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the windows 7 release candidate is now available for public download.
You can get both the 32 and 64bits versions.
The Beta Keys you got for the beta will still work, and the RC should be valid til 3/1/2010
I've been using the RC for a couple weeks now and its flawless, and i love it.
http://www.microsoft.com/windo.....nload.aspx
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What is new in Windows 7 in comparison to Vista?
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Just out of curiosity, how did you get the RC that soon?
I've been on build 7057 and only upgraded to the RC the day after it was leaked to torrents which was only a few days ago (after it was released to MSDN/Technet subscribers). EDIT: time flew, it has been almost a week, still I'd double check if I were you to make sure it's the RC, is your build number 7100 (you can check by running "winver").
Anyway, this is a great opportunity, I've also been using the beta for awhile and now the RC and Windows 7 puts XP and as much as I hate to say it, also Linux, to shame. The fact that the RC doesn't expire until mid 2010 some time is the icing on the cake however I wouldn't raise a fuss if this weren't the case as Microsoft have finally made an OS I don't feel taxed paying for.
Scott, everything wrong about Vista has been fixed and it has reaffirmed my belief that Vista was released solely to get the new kernel out so developers make software that works on the NT6 kernel and thereby work on Windows 7 too in most cases. The shell, explorer, window management, IE8 (though not 7 exclusive), action centre, network management, resource monitor, reliability history, proper sync manager, XP mode, and much more is what's new, and that is just what I could think of the top of my head. There are also hundreds of "little things" that help you out, things such as an unfinished installer prompt suggesting compatibility modes, customisable status bar icons, moving taskbar tasks around, Start+[shift]+arrow keys, etc.
It's also more polished and reliable and all hardware was supported out of the box and drivers installed including up to date NVidia drivers with the mere exception of touchpad scrolling support and bluetooth.
Problems I've had:
- WordPad crashes on exit, just an inconvenience though and easily solved by using an alternative text editor which one should do anyway
- WMP12 doesn't have the taskbar mode (well it does sort of but it's not as efficient) so you can either downgrade to WMP11 or use iTunes or something else
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Does it let you partition your drive when you are installing it? I would like to try it but I have Vista and Kubuntu at the moment, and I wouldn't mind removing Vista but keeping Kubuntu.
Edit: Nevermind, I will just try it using Virtual Box but I would still appreciate if someone can answer the above question.
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Well the main reason I really hate windows is the terrible networking. Windows 7 is still a disaster in terms of networking actually. Still no things like a bonding driver, and really 54mbps wireless is just way too slow...
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| Scott wrote: | Does it let you partition your drive when you are installing it? I would like to try it but I have Vista and Kubuntu at the moment, and I wouldn't mind removing Vista but keeping Kubuntu.
Edit: Nevermind, I will just try it using Virtual Box but I would still appreciate if someone can answer the above question. |
You could just partition the disk in kubuntu and then install on a new partition I would assume.
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i suggest for everyone to install via flash drive. Took me around 5-8 minutes to do a fresh install that way.
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| krt wrote: | Just out of curiosity, how did you get the RC that soon?
I've been on build 7057 and only upgraded to the RC the day after it was leaked to torrents which was only a few days ago (after it was released to MSDN/Technet subscribers). EDIT: time flew, it has been almost a week, still I'd double check if I were you to make sure it's the RC, is your build number 7100 (you can check by running "winver").
Anyway, this is a great opportunity, I've also been using the beta for awhile and now the RC and Windows 7 puts XP and as much as I hate to say it, also Linux, to shame. The fact that the RC doesn't expire until mid 2010 some time is the icing on the cake however I wouldn't raise a fuss if this weren't the case as Microsoft have finally made an OS I don't feel taxed paying for.
Scott, everything wrong about Vista has been fixed and it has reaffirmed my belief that Vista was released solely to get the new kernel out so developers make software that works on the NT6 kernel and thereby work on Windows 7 too in most cases. The shell, explorer, window management, IE8 (though not 7 exclusive), action centre, network management, resource monitor, reliability history, proper sync manager, XP mode, and much more is what's new, and that is just what I could think of the top of my head. There are also hundreds of "little things" that help you out, things such as an unfinished installer prompt suggesting compatibility modes, customisable status bar icons, moving taskbar tasks around, Start+[shift]+arrow keys, etc.
