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pharmer4
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ok. Bear in mind I don't want to change, but given the difficulties you have been having, can you answer me two questions:
1) If LP died all together, would my domain just disappear?
2) would you recommend me getting a new domain or are you confident in the future of LP.
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Jacky
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| pharmer4 wrote: | ok. Bear in mind I don't want to change, but given the difficulties you have been having, can you answer me two questions:
1) If LP died all together, would my domain just disappear?
2) would you recommend me getting a new domain or are you confident in the future of LP. |
LifelessPeople is not the creator of the .***.ru domains. They were previously managed by RIPN, who acts as a registrar.
If RIPN decides to take down the .***.ru domains, your domain will similarly be gone even if LifelessPeople does not go down.
If you are serious in your website, get a top-level domain. If you have a credit card, you can choose to register your domain with international registrars like NameCheap and GoDaddy.
If you don't have one, then you can always find a local registrar. I don't have one, but luckily I found a local registrar who allows me to pay through other methods.
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marinaroz
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I think maybe we should open an LJ community or some emergency site site outside of L2P servers. So the next time something like this happens, people will have a place to turn to for updates, and not have to panic.
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Scar
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| marinaroz wrote: | | I think maybe we should open an LJ community or some emergency site site outside of L2P servers. So the next time something like this happens, people will have a place to turn to for updates, and not have to panic. |
Yeah that'd be a nice idea, but it really doesn't ever happen that often. This was the first time in forever.
I think what might have taken it so long to get back on is because Trel is away doing other things now and might not even of noticed it was off. Or else he would have possibly got it resolved as quickly as he did back in the day when things were better.
Most of us here have instant messengers. i know i talk to alot of people on Live Messenger, so we could all get together on there in a big chat room and talk about stuff, ha. I know Trel has one too, since he had me contact him on it once, but he probably doesn't wanna be bothered that way.
Again that won't do any good unless Trel would be around to tell us whats up. but we could still bicker amongst ourselves 
I still love LLP alot, and i think the only thing keeping me around anymore really is the hope that the site/hosting/ and community will be back someday if not bigger. Plus i still do think the hosting is the best. I just wish whatever it is that's causing everything to go down hill would stop right now.
Such if Trel has some other hosting project where its paid, then please let us know so we can order it or something so then we'd feel a bit more secure in knowing our hosting will still be here or something like that.
i seriously don't want to ever have to find another host again. LLP is the best.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 7:46 pm Post subject: |
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| marinaroz wrote: | | I think maybe we should open an LJ community or some emergency site site outside of L2P servers. So the next time something like this happens, people will have a place to turn to for updates, and not have to panic. |
irc.freenode.com - channel #llp
Unfortunately, noone was there when I logged on trying to find out what was going on. Actually, Ithilion (sp?) was there but there was no response.
| pharmer4 wrote: | ok. Bear in mind I don't want to change, but given the difficulties you have been having, can you answer me two questions:
1) If LP died all together, would my domain just disappear?
2) would you recommend me getting a new domain or are you confident in the future of LP. |
At the price of domain names, I'd get one anyways. "RU" is the country code for Russia so that's another reason (nothing against Russia by the way, the same would apply to any country other than the one you are in). Especially so in this case where the domain is tied to one host (no redundancy) and goes down along with the host if that should ever happen.
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PS. Thanks Trel for the update, that's all I need to keep happy with the host  |
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LP-Trel
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| pharmer4 wrote: | ok. Bear in mind I don't want to change, but given the difficulties you have been having, can you answer me two questions:
1) If LP died all together, would my domain just disappear?
2) would you recommend me getting a new domain or are you confident in the future of LP. |
1) The domain name you are using would cease to function because the DNS servers would stop responding. You would not be able to retain the domain for reasons mentioned before. The *.com.ru, *.net.ru, or *.org.ru domains should be considered subdomains for the purposes of portability. They will only work here and are only allowed for use here.
2) There has never been a guarantee that the service will continue and there never will be. L2P will continue to exist as long as I would like it to exist, but it is still possible that I could announce the closure at any time in the future. You will need to make your own decision about a domain name.
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Scar
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| Posted: Wed Apr 16, 2008 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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2) There has never been a guarantee that the service will continue and there never will be. L2P will continue to exist as long as I would like it to exist, but it is still possible that I could announce the closure at any time in the future. You will need to make your own decision about a domain name. |
Would you like for it to exist for a long while longer?  
You would give us at least a weeks notice right? So we could make backups?
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LP-Trel
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| Scar wrote: | | LP-Trel wrote: |
2) There has never been a guarantee that the service will continue and there never will be. L2P will continue to exist as long as I would like it to exist, but it is still possible that I could announce the closure at any time in the future. You will need to make your own decision about a domain name. |
Would you like for it to exist for a long while longer?
You would give us at least a weeks notice right? So we could make backups? |
I would always try to provide enough notice to allow enough time for backups and a transition to another provider, but that is on a best effort basis only.
I just wanted to emphasize that it is important to remember that L2P isn't permanent and might close some day. I also want to emphasize that I have no plans to close L2P either. We've been here for many years and I hope we're here for many years to come.
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Scar
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| LP-Trel wrote: | | Scar wrote: | | LP-Trel wrote: |
2) There has never been a guarantee that the service will continue and there never will be. L2P will continue to exist as long as I would like it to exist, but it is still possible that I could announce the closure at any time in the future. You will need to make your own decision about a domain name. |
Would you like for it to exist for a long while longer?
