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coralvalley Lifeless Person

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Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2007 12:56 pm Post subject: Beowulf |
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Did anyone else see this movie yet? I went to see it on Saturday and I have to admit that while it had a lot to offer from a visual standpoint, I was really, really disappointed with the storyline. I just read a few minutes ago that it was an adaptation from some kind of old poem or something, but to me I felt like I was in my Greek Mythology class watching something that was to serve as some kind of lesson a long time ago. I guess going in I was not really sure what to expect from the film because the movie previews did not give much away about it other than it appeared to be visually stunning to say the least.
That being said my sister and I went to see it on Saturday night at an IMAX theater to get the whole IMAX 3-D experience. It was a sold out showing with people of all ages in the audience and clearly everyone was very enthusiastic about seeing it. Seeing something in IMAX is always a lot of fun because you get a whole new perspective on it being true to life with it standing out and this film from a visual aspect will not disappoint. It really had a lot of innovative, new things in it, and if someone was going to see it I would fully recommend seeing it in IMAX. Visually the film has a lot to offer for those who enjoy action and interesting color and something different. Plot wise however the movie fell flat to me.
Don't get me wrong I like watching films about adventurers, heroes and even flawed ones at that and I have seen plenty of movies that fit into the battle genre with Greek or Roman heroes that have been really, really well done even if the plot was weak, but this one was terrible in my opinion. Not only did you feel like one moment you blinked and you missed half of the movie, but the first half had excessive nudity to the point that it was just plain ridiculous. Sure, the movie makers were very crafty about keeping certain parts covered enough to get a PG13 rating and I give them credit for that, but I was truly amazed at how much of it there truly was in the film. The first half of the movie seemed to take on a sexual undertone in many places and while I realize it was a PG13 film, there were a lot of people who brought young children into the movie, which surprised me, but still. There was also excessive violence and a lot of blood spilling, which again is to be expected in that kind of movie and in 3D it looks really cool in some places to watch those kind of sequences, but even that was not enough for me to get over the horrible plot line of the film. In a lot of ways it felt a bit soap opera style to me with the traditional Greek flavor that has been thrown into other stories like Medea to name one.
I am sure a lot of people will see it because as I said it was sold out when we went and it sounds like it was still going over quite well at the box office, so I might be in the minority in not really liking the film. Visually I give it a lot of credit, but I am one of those people who enjoy a good plot as well. I suppose that is a blessing and a curse. I am sure a lot loved it, but in retrospect I wish I would have waited until it was on DVD or television and spent the money elsewhere. |
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martinz Grandmaster Poster

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 3:28 am Post subject: |
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| I have not seen the movie yet, but alot of my friends told me its nice and I should go watch it. What about the rest of the guys here think huh? |
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LP-Harvey Forum Moderator
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: |
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Having read and recited the poem in high school, in the original old English, I can tell you it is NOTHING like the poem.
And that's probably a good thing. Much like the movie 300 was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING like the battle of THermopoli.
I was able to see the movie at a 3D IMax Theater and it was a great experience. The movie itself was okay, wasn't all that great. |
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mellymoo Lifeless Person

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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:23 am Post subject: |
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| i've not seen this yet - and don't plan to go to a cinema to watch it, based on reviews i've heard on tv and radio. Not what it's been hyped up to be, apparently! I'll wait for the DVD! |
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ruyss Proud 2 B lifeless

Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 2593 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:54 am Post subject: |
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The movie isn't going to be released until the 21st of November in Belgium, which is tomorrow
Actually I can't wait to see the movie, it looks absolutely incredible in the trailers. And even after you're bad review I still have high expectations. I don't expect too much of a storyline in the movie, I just want some cool action and special effects If they succeeded in making a cool movie I'm happy, in my opinion you don't always need a deep storyline to make a good movie. _________________ .// Proud to be Lifeless for more then 4 years \\. |
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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 12:38 pm Post subject: |
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The movie looks alright, but I will wait until DVD to see it. It seems like a special effects movie, with a poor plot to me. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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LP-Harvey Forum Moderator
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Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| Rob1981 wrote: | | The movie looks alright, but I will wait until DVD to see it. |
Then you will be poorly disappointed.
It's a 3D IMax movie. Seeing it in 33mm will probably be dull and boring. |
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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Fri Nov 23, 2007 2:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It's a 3D IMax movie. Seeing it in 33mm will probably be dull and boring. |
I don't care about seeing it in Imax or not. I'm not obsessed with seeing something in wide screen and/or at the theaters because it apparently "looks better" compared to just a television screen. It's the same movie no matter what. Sound and picture differences aren't a big deal. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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pharmer4 Metallica Fanatic

