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mcwkm
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Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 3:20 pm Post subject:

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

Actually, a lot of universities and colleges aren't replacing their desktop computers in the labs any more so you need a laptop. And CATIA, AutoCAD, etc. do have student versions though. Also sometimes it's not announced on their website but you might try sending an email.

I've attended 4 different universities/colleges and all 4 plan to keep their desktops up to date. I have not yet seen any university that does not offer up to date systems to use for their systems around here. How about some examples of these universities because I have yet to see one university cut buying new computers for every lab about every 4 years.
This may just be differences in our locations.

Myst
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:12 am Post subject:

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

They do have student versions, but most of them cost money (even if it's just a fraction of the retail price - it's still hundreds of dollars). There are some CAD packages which give out free stuff to unis though (which I do have). However, my university is still replacing their computers fairly often, so meh Silly

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

Usability and time it lasts in general (you won't have to buy a new one too soon).

Usability comes down to this size issue again, and time it lasts is wrong - you don't need to upgrade your computer if you're just surfing the web.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

Actually, all he had to do was find a dell certified dealer.

I just had to make a phone call and wait for my box to arrive, put my laptop inside and let it go Smile

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

Actually, consider the 10" or smaller screen Wink

We've already established that I don't have any problems with the screen Silly

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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But OMG it's APPLE!!!!!!!1!!!!1!!!1!1111!!!

Silly

Palm Treo owns the iPhone.

But OMG it's APPLE!!!!!!!1!!!!1!!!1!1111!!!

Silly

.... but in all seriousness, the touch interface is awesome, as are the gesture shortcuts and stuff - it's just typing which is a pain.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

Muscle training Silly

Hmmm... I do need some of that.

Jacky
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 5:01 am Post subject:

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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I don't have an Eeepc. Nor do I wish to buy one right now. Lets have a look at the Dells though. The cheapest Dell I can buy here (which, incidentally is also the Inspiron 13) costs A$1300.

Interestingly enough, I can also buy an Inspiron Mini (which is in the same league as the Eeepc) for about the same price as an Eeepc.

Actually the Inspiron 13 costs as much as the Eee 1000h...

Here the Inspiron Mini cost double that of the Eee PC 1000H, and yes, it's 1000H and not 1000HA which is even cheaper.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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But, once again, the reason you'd buy an Eeepc is if you wanted something that was light. Hell, I know a girl that's got one because she likes to carry it around in her handbag. If she needs to access the internet at uni, she can just whip it out.

It's a convenience that you can't get with a conventional laptop.

Wow, you'll need a big handbag to carry that around. Talk about bad habits and carrying around a lot on a bad way...

I fail to see how you need a big bag to carry that Eee PC.

Even the Eee PC 1000H is light enough to carry in your hand.

The smaller Eee PC 701 or 901 are definitely lighter.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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I fail to see how the LCD is "cheap".

Face it, the price you pay vs the quality of the LCD panel is daylight robbery.

Prove to us that all our money goes into the LCD panel.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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And with the same OS and configuration a business laptop can easily hit above 4 hours.

You know what the problem is with a lot of these people? They fail to see that some manufacturers sell business models at the same price as home models or even cheaper actually.

And what are some of these manufacturers that you are talking about?

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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I can pick more examples: Compaq Presario CQ40, Compaq Presario CQ20, Acer Aspire 2920Z.

They all come with integrated graphics, mostly using Intel GMA. And they never hit 4 hours with the standard 6-cell.

Well has intel ever been known for making products that are power efficient?

It's not power efficient but it definitely saves more battery life than an NVIDIA or an ATI.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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That will depend on region.

In some regions they don't offer it, in some regions they offer it for a price, in some regions they offer it free.

Pretty much the same as how they offer recovery discs for their own laptops in different regions. In the US you can probably request a set from them free, in Asia you may have to pay for them or they just don't offer it at all.

And that's another reason why you're better of buying a real laptop. The support is a thousand times better.

That's what I'm trying to mean.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Yes that's the way to make an example.

The Eee PC is sort of getting carried around as people's mobile phone, just that you use this thing to access the Net instead.

Mobile broadband is getting popular due to the convenience of not having to find a WiFi hotspot. You can simply place the Eee PC in your pocket or bag with a wireless modem, and when you want to find out something on the Net while you are outside you simply whip it out like your phone to use it.

