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Linux desktop environments, namely Gnome/KDE
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ClickFanatic
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcwkm wrote:
krt wrote:
Scar wrote:
but even it requires reading text code and applying sources for whatever

For almost all essential tasks, anything involving the command line or text files is usually just a shortcut for an available GUI method of doing the same thing and are usually provided by how-to writers to save both the writer and the end user time. Most of the time, it is just copy pasting commands or being told exactly what to edit. It's not like as if you have to learn any commands.

learning commands always helps though but it isn't necessary. how many windows users remember dos commands nowadays

Exactly, it really depends on what you want to do. I hardly work with the commandline, unless I want to do something specific. Then I just look it up somewhere.
It can be handy to know some commands, but only if you need to use them often.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually do like both Gnome and KDE. It's not that ugly and it works fine for me Very Happy

It's also easy to customize your desktop environment or just use another one. (You could use a really lightweight one combined with a OSX-like dockbar-aplication)

No, there's just nothing wrong with Gnome Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

krt wrote:
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Best desktop is still Windowmaker + GNUStep in my opinion.

You actually sound serious about that... I had a quick look at the WindowMaker gallery and before clicking any thumbnails, all I thought was "not a chance". But maybe there is more to it than the appearance, however, I'm not the type to find out.

Mainly a lot of key binds, it's easy to find "plugins". It has a really small memory footprint. And you'd be amazed how smooth everything goes if you configure it well and get used to it a bit.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ClickFanatic wrote:
Exactly, it really depends on what you want to do. I hardly work with the commandline, unless I want to do something specific. Then I just look it up somewhere.

I don't even have to look it up Silly Really, I do most things using graphics but there a quite a few things that are extremely nice to have. I can batch-resize and batch-rename photos and other files with just the tools installed already by most distributions.

In windows I couldn't do those things because the windows command prompt is not really useful most of the times. It lacks really important default commands.

I think you can do everything you want to do in Linux graphically, just like you would in windows. However, the command-line in linux is really useful for doing more complicated things that would have required special applications or quite a lot of work.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 11:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spock wrote:
ClickFanatic wrote:
Exactly, it really depends on what you want to do. I hardly work with the commandline, unless I want to do something specific. Then I just look it up somewhere.

I don't even have to look it up Silly Really, I do most things using graphics but there a quite a few things that are extremely nice to have. I can batch-resize and batch-rename photos and other files with just the tools installed already by most distributions.

In windows I couldn't do those things because the windows command prompt is not really useful most of the times. It lacks really important default commands.

I think you can do everything you want to do in Linux graphically, just like you would in windows. However, the command-line in linux is really useful for doing more complicated things that would have required special applications or quite a lot of work.

the command line is much more useful and quicker to get the job done when you know what your doing. And when people give instructions, it is much easier just to say the command instead of the graphical instructions.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mcwkm wrote:
spock wrote:
ClickFanatic wrote:
Exactly, it really depends on what you want to do. I hardly work with the commandline, unless I want to do something specific. Then I just look it up somewhere.

I don't even have to look it up Silly Really, I do most things using graphics but there a quite a few things that are extremely nice to have. I can batch-resize and batch-rename photos and other files with just the tools installed already by most distributions.

In windows I couldn't do those things because the windows command prompt is not really useful most of the times. It lacks really important default commands.

I think you can do everything you want to do in Linux graphically, just like you would in windows. However, the command-line in linux is really useful for doing more complicated things that would have required special applications or quite a lot of work.

the command line is much more useful and quicker to get the job done when you know what your doing. And when people give instructions, it is much easier just to say the command instead of the graphical instructions.


i don't know about that really. I think clicking a visual "okay" button or "next" etc would be alot easier than typing codes Silly
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Until you need to do a complex task.
A good example is MS Access, sure you can design the basic things with the query designer. But once it becomes more complex you're in for a lot of clicking while you can type it in about 10 seconds...
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