You would give us at least a weeks notice right? So we could make backups? |
I would always try to provide enough notice to allow enough time for backups and a transition to another provider, but that is on a best effort basis only.
I just wanted to emphasize that it is important to remember that L2P isn't permanent and might close some day. I also want to emphasize that I have no plans to close L2P either. We've been here for many years and I hope we're here for many years to come. |
Yes i know what you meant. You are a very nice good guy, and i've always thought so and im sure that everyone here thinks so also.
Things around here have just been so odd in the past year here, and things seem unstable to us since we're from a far without much contact of whats going on on the inside so i hope you understand why some may be weary in insecure about how llp is really doing.
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LifelessPeople is already going in its 7th year and I trust it enough that it will not go like how an egg can be broken easily.
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LP-Trel
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| Scar wrote: | | LP-Trel wrote: | | Scar wrote: | | LP-Trel wrote: |
2) There has never been a guarantee that the service will continue and there never will be. L2P will continue to exist as long as I would like it to exist, but it is still possible that I could announce the closure at any time in the future. You will need to make your own decision about a domain name. |
Would you like for it to exist for a long while longer?
You would give us at least a weeks notice right? So we could make backups? |
I would always try to provide enough notice to allow enough time for backups and a transition to another provider, but that is on a best effort basis only.
I just wanted to emphasize that it is important to remember that L2P isn't permanent and might close some day. I also want to emphasize that I have no plans to close L2P either. We've been here for many years and I hope we're here for many years to come. |
Yes i know what you meant. You are a very nice good guy, and i've always thought so and im sure that everyone here thinks so also.
Things around here have just been so odd in the past year here, and things seem unstable to us since we're from a far without much contact of whats going on on the inside so i hope you understand why some may be weary in insecure about how llp is really doing. |
I've setup an official L2P Twitter page here:
https://twitter.com/L2P
That will help keep everyone up to date on the minor events that happen here and there.
Note: The announcements forum will still be used for all major updates, but the Twitter page will be updated with small amounts of incremental information.
I figure it is about time we got some type of Web 2.0 around here. (The first version was better!)
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Scar
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| LP-Trel wrote: | | Scar wrote: | | LP-Trel wrote: | | Scar wrote: | | LP-Trel wrote: |
2) There has never been a guarantee that the service will continue and there never will be. L2P will continue to exist as long as I would like it to exist, but it is still possible that I could announce the closure at any time in the future. You will need to make your own decision about a domain name. |
Would you like for it to exist for a long while longer?
You would give us at least a weeks notice right? So we could make backups? |
I would always try to provide enough notice to allow enough time for backups and a transition to another provider, but that is on a best effort basis only.
I just wanted to emphasize that it is important to remember that L2P isn't permanent and might close some day. I also want to emphasize that I have no plans to close L2P either. We've been here for many years and I hope we're here for many years to come. |
Yes i know what you meant. You are a very nice good guy, and i've always thought so and im sure that everyone here thinks so also.
Things around here have just been so odd in the past year here, and things seem unstable to us since we're from a far without much contact of whats going on on the inside so i hope you understand why some may be weary in insecure about how llp is really doing. |
I've setup an official L2P Twitter page here:
https://twitter.com/L2P
That will help keep everyone up to date on the minor events that happen here and there.
Note: The announcements forum will still be used for all major updates, but the Twitter page will be updated with small amounts of incremental information.
I figure it is about time we got some type of Web 2.0 around here. (The first version was better!) |
That's a really good idea! i signed up there and i'm now a follower
thanks
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| Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:52 am Post subject: |
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| LP-Trel wrote: | I've setup an official L2P Twitter page here:
https://twitter.com/L2P
That will help keep everyone up to date on the minor events that happen here and there.
Note: The announcements forum will still be used for all major updates, but the Twitter page will be updated with small amounts of incremental information.
I figure it is about time we got some type of Web 2.0 around here. (The first version was better!) |
That could be really useful. I've bookmarked the page so I'll check back often. Thanks!
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linuxdoctor
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I'm glad it runs under Linux. If it was using some M$ product I'd have to boycott it.
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| Scar wrote: | Same here. It kinda scared me to be honest because for a while I thought that Trel actually just closed down the sites as some of us have been thinking was going to happen for a while now. The server has never been down for that long that i can remember.
I wish Trel and other higher up people could be around more often anymore to help assure us that things are okay. |
Exactly. All my important and new sites are hosted at a commercial hosting company, so I haven't actually even noticed it was down so long.
However, the reason I've decided to do that was because L2P started having serious problems. New members are not accepted, a lot of old members have disappeared, support tickets are not answered, points are not deducted on time. More and more downtime actually. And not a word about it from Trel. I just want to know what is happening.
It's sad. A few years ago when I was a poor teenager I needed a free host. And L2P proved to be great, even better than a lot of commercial hosts. My hosting request was accepted within 2 days or so. One time I needed support and my support ticket was taken care of within like 4 days. It was the best host I've ever had. (Back in those days it was even better than the paid host my important websites are now hosted)
Next to that, the community was great, lot's of interesting topics, lot's of people online so people would post answers really fast. Nowadays I just have really big problems earning enough points, just because the community died. Like I just said, it seems that all the important people have disappeared and there's a lack of new members.
It seems that L2P is getting worse each day. And that's really sad. The worst thing is that we're all kept in the dark about what's happening.
I'd be happy to stick trough hard times, but I just want to know what's going on and when it will be solved. I'm really happy LP-Trel has set up that twitter page, and I really hope he'll also write some longer forum posts to keep us up to date.
I really do hope there will be better times, but the current state of L2P worries me.
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