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you can now download and check out thew IE8 beta. sounds like its going to be very good. i'm downloading it right now.
Download page:
http://www.microsoft.com/windo.....nstall.htm
A list of the new features so far:
http://www.microsoft.com/windo.....atures.htm
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Activities
Activities are contextual services to quickly access a service from any webpage. Users typically copy and paste from one webpage to another. Internet Explorer 8 Activities make this common pattern easier to do.
Activities typically involve two types of scenarios: "look up" information within a webpage or "send" web content to a web application. For example, a user is interested in a restaurant and wants to see the location of it. This is the form of a "look up" Activity where the user selects the address and views an in-place view of the map using his favorite map service.
[img:95a4a69ba9]http://www.damnidunno.com/temp/ScreenActivities.png[/img:95a4a69ba9]
An example of a "send" Activity is a user reads an interesting article and wants to blog about a portion of the article. The user can select a portion of the article and uses the blog Activity. This navigates to the user’s blog site with the selection already available in the edit field.
Activities are services that the user can install and manage. Users can install them from the Internet Explorer 8 Service Guide or through any website that advertises Activities.
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WebSlices
WebSlices is a new feature for websites to connect to their users by subscribing to content directly within a webpage. WebSlices behave just like feeds where clients can subscribe to get updates and notify the user of changes.
[img:95a4a69ba9]http://www.damnidunno.com/temp/ScreenWebSlicePreview2.png[/img:95a4a69ba9]
Internet Explorer 8 Users can discover WebSlices within a webpage and add them to the Favorites bar, a dedicated row below the Address bar for easy access to links. Internet Explorer 8 subscribes to the webpage, detects changes in the WebSlice, and notifies the user of updates. Users can preview these updates directly from the Favorites bar and click-through to the website to get more information.
Favorites Bar
In Internet Explorer 7, the Links bar provided users with one-click access to their favorite sites. The Links bar has undergone a complete makeover for Internet Explorer 8. It has been renamed the Favorites bar to enable users to associate this bar as a place to put and easily access all their favorite web content such as links, feeds, WebSlices and even Word, Excel and PowerPoint documents.
[img:95a4a69ba9]http://www.damnidunno.com/temp/ScreenFavoritesBar.png[/img:95a4a69ba9]
A user can easily add a link to the Favorites bar by using the Add to Favorites button and selecting the Add to Favorites Bar option.
[img:95a4a69ba9]http://www.damnidunno.com/temp/ScreenFavoritesBar2.png[/img:95a4a69ba9]
Automatic Crash Recovery
Automatic Crash Recovery (ACR) is a feature of Windows®Internet Explorer® 8 that can help to prevent the loss of work and productivity in the unlikely event of the browser crashing or hanging. The ACR feature takes advantage of the Loosely-Coupled Internet Explorer feature to provide new crash recovery capabilities, such as tab recovery, which will minimize interruptions to users’ browsing sessions.
[img:95a4a69ba9]http://www.damnidunno.com/temp/ScreenCrashRecovery.png[/img:95a4a69ba9]
Improved Phishing Filter
Internet Explorer 7 introduced the Phishing Filter, a feature which helps warn users when they visit a Phishing site. Phishing sites spoof a trusted legitimate site, with the goal of stealing the user’s personal or financial information. For Internet Explorer 8, we are building on the success of the Phishing Filter with a more comprehensive feature called the "Safety Filter."
[img:95a4a69ba9]http://www.damnidunno.com/temp/ScreenSafetyFilter.png[/img:95a4a69ba9]
The Safety Filter continues to block known Phishing sites and now blocks sites known to contain malicious software that could harm users’ computer or steal their information. Beyond this improved protection, the Safety Filter operates more quickly than ever before to ensure that users can browse both safely and quickly.
For IT administrators, new Group Policy options are available to remove the user-override option and fully block access to known unsafe sites. |
That's all they are sharing now, but i'm sure that there will be alot more.
So far Ie8 sounds more promising then Firefox 3 does (i'm a firefox user, but was let down by the latest Firefox 3 Beta.
http://www.lifelesspeople.com/.....hp?t=47546
Now i'm off to install ie7 beta. 
