| If you will die tonight were will you go in heaven or in hell? |
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| hell |
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| I don't know |
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| It will be the end |
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| I will be reincarnated |
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Elyriel
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If I die today, I really don’t know where I’m going but, as Neil wrote:
| Neil wrote: | | If you believe in Jesus and follow His ways, you will go to heaven. |
And I do believe, and I do follow his ways. But only God knows where we all go in our death.
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thenextbigthing05
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Elyriel & Neil~
How can you believe this:
| Quote: | | If you believe in Jesus and follow His ways, you will go to heaven. |
Your accepting part of the Bible (believing in Jesus, following his example and heaven) but your twisting its context, and not even glancing at the rest! To go to heaven you confess with you mouth that Jesus is Lord, Believe in you heart that he came, died, and rose again, and ask for forgiveness for your sin, and try not to do them again. Its a lifestyle not a five minute thing, its eternal, and you know where you going, you know if your right with God or if theres sin in your life. And God is not the only one who knows where your going, you do!
P.S. the bible says no sin shall enter the gates of heaven, so its not only believing and following...
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CosminG
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| LP-Nacht wrote: | | CosminG wrote: | | I do not consider reincarnation an option. I didn't put it in the pull, LP-Nacht did. |
I did so because a lot of people around here do believe in reincarnation, so it only seemed fair  |
I intended to have a heaven / hell post, some do not care or some care, but do not know. I belive reincarnation is not a valid option becouse it comes from a religion wich say that all religions are true, that all are like paths on a mountain wich get you on top. It does not matter wich oen you choose you will get up there. But, If that is true it means that the Bible shows one way, but Jesus sad: | Quote: | | "I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. " |
John 14:6
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alloyD
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I am sure that I am going to heaven because of what is says in my sig. I have done and still do this. So that is that. Its really that easy
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weeneedhelp
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supprise, if i die today, i will be right where i died, and i wont be living, i'll be dead. -_-
| Quote: | | Gen. 3:19: “In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” |
| Quote: | | Ps. 146:4: “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.” |
and will my soul go about living somewherelse? or haunting people i have a grudge against?
| Quote: | | Eccl. 9:5: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” |
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CosminG
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| weeneedhelp wrote: | supprise, if i die today, i will be right where i died, and i wont be living, i'll be dead. -_-
| Quote: | | Gen. 3:19: “In the sweat of your face you will eat bread until you return to the ground, for out of it you were taken. For dust you are and to dust you will return.” |
| Quote: | | Ps. 146:4: “His spirit goes out, he goes back to his ground; in that day his thoughts do perish.” |
and will my soul go about living somewherelse? or haunting people i have a grudge against?
| Quote: | | Eccl. 9:5: “The living are conscious that they will die; but as for the dead, they are conscious of nothing at all.” |
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The old testament does not have the complete truth, ubt it is just a shadow of the real thinks. Read more:
Matthew 25
| Quote: | 14 "For the kingdom of heaven is as a man travelling into a far country, who called his own servants, and delivered unto them his goods. " 15 "And unto one he gave five talents, to another two, and to another one; to every man according to his several ability; and straightway took his journey. " 16 "Then he that had received the five talents went and traded with the same, and made them other five talents. " 17 "And likewise he that had received two, he also gained other two. " 18 "But he that had received one went and digged in the earth, and hid his lord's money. " 19 "After a long time the lord of those servants cometh, and reckoneth with them. " 20 "And so he that had received five talents came and brought other five talents, saying, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me five talents: behold, I have gained beside them five talents more. " 21 "His lord said unto him, Well done, thou good and faithful servant: thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. " 22 "He also that had received two talents came and said, Lord, thou deliveredst unto me two talents: behold, I have gained two other talents beside them. " 23 "His lord said unto him, Well done, good and faithful servant; thou hast been faithful over a few things, I will make thee ruler over many things: enter thou into the joy of thy lord. " 24 "Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed: " 25 "And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, there thou hast that is thine. " 26 "His lord answered and said unto him, Thou wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed: " 27 "Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury. " 28 "Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. " 29 "For unto every one that hath shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath. " 30 "And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
" 31 "When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory: " 32 "And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats: " 33 "And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. " 34 "Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: " 35 "For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in: " 36 "Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me. " 37 "Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink? " 38 "When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee? " 39 "Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee? " 40 "And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me. " 41 "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: " 42 "For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink: " 43 "I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not. " 44 "Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee? " 45 "Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me. " 46 "And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
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schudder
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So you're saying the New Testament has the complete truth of life, universe and everything?
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Neil
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| thenextbigthing05 wrote: | Elyriel & Neil~
How can you believe this:
| Quote: | | If you believe in Jesus and follow His ways, you will go to heaven. |
Your accepting part of the Bible (believing in Jesus, following his example and heaven) but your twisting its context, and not even glancing at the rest! To go to heaven you confess with you mouth that Jesus is Lord, Believe in you heart that he came, died, and rose again, and ask for forgiveness for your sin, and try not to do them again. Its a lifestyle not a five minute thing, its eternal, and you know where you going, you know if your right with God or if theres sin in your life. And God is not the only one who knows where your going, you do!
P.S. the bible says no sin shall enter the gates of heaven, so its not only believing and following... |
Did I say it's a five minute thing? Read my sentence one more time.
| Neil wrote: | | If you believe in Jesus and follow His ways, you will go to heaven. |
I have been saved, I am reading the Bible and going to church every Sunday. I am trying to follow Christ and do things that pleases God.
For these reasons, I am on the highway to heaven.  |
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imoveis
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I believe that to the haven because I am a good person I do not see the bad things that I find in the world. The world is very bad and knows that I am not part of this called spectacle modern civilization I try to live my life in peace and know that one day I will be in the paradise
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CosminG
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schudder
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You say it completes the Bible... but if you say it like that, aren't you disregarding the opposites between the Old and New Testament? "Eye for an eye <-> Turn the other cheek" comes to mind...
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CosminG
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| schudder wrote: | | You say it completes the Bible... but if you say it like that, aren't you disregarding the opposites between the Old and New Testament? "Eye for an eye <-> Turn the other cheek" comes to mind... |
There is no contradiction. The Old Testament is the law; The law say Eye for an eye. But, nobody could respect all the laws, so people could not be saved trow law. Becouse if they break only one law they must die.
The New Testament brings the solutin: The love of God for us. God give His only Son to die for us. To py our bill and everyone how belive in that it is saved. Becouse God loved us so much even that we were bad we must do the same. the law "eye of eye" stands, but we love and "turn the other cheek" and let God to respect the "eye of eye". God said that He will revenge, but first He give a chance. We must do the same.
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Desbrina
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DanielB
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every men will die... because is the destany... i dont think that the answer is corect... because if a man live like a pig and he make bad thinks and he didnt accept Jesus... he will go in hell, but the guy that accept Jesus and live like Jesus he will go in Heaven.
i vote Heave... and i try day by day to be like Jesus, and when i fall i try to ontinue, nut firts of all to go at Jesus and ask to forgive me...
ya thats my opinion... i respect every opinion...
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