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mcwkm
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| Quote: | How would you like to buy a Mac for US$399.99? Well, it's sort of a Mac. It's called OpenMac, it's made by Pystar and it's essentially a PC, with PC parts, that runs like a Mac - only quicker.
OpenMac comes with a 2.2GHz Intel Core 2 Duo CPU, 250GB of hard drive space, 2GB of RAM, 4 USB ports and, most importantly, it can run OSX Leopard. You can even get an upgrade to an NVIDIA GeForce 8600GT graphics card for an extra US$110 so you can game on it too. How about them, Apple?
Now, this kind of "Hackintosh", as they're known, isn't entirely new. There's many a bod out there with a soldering iron and room full of chips who've done this kind of thing before. The difference here is that Pystar has got the balls to sell these right under Steve Jobs' nose.
It's hard to see where Pystar's legal leg to stand on lies seeing as the Leopard user agreement quite clearly states:
"You agree not to install, use or run the Apple Software on any non-Apple-labeled computer, or to enable others to do so."
Perhaps they've got 10,000 OpenMacs ready to go, a Swiss bank account and a hideout on the Moon but it's hard to see how Apple aren't going to be all over Pystar like a cheap suit.
Not only will Jobs & Co want to stop the undercutting but why not grab a little easy money while they're at it and give their legal team something else to do other than play Minesweeper?
Even if Apple does let this pass - and God knows why they would - it's worth noting that Leopard updates are not really possible for the OpenMac. We're told that most updates are not not-safe but some are decidedly not safe. Confidence inspiring stuff. |
http://techdigest.tv/2008/04/how_would_you_l.html
I found it interesting to see all the reports of how they know it is against the EULA and claim they will produce and sell these until a court tells them to stop.
Personally I think Apple would benefit by allowing the use of other hardware besides theyre own. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 6:06 am Post subject: Re: OpenMac |
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| mcwkm wrote: |
I found it interesting to see all the reports of how they know it is against the EULA and claim they will produce and sell these until a court tells them to stop. |
Not strange, there has been no proof that an EULA is actually a contract. I don't think Apple would stand a chance in court.
| mcwkm wrote: | | Personally I think Apple would benefit by allowing the use of other hardware besides theyre own. |
I don't think so. Apple computers seem to be unreasonably expensive. If cheaper computers would also run Mac OSX, I think most people would rather buy the cheap pc.
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| Posted: Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:10 am Post subject: Re: OpenMac |
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| mcwkm wrote: | | Personally I think Apple would benefit by allowing the use of other hardware besides theyre own. |
I don't think so. Apple computers seem to be unreasonably expensive. If cheaper computers would also run Mac OSX, I think most people would rather buy the cheap pc. |
They would benefit from having higher market share less people may buy their hardware but more people would buy their software and result in having more people using their products. |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:51 am Post subject: Re: OpenMac |
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| mcwkm wrote: | | spock wrote: |
| mcwkm wrote: | | Personally I think Apple would benefit by allowing the use of other hardware besides theyre own. |
I don't think so. Apple computers seem to be unreasonably expensive. If cheaper computers would also run Mac OSX, I think most people would rather buy the cheap pc. |
They would benefit from having higher market share less people may buy their hardware but more people would buy their software and result in having more people using their products. |
True. But I'm not sure if the higher software sales would be enough to compensate for the loss of hardware sales. (Especially because I have the feeling they make a lot of their profit on their hardware. )
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| spock wrote: | | I don't think so. Apple computers seem to be unreasonably expensive. If cheaper computers would also run Mac OSX, I think most people would rather buy the cheap pc. |
The problem here is that the Mac is a completely different hardware system compared to the Mac so it wouldn't be easy to port Mac to the PC. I don't know if this is still true (I'm not a Mac expert) but the Mac used to be based on the Motorola 68000 series of microprocessor and not the Intel x86 series as the modern PC still are (only now their called ia32 or ia64).
However, Mac OSX is a Unix clone like Linux and as such they may be (mostly) compatible at the source code level. In fact, software written any Unix clone will run on Mac OSX with really only minor adjustment once compiled natively. The reverse may not be true but I don't see why this couldn't be possible. At the source code level if it's just a matter of differences in the API some sort of interface library may only need to be written.
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The problem here is that the Mac is a completely different hardware system compared to the Mac so it wouldn't be easy to port Mac to the PC. I don't know if this is still true (I'm not a Mac expert) but the Mac used to be based on the Motorola 68000 series of microprocessor and not the Intel x86 series as the modern PC still are (only now their called ia32 or ia64). |
The new Macs are based on a normal Intel CPU.
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Indeed. The Macs have been based on the Intel Architecture CPUs for a year or two now.
I don't know whether it'd be good to run Mac OS on another PC. Sure, I'd like to try it, and not have to pay through the nose for hardware worth much less than that. (The only Mac that is remotely worth buying at the moment are the Macbooks (not the Pros), which I probably wouldn't want to buy anyway).
But yeah, I'm of the belief that it was a scam... I wonder how it went  |
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| Article's have been posted that units have shipped proving it is not a hoax. |
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You could build your own mac now though since they stepped over to intel. Some parts are somewhat hard to find but shouldn't require real hacks to get it to work.
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| apple may be furious about it. |
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People who did order their OpenMacs did in fact get their shipments, as Gizmodo has been following them very closely, but in general the whole company is very sketchy. You'd be better off building your own computer, as you'd be able to pick quality parts instead of the cheapo stuff that goes into these systems.
Verdict is: Avoid, even though it's not a scam... yet.
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| Xtreme $niper wrote: | People who did order their OpenMacs did in fact get their shipments, as Gizmodo has been following them very closely, but in general the whole company is very sketchy. You'd be better off building your own computer, as you'd be able to pick quality parts instead of the cheapo stuff that goes into these systems.
Verdict is: Avoid, even though it's not a scam... yet. |
The point is some people are not capable of building their own computers let alone picking out parts that will be compatible with OSx86 so it is an option instead of apple brand at the moment. |
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| mcwkm wrote: | | Xtreme $niper wrote: | People who did order their OpenMacs did in fact get their shipments, as Gizmodo has been following them very closely, but in general the whole company is very sketchy. You'd be better off building your own computer, as you'd be able to pick quality parts instead of the cheapo stuff that goes into these systems.
Verdict is: Avoid, even though it's not a scam... yet. |
The point is some people are not capable of building their own computers let alone picking out parts that will be compatible with OSx86 so it is an option instead of apple brand at the moment. |
Their own PCs that they are currently running right now could also be considered an option, too. When the whole OSx86 project started I installed OS X on my desktop PC and it worked great. It wasn't as easy to install as it is today, but it was worth it. But guess what? It was what convinced me to finally get a Mac, and a few months later I was the owner of a Macbook.
Let's face it, if you want a Mac you can't skimp out. Get a Mac.
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