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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 7:15 am    Post subject: New WordPress theme Reply with quote

Lately I've been busy working on a design for my blog. I currently only have the front page design finished, which leaves much to be finished. I thought I'd post up what I've finished so I can (hopefully) get some constructive criticism. So, let me know what you think of it so far, and any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

[img:2e01e9cb40]http://www.grupenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/05/theme-preview.png[/img:2e01e9cb40]
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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like it. Simple yet catchy. The colors go well together and it is easy to read. The header seems a little plain without any sort of images, but it still looks pretty good. Maybe you could come up with a signature design or like a little image to put next to the logo? *shrug*
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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2007 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just changed around the post "meta data" under each post and switched to different icons.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It looks nice, but won't get a 'WOW' from me. The blue and orange don't go together too well. Also, it misses that special touch to make it... special. On the upside, it looks neat and organized, and easy to read.
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PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think it looks really great.
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 11:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simple Theme Thats What Most Websites and designs need you have captured simple very well.
the text is clean and trendy. the colours are simple (3 basic colours) i rate this a good 9/10 could be better with different colours a clean white.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty good in terms of a modern layout, if you add in add in a couple starbursts and the word "Beta" under your logo you should be all set for web 2.0! (sarcasm)

But in all seriousness the side bar navigation text seems a little too close to the left hand side. Push it maybe like 5-10 pixels over and you should be all good. Maybe a little more padding in the other things as well, give your text some room to breathe!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simply attractive. Nice use of icons. (We all love those, don't we? Smile)
I'd like to see a live version once it's done.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007 10:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marinaroz wrote:
It looks nice, but won't get a 'WOW' from me. The blue and orange don't go together too well. Also, it misses that special touch to make it... special. On the upside, it looks neat and organized, and easy to read.


Lol, I just seen this comment now. Blue and orange are complementary colors, ofcourse they work together, and the grey is the high contrast versus the white... all the colors work together.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 2:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drath wrote:
Lol, I just seen this comment now. Blue and orange are complementary colors, of course they work together, and the grey is the high contrast versus the white... all the colors work together.



Actually just because they are complementary colors doesn't make them compitable with each other. Complemantery colors are used to make certain impacts or sharp looking designs. So actually they dont work together and that's what attract the eye. I under line again, they have to be used together to make the ''complementary color'' effect. If you put a shade of blue on one side and put orange on the other, would simply not accomplish what the theory is suggesting.

What i think would go best with this design is not through different colours but rather through mono - crome way. After all its (the site) not offering anything but text. Since there isnt anything else to draw the attention to, than sticking with a general shade of a colour would do the trick.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 12:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gardi wrote:
Actually just because they are complementary colors doesn't make them compitable with each other. Complemantery colors are used to make certain impacts or sharp looking designs. So actually they dont work together and that's what attract the eye. I under line again, they have to be used together to make the ''complementary color'' effect. If you put a shade of blue on one side and put orange on the other, would simply not accomplish what the theory is suggesting.


If you want to talk about "actually", actually complementary colors are used in design to make both colors appear lighter when they are placed side by side (a trick of our retinas). In traditional art, complementary colors are used as shadows and darker areas of one color (instead of black) to produce that same "lightening" effect, which is increased even more in traditional art because you assume a black was used in the shadows but upon closer inspection, you will see the complementary color instead.

Since i'm talking with somebody smart enough to know some things, I will explain more in-depth to what I was trying to say:

With Web 2.0 design fully taking over, web designs like these are very common. Shades of the orange and blue here are very common to be shown on a pure black, a darker grey, or a pure white, or a black-grey gradient, then placed with (usually) some diagonal lines (of a more contrasting color). This works visually because both colors are sufficiently located in mid spectrum of both white and black, so contrast is never a problem. A very big part of this trend is to use complementary colors on this either dark or light background probably for that same reason. Same goes with these combos: lime green and darker orange, blue-purple and peach, maroon and yellow. Colors also very popular in this trend is the use of Cyan, Magenta, and Yellow; again exploiting their intensity of contrast on both the black and white.

In short: i'm saying it works because it's trendy and design-common.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm actually redoing it as a lighter color theme. Here's what I have so far.
[img:4a13a2184a]http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/6297/layout3hm0.png[/img:4a13a2184a]
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drath wrote:
In short: i'm saying it works because it's trendy and design-common.


