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SE13
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Fireworks Reply with quote

This is possibly one maybe aimed at people from The United Kingdom, as we head toward Guy Fawkes Night, or Bonfire Night as it is often known

It's that time of the year again. Sleep is a battle because there are people outside throwing fireworks around. Other people are having practice parties, setting their fireworks off to see the impact. There are countless children and adults injured by stray fireworks.

Is it time to have a complete ban on the sale of fireworks to the general public, and have displays organised by professionals only?

Each and every year, there are still a mindless few who seem hellbent of injuring either themselves or others with these ever more powerful fireworks. Tighter controls would be a good idea, but already it is an 18 age limit. Something worthy of a mention is the sheer amount of shops selling the things. Just locally, I can think of half a dozen shops selling them, all within a five minute walk of the house, and we aren't exactly blessed with a great shopping area! I dread to think how the other estates look, and as for The City Centre.......
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chrisbennett7
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a lot of places stock them around here, mainly just Tesco and Morrisons and a few independent retailers.

I wouldn't ban the public from using them, even though there are a handful of idiots that think its fun to harm others (and themselves) with them.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just because there are a few individuals that think its fun to be stupid with fireworks and cause harm, that doesn't mean that they should be banned. The fireworks shows near me were banned because of health and safety reasons, or the fact that getting insurance to do shows costs a heck of a lot of money, thats why my Local Primary School who has done firework shows for the past 10 years stopped least year, meaning there is no where else i can go to see them, only my back garden.

Why spoil it for everyone? Rather than banning it, they should be working to stop people mucking around with them
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In some parts (near where my parents live) fireworks is a sign that the latest drug shipment is in. Think yourself lucky you don't have to deal with it every other week! Banning fireworks does nothing - In my state, you can't legally buy fireworks, but it doesn't mean you can't get them.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Fireworks Reply with quote

SE13 wrote:
This is possibly one maybe aimed at people from The United Kingdom, as we head toward Guy Fawkes Night, or Bonfire Night as it is often known

It's that time of the year again. Sleep is a battle because there are people outside throwing fireworks around. Other people are having practice parties, setting their fireworks off to see the impact. There are countless children and adults injured by stray fireworks.

Is it time to have a complete ban on the sale of fireworks to the general public, and have displays organised by professionals only?

Each and every year, there are still a mindless few who seem hellbent of injuring either themselves or others with these ever more powerful fireworks. Tighter controls would be a good idea, but already it is an 18 age limit. Something worthy of a mention is the sheer amount of shops selling the things. Just locally, I can think of half a dozen shops selling them, all within a five minute walk of the house, and we aren't exactly blessed with a great shopping area! I dread to think how the other estates look, and as for The City Centre.......


why couldn't it have been an "oooooh, aaaaaaaaah" post about beautiful fireworks instead of a Victor Meldrew "bloody kids" post???? Chris - you're an old man before your time! Laughing

I took my kids to our local display last night. Live musical entertainment, our local radio station was there, fairground, candy floss, fire jugglers, and a half hour fireworks display set to classical music from the movies and all for free! a decent police presence meant there were no idiots to spoil the evening, and the rain stayed off!! absolutely FANTASTIC!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2007 6:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Fireworks Reply with quote

mellymoo wrote:
why couldn't it have been an "oooooh, aaaaaaaaah" post about beautiful fireworks instead of a Victor Meldrew "bloody kids" post???? Chris - you're an old man before your time! Laughing

I took my kids to our local display last night. Live musical entertainment, our local radio station was there, fairground, candy floss, fire jugglers, and a half hour fireworks display set to classical music from the movies and all for free! a decent police presence meant there were no idiots to spoil the evening, and the rain stayed off!! absolutely FANTASTIC!! Very Happy



Goddamn hippies with their "let the kids enjoy themselves" attitude.

People like you that are ruining high blood pressure and early onset diabetes for the rest of us Twisted Evil

I feel a letter to my local republican/conservative congressman/M.P demanding that bonfires be made illegal ( except for the burning of immigrants, homosexuals and evolutionary textbooks).


Hrrmpph, humbug etc...