Guess what, people do that all the time with their regular laptop...

Depends on individuals. Personally I wouldn't want to carry my laptop with me and use it on a train ride.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Yes most phones offer this feature, but it's about the size and form-factor. With a Eee PC 1000H you can store all your files in the 160GB hard drive and you can use it as though you are using your laptop at home, but with a touchscreen phone the screen size is rather limited.

Some people can adapt to using just their phone but for some who got a little bit of extra money they would want to get a Eee PC to bring along with.

Most people don't realize that the phone's built in browser is terrible in a lot of cases. But fact is, I'd rather buy an iPhone than get an Eee. (And that comes from a person that thinks apple is several times worse than microsoft).

You do realize that the 1000h is terribly overpriced for what it offers? It's the most expensive piece of junk that is considered a netbook to ever come out of ASUS.

The "netbooks" are just a hype. Phones are great to browse the internet. And real laptops can at least run demanding applications when needed. On the other hand the fail-version laptops (also known as netbooks) can't really run anything resource demanding and is overpriced.

You are just bent on the fact that they are overpriced, but it's a matter of preference. If you prefer it it simply will be worth the money.

You talked about iPhone, but to me I can simply do what iPhone does on my netbook and even more. So what would I say? The iPhone is an expensive junk. That principle applies to those who hate Macs and those Mac fanatics who hate PCs.

A netbook is not for you to buy as a primary PC, it's optional for you to buy it as a secondary PC to complement your primary.

It's a hype because many people know it will still be of use. It's just like people buying Macs instead of PCs. Both runs a bloated OS, but some goes for the Mac just because it looks fancy. Does it justify the price? It does to them, but it doesn't to those who hate Macs.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

krt wrote:

I'd join the argument but this is going nowhere.

SolidRaven wrote:

Guess what, people do that all the time with their regular laptop...

Whip a regular laptop out of their pocket? Care to share the secret?

That's enough.

You won't be able to fit a Eee in your pocket either.

Depends on what pants you wear.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Such as?

Q-Force to give an example.

Never even heard of it. In short consumers won't know it and won't go for it.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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So you think that it makes more sense to take a large laptop to uni when you're only taking notes in class, and have to lug it around everywhere. I know I'd rather take a 800 gram Eeepc around than a 2.5 kg laptop...

Have fun running anything more than a basic text editor on it. If you ever need to use it for something that requires more processing power you'll have to bring in a real laptop since a lot of universities and colleges simply expect students to have their own laptops these days.

And I mentioned that some people even managed to get a game of CS 1.6 running on it. Yes not that great but at least better than what you said.

And it doesn't just applies to school work.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Actually the Inspiron 13 costs as much as the Eee 1000h...

It definitely doesn't here Silly

I'd just checked the Dell website at that point, and the cheapest Dell there was $1300. Without any upgrades. I know that I can walk into a shop and get a 1000H for $800. This is not the same price. Smile

Go and look on the dell website. Or Dell's pricing in Australia sucks.

It cost double that of the Eee PC 1000H.

And there's the 701, 901, 1000HA which is even cheaper than the 1000H.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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It's not any bigger than what she was using previously Smile

And yeah, great argument Silly

Actually my point is valid though, you'll still need a backpack to carry it around.

You don't, even a plastic bag is enough.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

It's a big push now. That's why the Core 2 Duo range came in. Hell, it's why they moved to Multiple cores in the first place... And what are you comparing to? AMD?

In general Intel's products haven't been really power efficient. That somewhat changed in terms of CPU design but in other aspects they still have to catch up with the market. a NVidia or ATI integrated graphics chip will use less power than an Intel one.

Prove that NVIDIA and ATI integrated solutions are better than Intel GMA with benchmarks and real-world performance.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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I have an iPhone. Sure, the browser is ok, pretty good for a small-resolution, tiny screen. Interface is pretty good too. However, it's nothing compared to having a real keyboard, and being able to see the whole webpage at once. There's no way I'd do anything important on it. Form entry is almost completely out of the question. Why? Because it's too hard to try to type.

And you are willing to type on the miniature keyboard of an Eee?