It's also more polished and reliable and all hardware was supported out of the box and drivers installed including up to date NVidia drivers with the mere exception of touchpad scrolling support and bluetooth.
Problems I've had:
- WordPad crashes on exit, just an inconvenience though and easily solved by using an alternative text editor which one should do anyway
- WMP12 doesn't have the taskbar mode (well it does sort of but it's not as efficient) so you can either downgrade to WMP11 or use iTunes or something else |
I'm really tempted to try out Windows 7 but just don't have the time. I still have the first beta files.
Looking from what you said I may as well try it out on a free weekend.
What's the specs of the computer you are running Windows 7 on? Do share if you can get Windows 7 to run on a computer with lower specs than the one specified by Microsoft.
It's also good to know that bi-hourly shutdowns will start for the release candidate starting March 1, 2010, according to Wikipedia.
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I don't have it installed as a normal operating system but I have it installed with VirtualBox (which is great by the way). I first gave it 1GB of RAM and it runs much better than Vista did with the same specs, so this version seems much leaner and optimized. I also tried 512MB (recommended is 1GB) and there was only a slight difference. Now of course it depends on what programs you are running (e.g. if you were to run Photoshop that would be a different story) but I just ran what I could find with a fresh install.
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You can also run windows xp with 128mb of ram...
until you start another application 
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I realize it is silly to say it is good to run with just a few applications open on 512MB of RAM but compared to Vista which was sluggish with 1GB of RAM just from opening a browser and/or a folder, it is a big improvement.
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Actually the applications don't really matter here, we just need to know that it at least runs on 512MB of RAM.
I'm running Windows XP on 256MB of RAM and it's runs (I can even play GunZ and I am using an IGP, which draws from the system RAM), that's the thing, but can it run heavy applications such as the latest CAD software? I doubt so, and even if it could it would be sluggish.
Anyone has tried even lesser? 384MB?
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Jacky:
I'm running it on a Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM and a 8600M GT graphics card so it flies.
I also have it installed on a desktop with an AMD Athlon X2, and a weak 1 GB RAM, and a weaker 6600GT graphics card. It is still very responsive and snappy but obviously heavy multi tasking doesn't go well, but it didn't on XP either.
I remember seeing something about partitioning in the Windows installer and I might give it a try next time around however when I installed it, it was back when I was much more skeptical of anything Windows so I just used a GPartEd live CD to ready the partitions.
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Fair call about the networking, though it has improved with things such as Home/Work/Public network modes, although, yes, there are still a fair amount of limitations. I use 4 different networks (mobile broadband, home wired/wireless, work on a domain, uni with proxy) and I can seamlessly move around and be connected, which is better than XP, though simple things such as setting up profiles for each network, e.g. use this proxy and this static IP config on this network, and use another on another network, are still on the wishlist.
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| krt wrote: | Jacky:
I'm running it on a Core 2 Duo with 4GB RAM and a 8600M GT graphics card so it flies.
I also have it installed on a desktop with an AMD Athlon X2, and a weak 1 GB RAM, and a weaker 6600GT graphics card. It is still very responsive and snappy but obviously heavy multi tasking doesn't go well, but it didn't on XP either.
I remember seeing something about partitioning in the Windows installer and I might give it a try next time around however when I installed it, it was back when I was much more skeptical of anything Windows so I just used a GPartEd live CD to ready the partitions.
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Fair call about the networking, though it has improved with things such as Home/Work/Public network modes, although, yes, there are still a fair amount of limitations. I use 4 different networks (mobile broadband, home wired/wireless, work on a domain, uni with proxy) and I can seamlessly move around and be connected, which is better than XP, though simple things such as setting up profiles for each network, e.g. use this proxy and this static IP config on this network, and use another on another network, are still on the wishlist. |
Same. I use GParted for my partitioning needs. It does the job 100 times more efficient than Windows (or particularly Vista) Disk Management.
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Windows was never known for great disk management. Gparted is software designed specifically for partitioning disks, in theory it should be better suited for the task.
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