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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 8:53 pm Post subject: |
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I think going to see this movie while knowing nothing about what it is about will definately make it less entertaining.
You should really know the history of these things before going along.
Also, 300 is not based on the battle of themophylae, it is based ont he graphic novel 300, which is based around the battle of themophylae, which, although it has had changes for dramatic effect, comes very close to the actual history of the battle. _________________ For Metal and Rock interviews and reviews, go to www.heavymetalnation.com - You can Contribute too if you want!
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LP-Harvey Forum Moderator
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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 9:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Rob1981 wrote: | | Quote: | | It's a 3D IMax movie. Seeing it in 33mm will probably be dull and boring. |
I don't care about seeing it in Imax or not. I'm not obsessed with seeing something in wide screen and/or at the theaters because it apparently "looks better" compared to just a television screen. It's the same movie no matter what. Sound and picture differences aren't a big deal. |
So, do you believe watching an interactive roller coaster on TV or a video game is the same as riding a roller coaster in real life?
This movie is an "experience" movie. If you judge it simply as a piece of cinema, it is an AWFUL movie. I wouldn't waste my money purchasing or renting the DVD. |
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Xtreme Lifeless Person

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Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 11:06 pm Post subject: |
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A movie that isn't worth the money on DVD or other consumer medium has issues. I can see where this might be acceptable if the movie was marketed as being intended for the IMAX, but I honestly didn't even know it would be there until reading it in this thread.
That isn't to say that I don't appreciate excellence of sound and picture reproduction. Quite the contrary. I just think that a movie shouldn't go from gold to garbage just because it is viewed on a nice screen at home instead of an IMAX screen.
The CG work doesn't look THAT great to me. Nor does the plot - it seems to totally destroy any glimpse of historical / mythological "accuracy" a movie called "Beowulf" could have had. I would say that knowing anything about the historical background might actually cheapen or cut down on ones experience for this particular movie.
I have not seen it, nor do I intend to as of now. |
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ruyss Proud 2 B lifeless

Joined: 08 Jul 2004 Posts: 2593 Location: Belgium
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 11:59 am Post subject: |
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I saw the movie today and I'm a bit disappointed in it, I had high expectations but the movie wasn't able to be as good as I hoped it would be. Don't get me wrong, I certainly don't think that this movie is bad, it definitely has it's good things but it's just not as good as I expected/hoped it to be.
The movie wasn't great or bad, just another movie that doesn't have anything special to it, except for the 3D. About the 3D: anyone here has agrees with me that Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children looks way better than Beowulf? _________________ .// Proud to be Lifeless for more then 4 years \\. |
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LP-Harvey Forum Moderator
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Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject: |
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| ruyss wrote: | | About the 3D: anyone here has agrees with me that Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children looks way better than Beowulf? |
Yeah, I agree. But to be fair, they are completely different styles of animation.
Beowulf utilized stop motion while FF utilized fluid models. Beowulf is a little bit ahead of its time with stop motion integrated into animation, so upcoming movies utilizing the same technology should be much better (like James Cameron's Avatar).
But Beowulf does have one edge in the animation over FF. No dead eyes. The whole "dead eye effect" was non-existent in Beowulf, and was really the only complaint in FF. It may be a silly little thing to be picky about, but eyes have a tremendous effect in conveying facial emotion, which is key in just about any movie or television show. |
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ruyss Proud 2 B lifeless

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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:10 pm Post subject: |
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| LP-Harvey wrote: | | ruyss wrote: | | About the 3D: anyone here has agrees with me that Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children looks way better than Beowulf? |
Yeah, I agree. But to be fair, they are completely different styles of animation.
Beowulf utilized stop motion while FF utilized fluid models. Beowulf is a little bit ahead of its time with stop motion integrated into animation, so upcoming movies utilizing the same technology should be much better (like James Cameron's Avatar).
But Beowulf does have one edge in the animation over FF. No dead eyes. The whole "dead eye effect" was non-existent in Beowulf, and was really the only complaint in FF. It may be a silly little thing to be picky about, but eyes have a tremendous effect in conveying facial emotion, which is key in just about any movie or television show. |
To be honest I didn't notice the dead eye effect in FF, I'll pay attention to their eyes next time I see Advent Children.
By the way, you don't happen to have a link to a trailer of Avatar? Because I can't seem to find any. I found that the movie is planned for 2009 so I guess it's too soon for trailers?? _________________ .// Proud to be Lifeless for more then 4 years \\. |
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LP-Harvey Forum Moderator
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Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:11 pm Post subject: |
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| ruyss wrote: | | By the way, you don't happen to have a link to a trailer of Avatar? Because I can't seem to find any. I found that the movie is planned for 2009 so I guess it's too soon for trailers?? |
'09? I haven't kept up with it in a while, last I heard it was supposed to be a Thanksgiving 2008 movie. Oh well.
But my point remains, the next generation of stop-motion based animation looks to be great. If Beowulf is the starting point, that is one heck of a starting point. The problem with fluid models is that "realistic motion" is really hard and time consuming to emulate, whereas stop-motion can be done quickly and at the same quality (if not better) than fluid models.
Stylistically, it still has a way to go (FF is far superior Beowulf style-wise), but this type of animation is still in its infancy.
I'll look around for other trailers. I know for a fact that the studios are rushing to put out "three more" stop motion movies. One is supposedly in post-production, and I thought Avatar was the one. I guess I was wrong. |
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