I have typed on a Kohjinsha UMPC (which is smaller than a netbook), and I can tell you that from a person who has used both laptop and desktop keyboards before you don't even need to spend time to adapt to it.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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The thing is, 90% of people never need to run anything resource-intensive. I think you said something like that at the start of the thread...

If you want to make such a laptop you should make the price according to what you offer. And don't raise it like they're doing now.

They are lowering it in fact.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Anyhow, just to re-iterate my point. When buying a small laptop, you're paying for the size of the thing. It's like people who buy sleek new phone. Even if it's internally identical to another phone - they pay that little bit more so that it's not so bulky. The same thing applies here.

You know what the increased weight of a real laptop is for, right?
The weight is the battery and the bigger screen. Additionally they didn't use cheap plastics that look so damned ugly.

Whether or not it looks ugly depends on individuals.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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And smaller. And thus easier to carry around. ie, it provides something that a regular laptop cannot.

That's one thing vs. many.

Such as?

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

But you're wrong, because she carries it around in her handbag Silly

Besides, you'd need a smaller bag compared to the original laptop, and you won't be breaking your back doing it.

That means you'll be carrying in excess of 2kg in your handbag if you already put a laptop in there you can expect to find a lot more crap in there.[/quote]
If you already carry a laptop there's no point carrying an additional netbook.

The netbook is for those not carrying a laptop and wants to carry something lighter instead.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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That shows that it's (fairly) expensive in some parts of the world - not that it's junk Silly

Compared to what you can buy for that it's crap Silly

You still don't get the point.

Because it's expensive in your region, that's why for the same price you can buy an even more powerful laptop and that's why you classify it as crap and junk.

But for us where it's cheaper than a laptop and it serves a purpose it does not belong to your category.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

They are overpriced compared to oversized laptops. People should stop thinking that the prices in the US and Canada count for the rest of the world.

You shouldn't think that your EU prices count for the rest of the world either.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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I know, but I have a desktop to handle those kinds of things, and there are labs at uni if I need it there. Anyhow, the big, big ones aren't available on educational licenses anyway (think ANSYS - the proper version).

Depends by countries and universities.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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I see it as power vs portability. What else you got? Silly

Usability and time it lasts in general (you won't have to buy a new one too soon).

Who says the Eee PC won't last?

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Doesn't change the fact that it's true.

You should always carry anything around or more than 1kg in a backpack anyway. So the Eee pretty much qualifies in that aspect.

Before the Eee PC 1000 they are less than 1kg.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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At 1024 wide? I'd think that wouldn't be a problem given that we were all using 800x600 once Silly

Actually, consider the 10" or smaller screen Wink

For those of us who are used to it it won't be a problem.
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*click* *click*
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"Oh it was Jacky again..."
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LP-SolidRaven
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Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:28 pm Post subject:

You're pretty much responding with the same you did the last few pages. So I'll pick out the things I haven't responded to yet:

Jacky wrote:

Depends on what pants you wear.

I'd like to see you walk around on the street with pants you can fit something bigger than 10" in it. Silly

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Never even heard of it. In short consumers won't know it and won't go for it.

They're not a huge multinational company.

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It cost double that of the Eee PC 1000H.

And there's the 701, 901, 1000HA which is even cheaper than the 1000H.

You're plain ignoring the screenshot I posted...

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You don't, even a plastic bag is enough.

I can also carry my laptop in a plastic bag, they're not limited to 1kg you know...

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Prove that NVIDIA and ATI integrated solutions are better than Intel GMA with benchmarks and real-world performance.

http://www.thetechlounge.com/a.....Vs-nVidia/
(and yes I know this is from 2007 but this is the type of stuff they'll put in low budget laptops) Keep in mind the recent NVidia onboards beat anything intel and amd have ever made though in terms of performance and features. It's pretty much like soldering a low budget graphics card to your motherboard Silly

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Sure if you type slow, it's no problem.

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They are lowering it in fact.

They aren't doing that here.

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Whether or not it looks ugly depends on individuals.

Most of the Eee's look like the laptop-like things they give to kids with games on them.

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I stopped caring about non EU prices about a year ago cause the fact is that everybody expects us to adapt to them. Also keep in mind everything in the EU is considerably more expensive.

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Depends by countries and universities.

Clearly.

