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mcwkm
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 06, 2008 10:13 pm    Post subject: art vs commercialization Reply with quote

This has probably been discussed before the debate of art vs commercialism. When a painter paints a portrait does it matter if it is done in the name of art or the name of money? Point of the thread is really does selling out matter and have anything to do with the art itself?
A lot of people including myself view selling out in as a bad thing. I am not against artists being compensated for their work but when they are just making art in order to make money and not to create a great work, they cannot be considered an artist and they are essentially businessmen.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcwkm wrote:
This has probably been discussed before the debate of art vs commercialism. When a painter paints a portrait does it matter if it is done in the name of art or the name of money? Point of the thread is really does selling out matter and have anything to do with the art itself?
A lot of people including myself view selling out in as a bad thing. I am not against artists being compensated for their work but when they are just making art in order to make money and not to create a great work, they cannot be considered an artist and they are essentially businessmen.
If you are a great artist and you make great works, do you think too sell your work would spoil the work itself?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If I knew an artist who sold their paintings, I wouldnt think ofthem as a sell out. Because its still good art being created, so what if they sell some things. If I wanted to sell my artwork I would probably save my best works. Plus, people need to make a living if art is the only thing they want to do, then selling it is their only option.

If any of you are web-designers here and sell your work, would you count that as selling out? As I believe it is still a form of art.
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mcwkm
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kenoodo wrote:
mcwkm wrote:
This has probably been discussed before the debate of art vs commercialism. When a painter paints a portrait does it matter if it is done in the name of art or the name of money? Point of the thread is really does selling out matter and have anything to do with the art itself?
A lot of people including myself view selling out in as a bad thing. I am not against artists being compensated for their work but when they are just making art in order to make money and not to create a great work, they cannot be considered an artist and they are essentially businessmen.
If you are a great artist and you make great works, do you think too sell your work would spoil the work itself?

in my mind it is why you are making the piece to begin work. if they are making it just to sell the piece, I would not consider them an artist. Now if someone creates a piece and ends up selling it but their reason for making it was for there desire to create something great or just for the sake of art.
when i say art, i'm combining music, painting, drawing, writing and anything similar
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Charlotte
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think its okay to create certain art for the sake of money, but if that was your sole reason to do it, then I would call you a sell out. If you did it for money and for art then its okay
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let's all take a little art history lesson shall we. Almost all, if not every master (traditional) painter was commissioned to do atleast one painting, but in most cases hundreds and thousands of paintings were commissioned for each artist. This is how painters and art makers in earlier periods got by, art was essentially their career and job; while others blacksmithed, or were bakers, etc.

Calling people that sell their art "sell-outs" is no different than calling those same blacksmiths or bakers sell-outs because they are selling what they created in their own skill-set.
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