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Jacky
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| The Grinch wrote: | i don't think it had anything to do with any sort of technology, at least not as the trigger.
Seemed to be a religious family and the kid was kept sheltered. alot of them people always turn out to be out of reality and weird. |
You got people making a massacre after a game of Counter-Strike.
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Brute
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I don't think you can really point fingers at anyone here. There are many parents who don't like games such as Halo 3, not just religious people. I mean, most don't seem to care what type of games their kids are playing when they're a teenager, but some do. I'm sure his parents wouldn't buy the game for him, so this teenager used his own money to buy the game since he is 17 and probably has a job or used birthday money or something to get it. If he was the kind of kid who respected their parents wishes (at least to a certain extent) this wouldn't have happened because he wouldn't have bought the game. I don't know, am I making any kind of point here? I think I'm just rambling now 
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The Grinch
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| Jacky wrote: | | The Grinch wrote: | i don't think it had anything to do with any sort of technology, at least not as the trigger.
Seemed to be a religious family and the kid was kept sheltered. alot of them people always turn out to be out of reality and weird. |
You got people making a massacre after a game of Counter-Strike. |
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| Brute wrote: | | I don't think you can really point fingers at anyone here. There are many parents who don't like games such as Halo 3, not just religious people. I mean, most don't seem to care what type of games their kids are playing when they're a teenager, but some do. I'm sure his parents wouldn't buy the game for him, so this teenager used his own money to buy the game since he is 17 and probably has a job or used birthday money or something to get it. If he was the kind of kid who respected their parents wishes (at least to a certain extent) this wouldn't have happened because he wouldn't have bought the game. I don't know, am I making any kind of point here? I think I'm just rambling now |
I was agreeing with you until you said "If he was the kind of kid who respected their parents wishes...". If his parents didn't want to buy him the game, but he was of age and decided to buy it himself with his own money. That's fair game in my opinion. Obviously it depends on if the mom specifically forbid him from even buying it for himself, but still..
Either way, this kid sounds like he was a whackjob from the get-go. Something a game wouldn't have made any worse or better.
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| The Grinch wrote: | | Seemed to be a religious family and the kid was kept sheltered. alot of them people always turn out to be out of reality and weird. |
So your generalizing that kids raised in sheltered religious environments tend to be separated from reality and weird?
First it is just wrong to generalize a group like this.
Second most people raised in this type of setting actually learn respect for their adults and have been taught by their parents that their are consequences for your actions. This means that the majority of kids raised like this would have never shot their parents. |
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Jacky
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| The Grinch wrote: | | Jacky wrote: | | The Grinch wrote: | i don't think it had anything to do with any sort of technology, at least not as the trigger.
Seemed to be a religious family and the kid was kept sheltered. alot of them people always turn out to be out of reality and weird. |
You got people making a massacre after a game of Counter-Strike. |
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Some has linked the school massacres that happened in the last few years to online games, and particularly Counter-Strike since it's popular.
This can be true.
Yesterday I was watching this Jackie Chan film on TV and he was seen jumping out of a window. I have been playing BF2 lately and at that time I was thinking "pull the parachute, quick!" but I quickly recovered from that thinking.
| mcwkm wrote: | | The Grinch wrote: | | Seemed to be a religious family and the kid was kept sheltered. alot of them people always turn out to be out of reality and weird. |
So your generalizing that kids raised in sheltered religious environments tend to be separated from reality and weird?
First it is just wrong to generalize a group like this.
Second most people raised in this type of setting actually learn respect for their adults and have been taught by their parents that their are consequences for your actions. This means that the majority of kids raised like this would have never shot their parents. |
I don't know what you deem as "religious family" but I grow up in a family with a very strong belief in religion, and yes things like killing your parents will never happen.
I also learnt about respect and that I have to pay the consequences for my own actions. My mother has never shielded me if I did anything wrong, that's how I matured.
It may be also due to strong religion beliefs that has been taught to me sing young that I managed to recover from a rebellious state once.
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| Jacky wrote: | | The Grinch wrote: | | Jacky wrote: | | The Grinch wrote: | i don't think it had anything to do with any sort of technology, at least not as the trigger.
Seemed to be a religious family and the kid was kept sheltered. alot of them people always turn out to be out of reality and weird. |
You got people making a massacre after a game of Counter-Strike. |
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Some has linked the school massacres that happened in the last few years to online games, and particularly Counter-Strike since it's popular.
This can be true. |
It is ridiculous to suggest that video games would just set someone off one day and start killing people. The worst school massacre in US history happened well before video games:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_school_disaster
Video games are just a scapegoat, just like people use violent music (Marilyn Manson) or violent movies. They just look for something to blame because they can't accept the fact that maybe the perpetrators of the killings had serious mental issues. No sane person would just play a video game, see a movie or listen to music and then just get an idea to go out and kill people.
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| Quote: | | Video games are just a scapegoat, just like people use violent music (Marilyn Manson) or violent movies. They just look for something to blame because they can't accept the fact that maybe the perpetrators of the killings had serious mental issues. No sane person would just play a video game, see a movie or listen to music and then just get an idea to go out and kill people. |
I agree. Too many people just love to find scapegoats, instead of actually blaming it on the real cause: mental issues. Many people go unchecked, and then problems happen. But instead of the parents blaming themselves for not getting their kid checked, they have to blame anything else. It's just stupid and ignorant.
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