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Who says the Eee PC won't last?

Cheap plastic vs high quality plastic

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Before the Eee PC 1000 they are less than 1kg.

Yes, and that's real post stamp size.

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For those of us who are used to it it won't be a problem.

It's not cause you're used to something that it's good.
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Jacky
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Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 4:07 am Post subject:

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

You're pretty much responding with the same you did the last few pages. So I'll pick out the things I haven't responded to yet:

And I'm responding to what you have been saying for the last few pages.

So if my responses are similar, same goes for yours.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

Jacky wrote:

Depends on what pants you wear.

I'd like to see you walk around on the street with pants you can fit something bigger than 10" in it. Silly

Don't forget there's still the 701 and 901 which are smaller than 10.1".

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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It cost double that of the Eee PC 1000H.

And there's the 701, 901, 1000HA which is even cheaper than the 1000H.

You're plain ignoring the screenshot I posted...

Which?

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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You don't, even a plastic bag is enough.

I can also carry my laptop in a plastic bag, they're not limited to 1kg you know...

You said a backpack was needed for a netbook.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Prove that NVIDIA and ATI integrated solutions are better than Intel GMA with benchmarks and real-world performance.

I'm too tired to read the article.

If they really did a real-world experiment then I would say that the article is just outdated. In 2007 you got the Intel GMA X3100, in 2008 you got the 4500MHD.

Similarly goes to NVIDIA and ATI.

And if you were to place them in a notebook make sure they can save battery life since they are meant to be integrated.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Sure if you type slow, it's no problem.

I don't see why you need to type that fast on a netbook. It's not for you to use for your work to start with.

It's just like how you handle a phone equipped with a QWERTY keyboard. You don't type blazing fast. Similarly for the iPhone with a touchscreen.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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They are lowering it in fact.

They aren't doing that here.

You are out of luck, I see why you hate it then.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Whether or not it looks ugly depends on individuals.

Most of the Eee's look like the laptop-like things they give to kids with games on them.

Kids nowadays play PSPs.

I haven't seen what you have mentioned so I can't say anything, but they definitely don't look like a kid's toy.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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I stopped caring about non EU prices about a year ago cause the fact is that everybody expects us to adapt to them. Also keep in mind everything in the EU is considerably more expensive.

You got to care since you are now engaged in this discussion.

I'm non-EU, and I didn't expect you to adapt to non-EU prices. You were saying how it's so expensive in EU prices and when we mention it's cheaper in non-EU prices you just object to it.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Who says the Eee PC won't last?

Cheap plastic vs high quality plastic

Whether it's considered "cheap" or "high quality" depends on whether it can withstand the normal bumps and knocks in one's bag.

That goes by real-world experience, and we need one here.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Before the Eee PC 1000 they are less than 1kg.

Yes, and that's real post stamp size.

They still aren't, the 901 screen size makes no difference to the 1000.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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For those of us who are used to it it won't be a problem.

It's not cause you're used to something that it's good.

But if you think it's good you will get used to it.
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ClickFanatic wrote:

Your nonsense make my forum visits rather brief, Jacky. It's like:
"Hey look, a reply notification!"
*click* *click*
*reading garbage*
"Oh it was Jacky again..."
*close*

LP-SolidRaven
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Joined: 06 Jun 2004
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Location: Belgium

Posted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 8:00 am Post subject:

Jacky wrote:

Don't forget there's still the 701 and 901 which are smaller than 10.1".

In that case you're better of with a phone.

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Which?

Read, the damned pages and search for the [IMG] [/IMG] tags...

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You said a backpack was needed for a netbook.

Yes, if you wish to carry it on a healthy way.

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Well, I'm not sure if you realize it but they won't put the newest hardware in low budget laptops. Dual cores are starting to make their entrance to the low budget laptop market now, and guess from what year those came...

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I don't see why you need to type that fast on a netbook. It's not for you to use for your work to start with.

Then why are you using the argument you can use them perfectly for taking notes...

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It's just like how you handle a phone equipped with a QWERTY keyboard. You don't type blazing fast. Similarly for the iPhone with a touchscreen.

