| If you will die tonight were will you go in heaven or in hell? |
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| It will be the end |
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| I will be reincarnated |
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ruther
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| Why don't we enjoy life to the fullest and forget those worries about dying... |
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sofa
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I will be reincarnated or wil go to hell. Just jokinh. I would like to go to heaven but I have done a lot of things wrong and I have to do something good until I die.
But the majority of people do not deserve to go to heaven. Do we pray every day, do we help others, don' t we lie all the time, aren' t we all greedy. |
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mistknight
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I'm a Muslim. And I believe in God, heaven and hell. Not because Muslims say I have to. But because the Quran tells me that God's true revelation does not contradict science, itself, or logic. On the contrary, it tells us how people were deluded just because they blindly devoured what they were fed.
| Quote: | | "Or have We given them a scripture before this, so that they should hold fast to it? Indeed, they say: 'This was the faith our fathers practised. We are merely walking in their footsteps.' Thus, whenever, before you, We sent an apostle to forewarn a nation, those who lived in comfort said: 'This was the faith our fathers practised; we are merely following in their footsteps.' Each apostle said: 'What if I bring you a faith more enlightened than your fathers'?' But they replied: 'We reject the message you have been sent with.'" 43:21-24 |
It even goes to the level of warning only those who believe in a deity with no proof.
| Quote: | | "He that invokes another god besides God, a god of whose divinity he has no proof -- his Lord will bring him to account. The unbelievers shall never prosper." 23:117 |
Furthermore, the God of Islam is omnipotent, omnipresent, and all-knowing. He doesn't need human worship or human love, they simply do that for their own good, not for his benefit. But he repays those who, despite their free will, choose to thank him for granting them so much in life, and choose to live their lives according to his commandments that spring from his infinite wisdom and knowledge. And he punishes those who, despite clear unrefutable signs, choose to reject him. He is none like his creation, because if he were, he would rightly be called a creature!
| Quote: | | "Creator of the heavens and the earth, He has given you spouses from among yourselves, and cattle male and female; by this means He multiplies His creatures. Nothing can be compared with Him. He alone hears all and sees all." 42:11 |
You ask of these clear unrefutable signs? Well, Islam doesn't want you to "believe" by some miracle! It contains proof of its divine origins inside its revealed scripture, the Quran. To Arabs, it gives this challenge
| Quote: | | "If you doubt what We have revealed to Our servant, produce one chapter comparable to it. Call upon your idols to assist you, if what you say be true. But if you fail (as you are sure to fail), then guard yourselves against the Fire whose fuel is men and stones, prepared for the unbelievers." 2:23-24 |
So far, the Quran is the only literature in its genre. And it would have taken quite infinite knowledge to decisively state that humankind are incapable of producing anything that approaches the sublime words of the Arabic Quran. So what are the unrefutable signs to non-Muslims? They are the scientific verses contained in the Quran, that are scientifically accurate, showing that God doesn't need humans to protect his revelations, he is well able to show humans that these words are his, and his alone.
So, am I going to heaven or hell? I hope I go to heaven. But as Islam teaches, and as I am logically convinced, we were given much more than we are giving back. And no human can go to heaven by his own works, neither I, nor even prophet Muhammad himself. We go to heaven by God's Mercy and Grace. But no human would go to heaven without his good works. To reach heaven, we are required belief in God and to do good deeds. |
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Jas0n
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Hopefully heaven, but I'm quite skeptical of religion itself, not just my religion, but all religions as well.
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Confused
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I actually thought about this last night. I'm a good person, but am I good enough? I'm a witch to my little brother, and I feel bad about that. I know I have a good heart, but will that get me into Heaven? Also, I'm not a very good Christian; I rarely pray and my family hasn't been to church for months. However, I still have faith in my religion.
And I do believe in reincarnation, but I'm not sure if I will have another life before I go on to Heaven, or will I return later?