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| Wait do I hear this right, microsoft is coming out with a new version of something they distribute for free within a couple years. Is there a security flaw in IE7 or are they just trying to keep everyone from moving to firefox, opera, and other browsers. I only use IE to download firefox on a fresh install so I have really no recent experience with IE but if IE8 turns out to be better than firefox3 with extensions, I may actually switch back to IE on my windows systems. (I never thought I would say that) |
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Some extremely original new features restoring the sessions after an unexpected end, bookmarks in the tool bar... who could have thought of something so creative?
Anyways, even though it is just a BETA, it still seems kind of soon because I hardly see people even using IE7 everywhere I go where someone uses internet explorer, they are still using 6.
| Quote: | | Automatic Crash Recovery (ACR) is a feature of Windows®Internet Explorer® 8 that can help to prevent the loss of work and productivity in the unlikely event of the browser crashing |
Anyone else find that kind of funny?
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| Scott wrote: | Some extremely original new features restoring the sessions after an unexpected end, bookmarks in the tool bar... who could have thought of something so creative?
Anyways, even though it is just a BETA, it still seems kind of soon because I hardly see people even using IE7 everywhere I go where someone uses internet explorer, they are still using 6.
| Quote: | | Automatic Crash Recovery (ACR) is a feature of Windows®Internet Explorer® 8 that can help to prevent the loss of work and productivity in the unlikely event of the browser crashing |
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The few times that I ever use ie, it never crashes. on the other hand firefox crashes on my alot. but for osme reason I still stick with Firefox. Don't know why really.
Where do you live? Using IE6 still says something about the person/people rather than the software.
I have few problems with ie8 beta.
Seems that the mouse scrolling is even worse than it is in ie6. Smoothing option for it doesn't work.
Also cleartype font sin ie8 do not really work. For some reason alot of the text turns out to have a green shade to it, which is annoying.
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Well my school still uses IE6 even though they have the icon set to the IE7 icon for some reason... Other than that people don't really know any better/don't care, the only way most of people would upgrade is if it popped up saying a new version is available when you open it like Firefox (or does it do this?).
I haven't used IE as an actual browser for years so I don't know how often it crashes now but I find it kind of funny that they stuck in the word "unlikely".
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Firefox never crashes on me, don't know what you are doing to it 
I am hoping for IE8 to be good. I like the "Activities" concept, it should be interesting to see what comes out of it. Will Microsoft allow other companies to use it? (i.e. use google maps instead of live maps?) What I don't like is the Phishing Filter that they have on IE, and it looks like this is only going to become more pervasive. It would pop up quite often and be like "Hey! This looks like a phishing site!" I think I can tell that for myself... but I forget that most Windows users aren't that intelligent when it comes to computers... I'll maybe wait until the next beta release (does MS do more than one beta release?) before I grab it though.
Most everyone I know is using Firefox for their main browser... I suppose that it helps that I have had to run restores on a lot of my friends computers because they contracted malware that I couldn't figure out how to remove, and I just happened to install Firefox in the process of putting their applications back on 
Just an addendum: you know what I would love? Internet Explorer for linux. It would make it easier for multi-browser compatibility testing. But alas, linux doesn't have all those "great features" such as Active X or the .Net framework.
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| Scott wrote: | Well my school still uses IE6 even though they have the icon set to the IE7 icon for some reason... Other than that people don't really know any better/don't care, the only way most of people would upgrade is if it popped up saying a new version is available when you open it like Firefox (or does it do this?).
I haven't used IE as an actual browser for years so I don't know how often it crashes now but I find it kind of funny that they stuck in the word "unlikely". |
Actually it should pop up telling them to download IE7. That's called windows update. If your school has that disabled then they kinda deserve any negative problems that arise from not using common tech sense.
Firefox pops up and tells you, but i don't see the point since everytime it updates it just adds new features, but doesnt fix any bugs.
| Rashy wrote: | Firefox never crashes on me, don't know what you are doing to it
I am hoping for IE8 to be good. I like the "Activities" concept, it should be interesting to see what comes out of it. Will Microsoft allow other companies to use it? (i.e. use google maps instead of live maps?) What I don't like is the Phishing Filter that they have on IE, and it looks like this is only going to become more pervasive. It would pop up quite often and be like "Hey! This looks like a phishing site!" I think I can tell that for myself... but I forget that most Windows users aren't that intelligent when it comes to computers... I'll maybe wait until the next beta release (does MS do more than one beta release?) before I grab it though.