Actually you're quite mistaken on that one, but you can't really compare the way it's done. The phone keyboard requires small distances and only requires your thumbs so nothing gets in the way of each other (And I've owned more than one phone with a complete qwerty keyboard by now). On the other hand on a keyboard that is scaled down you will end up in trouble cause it was designed to type on with 10 fingers.

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You are out of luck, I see why you hate it then.

Kids nowadays play PSPs.

I haven't seen what you have mentioned so I can't say anything, but they definitely don't look like a kid's toy.

I'm talking about crap like this: http://www.hamleys.com/Colour_.....lt,pd.html

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Well, get used to it, that's what you guys have been doing all the time. Now it's your turn to suffer.

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Whether it's considered "cheap" or "high quality" depends on whether it can withstand the normal bumps and knocks in one's bag.

That goes by real-world experience, and we need one here.

Until you show me an Eee that has been thrown down the stairs and still works your argument is worthless. Cause that's the type of thing a Thinkpad for example survives.

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They still aren't, the 901 screen size makes no difference to the 1000.

Well, then they won't have a lower weight. Make up your mind...

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But if you think it's good you will get used to it.

And the only way to think good of this is if you follow hypes.
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:40 am Post subject:

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

Jacky wrote:

Don't forget there's still the 701 and 901 which are smaller than 10.1".

In that case you're better of with a phone.

They are still bigger than a phone, and do much more than it.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Which?

Read, the damned pages and search for the [IMG] [/IMG] tags...

I can't conclude anything from your Dell screenshot. Besides those prices don't even apply to me.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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You said a backpack was needed for a netbook.

Yes, if you wish to carry it on a healthy way.

You don't, a simple plastic bag will do. You aren't carrying a desktop replacement.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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I do realise that, Celeron Dual-Core only made its debut last year.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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I don't see why you need to type that fast on a netbook. It's not for you to use for your work to start with.

Then why are you using the argument you can use them perfectly for taking notes...

I didn't say that, it was someone else.

I didn't even mention bringing the netbook to school, why would I be saying that it can be used to make notes?

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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It's just like how you handle a phone equipped with a QWERTY keyboard. You don't type blazing fast. Similarly for the iPhone with a touchscreen.

If you pass me a phone with a QWERTY keyboard right now I would also have difficulties typing on it, because I have never used one before.

Similarly, if it's your first time typing on a netbook keyboard you will encounter difficulties. It takes some time to get used to it but it's possible.

I see people not even thinking when they use a phone's number pad to make SMS messages yet I have difficulties. It's about getting used to it.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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You are out of luck, I see why you hate it then.

Kids nowadays play PSPs.

I haven't seen what you have mentioned so I can't say anything, but they definitely don't look like a kid's toy.

I'm talking about crap like this: http://www.hamleys.com/Colour_.....lt,pd.html

I can say that even if the Eee PC doesn't look 100% better than that it can still score a 90%.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Well, get used to it, that's what you guys have been doing all the time. Now it's your turn to suffer.

We got used to it, that's why we said it's just pure bad luck.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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Whether it's considered "cheap" or "high quality" depends on whether it can withstand the normal bumps and knocks in one's bag.

That goes by real-world experience, and we need one here.

Until you show me an Eee that has been thrown down the stairs and still works your argument is worthless. Cause that's the type of thing a Thinkpad for example survives.

You said it was a Thinkpad already. There's a significant difference there.

Besides who would throw their Eee PC down their stairs? They just need to think about the usual bumps and knocks in a bag and design the Eee PC. If they were to think about throwing it down the stairs they might as well design a Toughbook.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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They still aren't, the 901 screen size makes no difference to the 1000.

Well, then they won't have a lower weight. Make up your mind...

I'm saying that you won't notice a difference when looking at both screens, even though one is smaller than the other.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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But if you think it's good you will get used to it.

And the only way to think good of this is if you follow hypes.

I don't follow trends and hypes, but I still like this.

This coming from a person who still enjoys carrying a dull backpack on the streets and to school while the latest trend is carrying a branded sling-bag or those backpacks made of leather.
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"Hey look, a reply notification!"
*click* *click*
*reading garbage*
"Oh it was Jacky again..."
*close*

LP-SolidRaven
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Posted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 5:19 pm Post subject:

Jacky wrote:

They are still bigger than a phone, and do much more than it.

Actually, quite a lot of phone/PDAs can do exactly the same.

