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martinz
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 Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 10:57 am Post subject: Get a Blu Ray ? |
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| If you are planning to buy a high definition DVD, you better be sure what you are getting. As most of you are aware of the war between Sony Blu Ray and Toshiba's HD DVD format, consumers are not quite sure which one to buy. Some manufacturers have come out with players that are capable of playing both formats. Recent news seemed to suggest that Toshiba has lost the war, so better get a blu ray if you buy one. |
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| You know this is the problem I have with the *media.* They bias the news to say the war is over and HD has lost to Blu Ray. They make all the stories show how it is a guarantee that HD will go away, and they have been doing this from the start. Tell me one story you have seen when this *war* started that took any positive light towards HD over Blu Ray. You won't be able to there never was one. Same thing happened with VHS and Beta. Beta was actually better than VHS but the media got in bed with VHS and now we have that for Tapes. Personally I like HD over Blu Ray and have never thought of buying a Blu Ray player. I am actually planning on cancelling my Netflix subscription because of their choice to go with Blu Ray only. |
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| Pie32 wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | | Stay with DVD for now. Dual layer if you must. |
VHS just to be safe. |
The quality degrades over time, which is unlikely to happen with DVD. By the way, DVD is already the de facto standard right now so there is little risk involved when buying a DVD or DVD player as far as compatibility goes.
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| ClickFanatic wrote: | | Pie32 wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | | Stay with DVD for now. Dual layer if you must. |
VHS just to be safe. |
The quality degrades over time, which is unlikely to happen with DVD. By the way, DVD is already the de facto standard right now so there is little risk involved when buying a DVD or DVD player as far as compatibility goes. |
I think he was joking...
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Scott wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | | Pie32 wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | | Stay with DVD for now. Dual layer if you must. |
VHS just to be safe. |
The quality degrades over time, which is unlikely to happen with DVD. By the way, DVD is already the de facto standard right now so there is little risk involved when buying a DVD or DVD player as far as compatibility goes. |
I think he was joking... |
So do I. But there is no reason why a joke shouldn't get a serious reply. 
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| Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: |
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| Necromis wrote: | | You know this is the problem I have with the *media.* They bias the news to say the war is over and HD has lost to Blu Ray. They make all the stories show how it is a guarantee that HD will go away, and they have been doing this from the start. Tell me one story you have seen when this *war* started that took any positive light towards HD over Blu Ray. You won't be able to there never was one. Same thing happened with VHS and Beta. Beta was actually better than VHS but the media got in bed with VHS and now we have that for Tapes. Personally I like HD over Blu Ray and have never thought of buying a Blu Ray player. I am actually planning on cancelling my Netflix subscription because of their choice to go with Blu Ray only. |
I agree, though I never bought a player so I didn't pick a side or anything. I did personally like HD better for a number of reasons, one being that I honestly don't like Sony's business practices (this is a prime example of another one of their below the belt wars), and another being that HD was the consumer's format. The features were already there, and the players were cheaper. Blu-Ray is not yet ready for the consumer market, as their profiles will confuse almost everyone at one point or another, and their hardware is more expensive (of course, it's another Sony trademark).
Whatever, the media always does this with everything it gets its hands on. It's unfortunate but a mix of media bias and Sony buying out all the studios to pick their side ended up costing Toshiba. Instead of paying millions for that superbowl ad, they should have offered more money to the studios too so they could at least compete.
But whatever, what's done is done. Now I just want it to be over so we can all move on and just buy the definitive player.
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Stay with DVD unless you have a huge 50 inch tv. no reason to even get HD or BluRay on a normal tv.
Do you ever watch a damn and get mad and say "if only the image was more clear! I can't watch this!". ha! I doubt it.
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| Scar wrote: | Stay with DVD unless you have a huge 50 inch tv. no reason to even get HD or BluRay on a normal tv.
Do you ever watch a damn and get mad and say "if only the image was more clear! I can't watch this!". ha! I doubt it. |
Exactly. Anything over DVD quality is a waste. I watch VHS time to time and have no problems with quality, however, DVDs are more convenient, don't age, and no rewinding/fast-forwarding. The next generation seem to do nothing but some extra quality that would require a huge screen with matching capabilities to notice significantly. |
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HD DVD is NOT developed by Toshiba, rather, the DVD Forum.
Who cares whoever lost the war. You see the DVD Forum competing with the DVD+RW Alliance over the DVD formats, but there are still players available that are compatible with both DVD plus and minus.
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| ClickFanatic wrote: | | Pie32 wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | | Stay with DVD for now. Dual layer if you must. |
VHS just to be safe. |
The quality degrades over time, which is unlikely to happen with DVD. By the way, DVD is already the de facto standard right now so there is little risk involved when buying a DVD or DVD player as far as compatibility goes. |
The quality may degrade, but the format of VHS isn't changing (unlike DVD which is branching off into HD and Blu-Ray). So all VHS players will always be able to play all VHS tapes.
VHS was continued to be released until 2006, so, until you've seen every single movie that came out before 2006, you don't really need to be moving on to another format yet.
| Quote: | | HD DVD is NOT developed by Toshiba, rather, the DVD Forum. |
Toshiba was the major company behind the group that developed HD DVD, much like how Sony was the major company behind the group that developed Blu-Ray (but there were several other companies that pitched in on both).
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| Pie32 wrote: | | The quality may degrade, but the format of VHS isn't changing (unlike DVD which is branching off into HD and Blu-Ray). So all VHS players will always be able to play all VHS tapes. |
The current DVD format isn't changing. Branching doesn't mean that the format that is being branched from is dropped.
HD DVD and Blu-ray are both different from DVD5 and DVD9. The latter (single layer and double layer respectively) are still the industry standard for movies.
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Jacky
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| Pie32 wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | | Pie32 wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | | Stay with DVD for now. Dual layer if you must. |
VHS just to be safe. |
The quality degrades over time, which is unlikely to happen with DVD. By the way, DVD is already the de facto standard right now so there is little risk involved when buying a DVD or DVD player as far as compatibility goes. |
The quality may degrade, but the format of VHS isn't changing (unlike DVD which is branching off into HD and Blu-Ray). So all VHS players will always be able to play all VHS tapes.
VHS was continued to be released until 2006, so, until you've seen every single movie that came out before 2006, you don't really need to be moving on to another format yet.
| Quote: | | HD DVD is NOT developed by Toshiba, rather, the DVD Forum. |
Toshiba was the major company behind the group that developed HD DVD, much like how Sony was the major company behind the group that developed Blu-Ray (but there were several other companies that pitched in on both). |
No.
Toshiba is a member of the DVD Forum and is also chipping in on HD DVD. They are NOT considered to be the company developing them, rather, the alliance, which is the DVD Forum.
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