Most everyone I know is using Firefox for their main browser... I suppose that it helps that I have had to run restores on a lot of my friends computers because they contracted malware that I couldn't figure out how to remove, and I just happened to install Firefox in the process of putting their applications back on
Just an addendum: you know what I would love? Internet Explorer for linux. It would make it easier for multi-browser compatibility testing. But alas, linux doesn't have all those "great features" such as Active X or the .Net framework. |
I call random deleting of my passwords and other login info including bookmarks crashing. This happens randomly and i'm not the only person who experiences this. Although this does happen, i still use it as my default browser and rarely ever touch any other browsers.
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Thanks for the link scott. Unfortunately it doesn't cover IE 7... but I have my windows box still.
Scar: I haven't experienced that problem with Firefox. If it continues to harass you, maybe you could go for Opera? And do you know if it is being caused by firefox or by an extension?
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Yeah im' pretty sure that my firefox problems aren't caused by any extension or my system beacuse I have different systems that it has happened on, and i don't use many extensions if any at all. Plus I know of none that could possibly create them bugs for firefox. But i suppose its so.
I love opera and i want to use it, but it doesn't support roboform or other popular toolbars such as google's. SO until they make it usable in a wider range, i cant use it. Hate to be held back, and i cant ever find good enough alternatives.
oh yeah. a new feature that i found on ie8 beta is a feature that lets you emulate ie7, which is cool.
It's hard for me to know whats a ie8 feature or a iepro feature. need to uninstall iepro
By the way i think ie8 triggers migraines, because ever since i downloaded it and installed it i have had a huge migraine. finally go the blinding auras to go away!
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| Scott wrote: | | Quote: | | Automatic Crash Recovery (ACR) is a feature of Windows®Internet Explorer® 8 that can help to prevent the loss of work and productivity in the unlikely event of the browser crashing |
Anyone else find that kind of funny? |
Please keep the trolish comments out of the discussion. As you even admit, you don't even use IE anymore. Its just marketing-speak.
I'm no microsoft fan but I run IE7 at work all day and I honestly don't have stability issues, except when someone writes some dodgy Javascript!
Its a good thing that microsoft have finally pulled out their finger with IE8 and made it render in standards compliant mode by default.
The activities feature is really exciting. I know I often will read an article and then jump to google and find out more from other sources. I think it could be super useful. |
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Does anybody know what the status for theming and user-developed extensions are for IE 8? Or how about general customization? I don't like the way IE 7 is laid out (missing the File, Edit, View, etc. menus and replacing them with that new menu system), nor do I particularily like the way it looks (it doesn't look BAD... its just... doesn't fit my taste I guess you could say).
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Well, installed IE 8's beta last night and it basically destroyed my computer. It killed explorer and I had to do a system restore.
I'll post my Dr. Watson log if anyone's curious.
I use a Gateway MT3421. My guess, without looking at the log, is that IE 8 has a system conflict specific builds of Vista (remember, the version of Vista you get from your computer manufacturer as opposed to the version you buy off the shelf are different. MS specifically developed some features for specific manufacturers).
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Does installing IE8 overwrites IE7? I sure hope not. I want to try the new beta, though I'm a bit worried about it destroying the existing browser installation.
LP-Harvey's post made me even more wary, though. Having the entire system crash would suck, and I don't want to damage my poor laptop that barely runs as it is.
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| marinaroz wrote: | Does installing IE8 overwrites IE7? I sure hope not. I want to try the new beta, though I'm a bit worried about it destroying the existing browser installation.
LP-Harvey's post made me even more wary, though. Having the entire system crash would suck, and I don't want to damage my poor laptop that barely runs as it is. |
The IE8 beta works like a patch on top of IE7. If you don't like it, you can simply uninstall it.
But if you run into the same problem as me, you won't be able to reach the uninstall properties and will have to do a system restore. |
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