Eve's Children: A question of how it could be

[Necromis]

Ok, if from everything I have read is true, then the creation could not be. If Eve only had sons and there was only one woman, Eve, ever created. Then how could we have come from Eve? After all she never had any daughters, there were no other women, and only the men and Eve. Therefore, no species propegation. Can anyone find me an answer to debunk this with proof?

[Xtreme]

How many times must I put forth the FACT that if you read the Bible as a story book - that is, in a completely literal or historical sense - then you should probably be fed up after the very first book. Or before that.

But, as I've also said before, what good would a simple story book be to our eternal salvation? Even the most literal works of [purely] human non-fiction have more-than-literal implications and meanings; why, then, would the word of God be limited to a literal interpretation?

Some literalists might say, in response to your inquiry, that the Bible never said that Eve was the only woman God created. Not that I support this claim, but it's out there.

This thread seems like its going to be strikingly similar to another recent one, though...

[Artakserksis]

Well, i guess one of the sons made a kid with Eve...that's the only answer I can think.

[Necromis]

Well I notice I really have not gotten an answer to my question. I understand that the Bible is not a *story*. However, when it lists facts within it. Such as Eve only gave birth to sons and God only created Eve for Adam. It seems to me that there are some big flaws. I understand it was only written by man. However, when the Bible is listing examples of fact, and telling you what was. I would expect some acuracy. After all it is acurate when it talks about Jesus's death and the events that lead up to it. Why then would it not acurately depict the creation of the whole of man kind? I would expect that to be acurate as well.

So rather than no answer could I get an answer of where did this other woman, if at all, come from?

[wayforyourpride]

Adam and Eve lived for hundreds of years and the Bible pretty much only focused on their first two sons (Cain and Abel) since it was the first occurance of murder on Earth. With that said, it isn't hard to believe that within those hundreds of years, Eve gave birth to more children and it wouldn't surprise me if one of those children were female (most likely more than one...they were put in charge of populating the Earth afterall).

Take a look at chapter 5 of Genesis which goes through all the begats that most people skip.

[drath]

Everything we know about genetics and biology proves that this story is not true, so why are you trying to understand it or gain proof? It's not to be taken literally. Well... maybe 2000 years ago it sounded plausible, but now it's just a fairy tale.
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[Kovacs]

Jesus and the Bible use a lot of parables, you know... That means that some stories are just symbolic in order to convey meaning, which is most likely the case for Adam and Eve.
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[Necromis]

So basically the truth that can be gathered from the Bible is that it is a lie. After all in one line they say she only had sons and in other's Adam's son's gave birth to daughters. I guess the truth is a lie.

[Xtreme]

Oi. Then you claim that all metaphors and symbols are "lies?" According to your view - as stated here - any metaphorical writing would be a lie.

Something is a "lie" if it intends to deceive, not if it simply isn't technically or historically accurate in every sense or possible interpretation. Art - literature, in particular - may not adhere to technical or historical accuracy at all times, but this metaphorical style may be the best one for relating the whole Truth.

[wellingtonboots]

Metaphorically the whole creation story does actually follow the evolution of spieces quite accurately though it was written in about 1800BC. If you don't take Eve as literally one woman, the Adam and Eve story simply says that in the beginning when homo sapiens first appeared there were very few of them. In fact Daughters of Eve book has scientifically proven that everyone of European decent shares a common ancestor and are decended from one of the seven daughters of the orginal woman who colonised Europe.

Of course the homo sapiens that came to Europe did not just come in one group, there were many waves of migration but they intermarriaged and so they can still trace back our ancestory to the oldest common ancestor.

Every person in the world also shares a similar oldest common ancestor but that ancestor is probably more distant than the "eve" I've been talking about but there is definitely a common female ancestor there as scientist have identified several markers on the mitochonria DNA that occurs in every race. So perhaps if we ever get round to calculating when this ancestor lived we can put a date on the real Eve.
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[Grimoire]

How about we keep on going.
5 million years ago, we and chimpanzees branched off from a common ancestor. Ok, she didn't have a name, since her larynx, tongue and brain weren't sufficiently developed to form words, but she's your ancestor just the same, just as ultimately, a bacterium is your ancestor.
No, I don't think religious leaders would want to go back that far.
What the writer/writers of the biblical creation story did, was copy the story from someone else, who copied it from someone else, who simply invented it, much as any fantasy author invents a world for their book.
Why anyone pays the slightest modicum of attention to it, as anything other than a rather lazy and unoriginal work of fiction, I have no idea.
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[VrishiMalhotra]

Well frankly, the whole idea of coming from one woman is a little absurd and i never really believed in that. I mean there could have been an adam and an eve who did produce the first race of mankind but i am sure there were other contributors in this or else how would you explain different races and colour of the skin.
If we for one moment do believe that there were was only one couple, there cannot be a direct decsendant of eve then!

[slsc]

If you want to read the creation story literally, Necromis, maybe you should actually read it. You will notice that it never says Eve only had sons. Genesis 4 starts off, "And Adam and Eve knew each other and she gave birth to Cain." Notice, however, that it never says, "Eve gave birth to her first child and named him Cain." The assumption that this would be Eve's first child, then, is based on your lack of close reading. So if you want to take the story literally, there's the obvious answer.
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[pharmer4]

I used to ask this question when i was a kid, thinking i was a smart arse.

The answer I always got (which makes me think that catholic nuns and priests are taught this at seminary school etc) is that while the bible says that adam and eve were the first people that God created, they were not necessarily the ONLY people god created.

As stated above, especially with the old testament, the bible is not necessarily a literal re-telling of history. Perhaps god populated the earth a bit when he kicked them out of the garden of eden?

or perhaps, if you think like me, it is all a fiction, invented by people to keep their small minds going insane because they could not explain the simplest natural phenomenon; which was then utilised by later generations to control the masses.
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