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I can't conclude anything from your Dell screenshot. Besides those prices don't even apply to me.

That it's actually cheaper than a Eee 1000h. That's all that screenshot proves.

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You don't, a simple plastic bag will do. You aren't carrying a desktop replacement.

And as I said before, you can do the same with a regular laptop.

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I didn't say that, it was someone else.

I didn't even mention bringing the netbook to school, why would I be saying that it can be used to make notes?

Well, then why would you even run a text editor on it?

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actually, a mobile phone's keyboard wasn't designed to type with 10 fingers. The Eee's keyboard on the other hand is simply a down scaled version of a regular keyboard. If you size down a keyboard you need to take several things into mind. Especially how you can type. I'm not sure about you but the last time I used a netbook I had to type with the tips of my fingers instead of how I normally type. It puts more stress on your fingers that way.

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I say thinkpad cause I hate to refer to laptops as laptop since that also includes the crap HP and Acer make. So you'll always hear me say thinkpad or some dell model Silly

Still, a good laptop should be able to take a serious hit and still work.

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I'm saying that you won't notice a difference when looking at both screens, even though one is smaller than the other.

You will if you eyes aren't good. Tell me, why should people like me wear their glasses all the time simply cause somebody thought it was an awesome idea to use a post stamped screen?

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And in 10 years we'll be laughing at those people who are following all those lame trends cause they have trouble with their backs.
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Jacky
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Posted: Sun Feb 08, 2009 12:45 am Post subject:

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

Jacky wrote:

They are still bigger than a phone, and do much more than it.

Actually, quite a lot of phone/PDAs can do exactly the same.

Yes but the Eee PC is still a lot bigger than a phone, and that means it's easier to use it.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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I can't conclude anything from your Dell screenshot. Besides those prices don't even apply to me.

That it's actually cheaper than a Eee 1000h. That's all that screenshot proves.

Like I already said it may be just EU prices so you can only blame your luck.

It's like how we pay so much more for a notebook compared to people in the US who pays like half of the prices here.

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You don't, a simple plastic bag will do. You aren't carrying a desktop replacement.

And as I said before, you can do the same with a regular laptop.

You can't do it with a desktop replacement, if you want it "healthy".

And a regular laptop is more heavier, that's why I mention that the Eee PC is suitable for its lighter weight.

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I didn't say that, it was someone else.

I didn't even mention bringing the netbook to school, why would I be saying that it can be used to make notes?

Well, then why would you even run a text editor on it?

I still didn't mention it.

If you can get used to the keyboard you can still type pretty fast. Yes not as fast as when you are on a desktop or laptop keyboard but you got to sacrifice a little to get that smaller form-factor and the lighter weight.

Of course whether it's worth the sacrifice depends on individuals. What I can see is that you definitely won't think it's worth it, so each to their own.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

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It really depends on individuals. Some people find the awkward position of the right Shift key and their solution is just to get a program and re-map the keyboard.

If it just can't fit you then I got nothing to say. I can never SMS as fast as my friends who always have their phone with them, and I can only say that I'm used to a keyboard rather than a keypad.

That's quite true. I type faster on a keyboard than my friends. See what I mean by getting used to it?

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I'm saying that you won't notice a difference when looking at both screens, even though one is smaller than the other.

You will if you eyes aren't good. Tell me, why should people like me wear their glasses all the time simply cause somebody thought it was an awesome idea to use a post stamped screen?

If you eyes aren't good then you just got to wear glasses.

They can't just design a big screen just for those short-sighted people who can't be bothered to wear glasses.

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And in 10 years we'll be laughing at those people who are following all those lame trends cause they have trouble with their backs.

Well sometimes I do laugh at those people who follow trends. It's just stupid to follow others and have no real benefits.

But it's different in the case of the netbook. If the netbook is just a piece of junk which just happens to be trendy I definitely won't even consider buying it. But if I think it serves me a purpose then I will consider.

By the way I hardly see anyone carrying netbooks in the streets, I don't consider the netbook as a trend here.
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ClickFanatic wrote:

Your nonsense make my forum visits rather brief, Jacky. It's like:
"Hey look, a reply notification!"
*click* *click*
*reading garbage*
"Oh it was Jacky again..."
*close*

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