Jesus

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I know there are many people out there that believe Jesus existed. Some believe he was simply a religious scholar, others believe he was just a nice man. While some people believe that Jesus is just a made up character.

So what do you believe? Who was Jesus? Did he die for our sins? Was he really nailed upon a cross? Was he a fake messiah?

I personally believe that Jesus is the Messiah, and is God's son. I believe that Mary gave birth to him, and he was raised up then eventually died for all of the sins of man kind. He then rose from the grave, then later went back to heaven, with his father. I also believe because of Jesus dieing on the cross that those who believe in him will have eternal life!
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[kdpk]

There are many proofs that jesus did exist - if jesus didnt exist - then how did he perform all of those miracles ? and one time a man were misshandlad and abused and stuff - kru he ki kojo he =) kala nangna baba - (if some from kenya read this duno how to say it in english sorry for waig language and stuff ) and still - you can see from photograph jesus . also martin luther king say he saw jesus - so must be true becus jesus exist - and not only for making bread and fish - but exist in our body

but for convince argument - if jesus not exist - then how he make and perform bred and fish for all pepols and feed every one . miracles have happen an he was jesus.

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[Xtreme]

It is impossible to believe that Jesus was just a "good teacher."

If you believe that He existed and believe the Gospel account of His ministry, then you have three choices regarding belief in Jesus:

1. He is the Son of God, the Messiah. He is God. The First and the Last. The eternal and almighty King of Heaven and earth. The Savior of the world - the Lamb of God.

2. He simply lied a great deal and his apostles are strikingly delusional.

2. He is a crackpot nut-case.

Since Jesus clearly claimed to be God, He must then either A) be God, B) be lying, or C) be utterly insane.

In the case of B or C, He was not, in fact, a good teacher at all. And in the case of A, He was not simply "just a good teacher."

So there is no such possibility of Christ being "just a good guy" or just an average guy trying to get a point across. Or even just a prophet or great teacher. He is God, a lier, or a nut-case. Period.

Kind of makes sense - He told us that being lukewarm was perhaps the worst choice. It is better to be either hot or cold instead of being lukewarm.

[dylan2xs]

why do you believe in jesus when there isnt any proof for it to be real? and why do you trust the bible, when you dont even know if it is really written by god, or written by men themselves?.. I don't believe in a deity. I was raised without any influence from my parents so I came to my own conclusions about what I believe. I do not agree with parents that more or less force their children to follow their same beliefs. The reason I don't believe is simply because I don't see enough evidence for its existence.
I think people create religion in order to explain and account for something that is beyond their comprehension. The gods of old are now easily replaced by common sense and science as they break away the simple mechanics of the universe. If you’ve ever wondered why people like to live so much it is because they are afraid of dying… afraid of the ethereal universe beyond. Religion is the remedy when science and understanding has failed.There was a man named Jesus, but he was not the son of any god...If you can say that you truly believe in a god why would there not be a Santa Claus or Easter Bunny, why not worship the Tooth Fairy. Spider Man and Super Man also have many books written about their accomplishments also. Organized religions is for feeble minded people Religion not only gives something to aspire and look forward to after dying, it also gives us an answer. As my noble friend once said ‘I do not believe in a god, but if I were dying I would’ which somewhat portrays the foolishness of man.

[clpo13]

I prefer the liar argument. But a liar is not always a bad person. It all depends on the motive. From what I know of both Christianity and Judaism, it would seem to me that Jesus would claim to be the Messiah in order to unite the Jews against the Romans. This fits in nicely with the very idea of the Jewish Messiah, who would re-unite the Jewish people under one king under God, as it was before they were conquered numerous times.

This doesn't, however, fit with what we know of Jesus. My explanation is that stories change over 2000 years. There were many ancient historians who acknowledge the existence of Jesus, so it's not his existence that's in question. It's his actions during his life. It could be easily said that most of Jesus' life was a fiction created by the Church years after his death. Such a claim would obviously be contested by any self-respecting Christian, but excepting the Bible, there is no reliable source of Jesus' life, and only Christians are really going to accept the Bible as a reliable source of anything.

I really don't have any proof for any of this; it's just what makes sense to me.
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[Artakserksis]

I cannot know if he actually existed, but if he did he was an insane communist or something. Which is uber cool

[Duck]

Who knows? That was 2000 years ago, and we don't have any reliable records that can definitively say yes or no. I'd say a guy named Jesus probably existed, and probably had a life that roughly matches the life detailed in the new testament, but I don't believe he was the son of god, because I simply am not convinced that there is a god.
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[Artakserksis]

I think that yes, he existed. He was a guy with communist ideologies that dreamed of a better world.

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[kenoodo]

My opinion is that it is not so matter if you believe Jesus was there or not, the religion is there, as it is always be.

Proof? You can say that Jesus is there with you, and you can prove that, can't you? If not, you just try.

It is a question of believing. Everybody has his/her own believe, but no one could say that his/her is the right one. Yeah, I am talking about that on you, not from the books or form your teachers.

Miracle or proof? Choose one and show us.

[wellingtonboots]

Tacitus and Josephus (two famous Roman historians) actually mention Jesus in their writings. However he is not referred to as Jesus and therefore that leaves room for debate about Jesus's existence. But many of things described by Josephus are backed up by the Bible stories. It's important to remember that Josephus was a Jew and could possibly have met some of Jesus's followers. However he was writing in the 80s AD for the Romans and there would be little reason for him to make up a fictional character for their benefit. The followers of Jesus (if he existed) were still very much confined to the East at that time and Christianity as a religion had not yet been founded.

Tacitus does use some historical sources in his writings and he only mentions in passing the presence of a Jesus like figure during the rule of Tiberius. However he has mentioned it and he was a pure Roman with a distaste for most things foreign.

However the Bible stories of Jesus do not correlate with the acutal historic data from the time. For example there was no Roman census any where from 4BC-4AD in the Eastern provinces particularly not Syria. In addition Jedah was not a roman province until Flavius conquered it fully in about 75AD.

Pontius Pilot for from being a good man as described in the bible was actually tried in a Roman court for humanitarin crimes (something almost unheard of).
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