Seriously, Chris, chill the fudge out, and even if you don't, who cares? No one knows where Lincoln is anyway. Surprised your waterworld like county didn't manage to extinguish any attempts at conflagratory enjoyment, airborne or otherwise. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm.. why so much ruckus over fireworks? I still get a tingle of joy and brightness every time a firecracked lights the sky, even if it is for the nano second it lasts, but some where the child in me says its worth it.

Here in India, firecrackers plays a major role in the festival of lights called Diwali and thus, firecrackers are sold by all and sundry. So no big deal.

I wonder what are you complaining about in the first place.
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mellymoo
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rahulmalhotra wrote:
Hmm.. why so much ruckus over fireworks? I still get a tingle of joy and brightness every time a firecracked lights the sky, even if it is for the nano second it lasts, but some where the child in me says its worth it.

Here in India, firecrackers plays a major role in the festival of lights called Diwali and thus, firecrackers are sold by all and sundry. So no big deal.

I wonder what are you complaining about in the first place.


I wasn't complaining, i love them, and i suspect blighty was being sarcastic!

only one complaining was "Victor Meldrew" in that first post there! Laughing
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coralvalley
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 11:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would hate to see that a few people would ruin something for everyone else, but that is usually how it goes. I know where I live it is illegal to buy certain fireworks and you cannot light or fire them in some areas. Of course that does not stop people during some points in time, but really I would hate to see them become something that was banned to the general public. As with everything there is always someone who will abuse a privilege and that's what it sounds like it happening out by you. They have rules and limitations on what can and cannot be done especially during certain times of the year, so perhaps something like that being enforced by you might help with the situation.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People who get injured are often not careful with the fireworks or are watching someone not being careful with fireworks. Most of the risks involving fireworks can easily be avoided by people themselves. So the injuries that occur are almost always because of not being careful enough. Therefore, a ban does not make sense.

The fumes produced by fireworks, however, are quite bad for the environment. So that could count as a reason.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When tescos are selling rockets for less than five pounds each, is it any wonder that mindless use of fireworks always leads to injuries and sometimes even death. Children aren't allowed to buy fireworks but just like guns and cigerettes they can get hold of them easily and use them irresponsibily.

In most neighbourhoods from halloween to bonfire night is a basically a complete nightmare as the two seem to go hand in hand. Each and every year the fireworks seem to start earlier and last for longer. Even though the state provide free firework shows and makes a big effort to encourage saftey with fireworks, I still think that there should be a restriction on the time and place at which your can set off fireworks and also on the types of fireworks that are sold. Even though people complain that silent fireworks are no fun, it would save so much anxiety if people could not purcase them so readily. Besides the free council shows will provide great entertainment anyway so it there any need for everyone to buy fireworks and set them off?
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 3:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interestingly enough, where I live (which is, admittedly, not England), you can't buy or sell fireworks. So, basically, the only legal fireworks displays have to be put on by towns and cities. Which is sad. I don't know how bad it is around Guy Fawkes Night in England, but I do wish I could buy fireworks here, because they are cool and awesome, and as long as safety precautions are taken, not a problem. Maybe you should need a liscence to buy them (that shows you have taken, say, a fireworks safety course or something?)
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fireworks shouldn't be banned for the public. However I think restrictions need to be put on them: the more powerful ones and so on, should only be allowed for adults to buy. I'm not sure what laws are in place now (if any), but better age restrictions would help out. ID checks are needed, as I can bet many places avoid checking just to make some extra money.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes I feel like age restrictions are the first thing people think of, but I'm not sure that always works. I mean, the logical one (here at least) would be 18, but to be honest I know 16/17 year-olds that I would trust much more with fireworks that some 19/20yo I know. So. . .I'm not sure how much that would help, exactly, to limit it to only over 18s.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 08, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me and my friends has a get-together on Bonfire Night, and we had hundreds of fireworks (actually we have about 90 Very Happy). We were sensible with them (almost). Well put it this way we were trying to set them off in a sensible way but the thing is we did'nt actually no what any of them were going to do, so we would light it and run lol. Another thing that went a little wrong with two of them was that the one we lit and it went up about 10 feet then decided to go left in mid air straight over our heads, we were not expecting that and another one fell over and shot into the river and exploded, looked pretty cool.

I believe that as long as people are sensible with them and not trying to cause harm they should be not be banned or anything like that. Theres always a few who wreck it for everyone else...
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