should be considering is whether the idea of sin is actually real. The idea of sin assumes certain things about God that seem highly unlikely. but all this talk about sin sounds like a weird to me, first it assumes a God who can not organize things very well.How likely is this that God would not be smart enough to come up with a plan for our salvation that is going to work?

If we are sinners, so It also assumes that God must have created us imperfect. One might assume that God would be able to create someone perfect each and every time if he chose to. Assuming God is capable of this, then it follows logically that we must be perfect creations if we are actually creations of this perfect God...unless of course that God chose to create us imperfect. If God created us imperfect then its Gods fault not ours anything that may go wrong. If this is the case and Gods creations are perfect, then nothing that we can do could change what God created perfect and make it imperfect unless we think that we are more powerful than God is.
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