Hmm. Well you see. Though the design theory suggests that these colors attracts the eye for they are complete oppositely of each other, this simply does not make/give the Complementary effect just because they were both used in an document (example : This design).

I dont know whether you had any GD classes but you ll see that , though their combination would result in either dark or light shades (such as white or black). They are never to be bind or connected through them in any design. Usually you really have to connect them physically or make a illusion effect to combine them, to give a proper effect. All im trying to underline here is , just because they are named like that , would simply not make them complementery colours.

Its like you got the powder, you got the metal. But if you wont combine them, you cant get a bulet. I hope i did manage to explain it Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 7:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Design thoery" doesn't really actually say anything. There's lots to design theory, simply stating that doesn't mean anything to me really (be more specific). Furthermore, I try to take any artistic theories with a pinch of salt since they are incredibly perceptual and rely little on actual science and more on taste and traditional.

However, in real science (not thoeritical) color science in particular: the complementary colors are the exact invert in the color spectrum. For example, if you stare at a red block on your screen for 30 seconds without blinking, then view a pure white block, you will see a cyan block of color (the complementary color of red); this isn't measured out of nothing, it's visual.

Wikipedia wrote:
The use of complementary colors is an important aspect of aesthetically pleasing art and graphic design. This also extends to other fields such as contrasting colors in logos and retail display. When placed next to each other, complements make each other appear brighter.


Which is exactly how my design instructor put it while he showed us slides of the colors being placed together, and then apart.

Looking back in one of my introduction art books I see something you have been discribing. Colors that don't work together, in the book, these are called "Discord" or "Color Discord", it states that is is the only type of mixture of colors that do not work together, the rest do (including Tertiaries, Monochromatics, Analogoues, Complementaries, and yes, even Split Complementaries). This site has a little more on it:

http://www.sallygentieuwelch.com/pages/Color.html

But really, it's all just subjective still. Opinions differ because it's not actually a law, it's just our guess based on popular opinion and tradtion.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 05, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

drath wrote:
"Design thoery" doesn't really actually say anything. There's lots to design theory, simply stating that doesn't mean anything to me really (be more specific). Furthermore, I try to take any artistic theories with a pinch of salt since they are incredibly perceptual and rely little on actual science and more on taste and traditional.

However, in real science (not thoeritical) color science in particular: the complementary colors are the exact invert in the color spectrum. For example, if you stare at a red block on your screen for 30 seconds without blinking, then view a pure white block, you will see a cyan block of color (the complementary color of red); this isn't measured out of nothing, it's visual.

Which is exactly how my design instructor put it while he showed us slides of the colors being placed together, and then apart.

Looking back in one of my introduction art books I see something you have been discribing. Colors that don't work together, in the book, these are called "Discord" or "Color Discord", it states that is is the only type of mixture of colors that do not work together, the rest do (including Tertiaries, Monochromatics, Analogoues, Complementaries, and yes, even Split Complementaries)



Okey, by theory , we can take the Complementary colors and all the things you've counted up above as an example.

The science of colours are going as far as which colour blends with what and whats the general feeling that color makes you feel when you gaze in to it.
''Complementary colours ''and ''Tertiaries'' and many other way of choosing colours out of color wheel is accepted as scientific not because they are done in labs but just because they use squares or triangles and even rulers to go and find the direct oposite of the value you have in the colour triangle. So we are putting RULES in to the DESIGN

Putting anything as systematical as this in to the world of design would simply make them not design and just something else. In this case, they say its science. For design is actually like chaos. There is no up, no down,as well as left nor right. Everything can be anything and so on and so on...

The colours are the base of this chaos. (so there is a base as well as and end; which is YOU -as the person who tries to shape this chaos). And the way to use them (as we state abowe) are not actually strictly written but losely underlined.

Therefore we can accept that the blue's opposite is actually yellow in color science (if we are talking about complementary colours). Yet . the phrase ''complementary colour'' is not just opposite of blue is yellow. Its the general idea that opposite colours are the way to attract attention when they are used together.

So as the gunpowder and the bullet example, if you wont just work on them and just put a shade of them ,here and there. That alone would not make them Complementary colours. They are just blue and yellow. When you combine them and merge them and let them crash each other or border each other; than you'll have what we refer as complementary colours.

drath wrote:

But really, it's all just subjective still. Opinions differ because it's not actually a law, it's just our guess based on popular opinion and tradtion.


And we have a winner Smile
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