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DarkY
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 4:28 am    Post subject: IE & FF Problem Reply with quote

Hello all!

I have a problem with my L2(Lineage 2) website. I have made new graphics for it but when i stopped to check how it looks on FireFox everything was perfect. I opened Internet Explorer and BOOM everything was so ugly... well i have fixed the most serious stuff but what i must do on the page so it don't change when its loaded in IE? And on Internet Explorer (any version) some graphics were not able to be saw .. so i removed them..i can't try to make syntax between the look in the both browsers.... it will be kind of hard ... Do you have any suggestions about fixing over this? And how... because those problems are making my page totaly ugly... Thanks in advance Wink and hope you understand what i mean.
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marinaroz
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of css differences between IE and FireFox. Hell, there is plenty of difference between IE6 and IE7 too.

The best advice I can give? Start from scratch and triple check every step of your design on each of your browsers (adding in Opera and Safari might be a good idea too). When you run into a problem, just google for the solution, as most of your issues will come from known bugs and incompatibilities between the browsers.

Good luck Smile
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DarkY
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard that there are java scripts which take a look of the browser and redirect you to the page which is more compitable with your browser. But that needs a lot of work and time. Which i dont have. Out there are plenty of browsers... hell damn it... And the encoding of the words is different between FF and Internet Explorer.

Anyway thanks for the answer i will search some good solutions for repairing all of this Smile
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marinaroz
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You definitely don't want to go with a script like what you've described. It won't do any favors to your google rating, you know. Googlebot doesn't read javascript, so this script will do you disservice.

Also, you risk preventing the users for whom you don't have a style version, from ever accessing the site.

Now, if the script only switches your stylesheet rather than redirect to another page, that is much better. But still, why do twice the work and maintain multiple stylesheets? It's better to just have one, and make it work for as many browsers as you can bother to.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 15, 2007 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Also, you risk preventing the users for whom you don't have a style version, from ever accessing the site.

The more practical implementations of this technique use a default stylesheet for all browsers unless JavaScript is enabled or server side scripting correctly identifies the browser AND has a custom stylesheet for that browser. This means that users and search engines have no problems with accessing the site.

Having said that, if your code is well written enough from the foundations, you should not need the use of more than one stylesheet, besides, multiple stylesheets can cause problems or hassles with maintenance.
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spock
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's basically impossible to get you're sight to look right and exactly the same in all mayor browsers.

However, you can try to make your site look as acceptable/as good as possible in most browsers.

The best advice to get that done is by just keeping all your html and css as simple as possible, just test in all major browsers.

A while ago I worked on a project with four others, it took about 30 days. Getting the layout to look good on all major browsers took us 4 of the 30 days! (It was a pretty complex layout, and all of the modules, special pages, admin panel etc. also had to look good)

So usually, it will be tricky and a lot of work. Though you will probably get better at it over time.
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skrelk
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Block IE users from the site. You give microsoft the finger, and ensure your website looks good.
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marinaroz
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

skrelk wrote:
Block IE users from the site. You give microsoft the finger, and ensure your website looks good.


And that gains what exactly, a decreased amount of visitors? All in the name of petty vindettas.

Completely blocking visitors according to their browser is the most impractical thing you can do. If what your site has to offer is valuable enough, users will prefer to have access to a semi-broken website rather than be turned away completely. Besides, some browsers which are not IE like Opera or Safari, can pretend to be IE, and then you're alienating those users too.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

skrelk wrote:
Block IE users from the site. You give microsoft the finger, and ensure your website looks good.

And you lose like at least 60% of the visitors on a mainstream site?

It would do less harm on a technology site, since more visitors use good browsers, however a mainstream site usually attracts more IE-visitors than good browser-visitors. Just blocking out most of your potential visitors is not a good idea.

I agree more people should switch over, and it's true Internet Explorer is lousy concerning the web standards. However keeping out users using it seems to be a ludicrous measure to me.

It's better to fix the css and maybe introduce some css hacks to at least mae the page look reasonable in Internet Explorer.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: IE & FF Problem Reply with quote

DarkY wrote:
Hello all!

I have a problem with my L2(Lineage 2) website. I have made new graphics for it but when i stopped to check how it looks on FireFox everything was perfect. I opened Internet Explorer and BOOM everything was so ugly... well i have fixed the most serious stuff but what i must do on the page so it don't change when its loaded in IE? And on Internet Explorer (any version) some graphics were not able to be saw .. so i removed them..i can't try to make syntax between the look in the both browsers.... it will be kind of hard ... Do you have any suggestions about fixing over this? And how... because those problems are making my page totaly ugly... Thanks in advance Wink and hope you understand what i mean.


It is easier to solve your problem if you can provide a screen capture or the url so that we can look what mess the IE
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