I just don't know, but I guess I'm not supposed to know. |
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OrderComp
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Confused well Jesus came so we can have life and have it more abundantly. Heaven and hell start here on this earth. A person that is born again and we say he is going to heaven it is allready in heaven, becouse he is in Jesus, and beeing with God is Heaven. | John 5:24 wrote: | | "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. " |
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athena
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It's difficult question, where will I go;)
Of course it it depends from many factors. In what time will I die and why?
But I think, that the most probably is that my family will take me to mortuary... And later I will go into the coffin and... ground. Then it will be a lot of worms next to me... And... Maybe I don't write what will be later;)
But now serious. Die is the end of our life. And when we die, we end everything. There is no place to go after this... Don't you think that Heaven is a place for angels and God? It's my opinion. And if you read Bible careful you can see that God wants to make Earth for people. And we can live here forever. But... We must die (you know history of Adam and Eva;)). But it's very interesting, that our bodies can live forever. In his book The Dream of Eternal Life, Mark Benecke notes: “Nearly all of the body is renewed several times during the course of a life. . . . After about seven years, we are new people in the truest sense of the word.”
And I think that question is :What we can do, if we don't want to die. Because I don't want to:)
The thought of our own death is always distasteful and it always will be. Why is that? It is because God has infused us with the keen desire to live forever. "He has also put eternity in their hearts," says Ecclesiastes 3:11, according to the Anchor Bible. 'The inevitability of death, therefore, has created an internal conflict in humans, a persisting disharmony. To reconcile this internal conflict and to satisfy the natural yearning to live on, humans have fabricated all sorts of beliefs, from the doctrine of the immortality of the soul to the belief in reincarnation.'
It's sad, but people cannot to make our life longer (I think about a hundred of years no just years;)) We must die... And of course it doesn't make difference will I die today or maybe tomorrow.;P
But... The possibility of death helps us to live our lives in a more meaningful way.
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OrderComp
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To be onest with you were will you go when you die does not depend on many factors, but on single one. That is if you have or have not Jesus in your heart. Or if you are born again or not. We have all made sins and the pay for the sin is death. So all of us dezerve to go to hell witch is eternal death. But, God so much loved the world that He gave His only Son to die for us, so He, Jesus pay for our sins with His death. If you belive in Jesus and you accept Him as Saviour and Lord than you will go to heaven.
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clpo13
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Oh lay off already. If that's what you believe, fine. Just don't expect the rest of us to believe it as well. When I die, I'll be gone. Forever, preferably. I don't want heaven, I don't want hell, I don't want to be reincarnated. No afterlife for me. And since that's what makes the most amount of sense to me, that's what I'll believe.
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OrderComp
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| clpo13 wrote: | | Oh lay off already. If that's what you believe, fine. Just don't expect the rest of us to believe it as well. When I die, I'll be gone. Forever, preferably. I don't want heaven, I don't want hell, I don't want to be reincarnated. No afterlife for me. And since that's what makes the most amount of sense to me, that's what I'll believe. |
Yes. This is what I belive. I think the true is the true no matter if I belive it or you belive it. So it is not a question of I what heaven or you do not want hell. The truth will be for all of us.
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clpo13
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Truth is relative. What is true for me may not be true for you, and vice versa. Until I see proof of your truth, I maintain that it does not apply to me.
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OrderComp
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| clpo13 wrote: | | Truth is relative. What is true for me may not be true for you, and vice versa. Until I see proof of your truth, I maintain that it does not apply to me. |
The truth is only one, what is diferent is mine and your perceotion of the truth. We may see it in one way, but the true is as it is not as me or you see it (only if we see it as it is)
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clpo13
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So then the truth may very well be as I say, just as much as it could be what you say.
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Scar
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Since god is a truely loving and understand god, I think you'll goto Heaven no matter what. unless you some deeply evil person in your heart which i thing are really demons or something. its hard to explain but you cant really justify saying that God is loving, forgiving and understanding and yet he'll send you to hell for little sins. I dont believe in that and i think its stupid.
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