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martinz
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:01 am    Post subject: Paid or Free or Owned Hosting Reply with quote

Just to seek comments here. Most people says free hosting is good if you have a small site, but there are limited features. To get around the limitations, setting up your own server is one option to consider, unless you have uncle scrooge running your ISP. All is needed is to grab all those old spare computer parts, get rid of the cob webs and run your own server. The downside to this is that you must ensure that you have a public ip and that you have a static ip, other wise it just creates a pain setting things up. The nice thing about it... well you can have as much freedom with stuff like php configuration etc, mysql configs etc. If it's your first try... DON"T PUT PRIVATE MATERIAL OR IMPORTANT stuff on the site. If you are not very familiar with linux intrusion prevention and configuration... chances are that you WILL get hacked or used for spam but that just teaches you how to better protect your server in the future.
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Xtreme $niper
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My ISP is run by uncle scrooge.

No, really. Last I checked, no servers are to be run on my home internet connection. Not sure they'd care unless you started pushing a lot of bandwidth though.
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ClickFanatic
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't run a server locally, but I recently got a new ADSL modem/router which has a Dynamic DNS feature.
This means that if you are registered at a site such as dyndns.org (they point a web address to your IP), it automatically updates your external IP. So it is not necessary to request a static IP and it is not difficult to keep the dynamic one up-to-date.
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Pardo88
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 03, 2008 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer paid or free hosting (also, paid my own hosting just posting is a good way, hehehe).

It also depends, because sometimes the free hosting service is really bad (fortunely, Lifeless People is not the case). In that situation, the paid hosting is the best option, but just with a good service provider.
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krt
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pardo88, you are far too optimistic. While I and other long time members can vouch for this hosting provider, the past few months have been a significant blip, at least by L2P's standards.
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spock
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually used free hosts for quite some time. However, for about a year now, all my really important sites are all hosted at a paid webhost.

I also hosted a few things on my own server, an old 350mghz win98 laptop which was hosted at a friend's house. However, it was actually more down than up. Silly
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ClickFanatic
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't have put Win98 on it in the first place. It's network features suck and it's definitely much more vulnerable than any later version of Windows (except ME, I suppose). You should have put a lightweight Linux distro on it, instead.
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Xtreme $niper
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 05, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha Windows 98 as a server platform. That was a good laugh, thanks! =D

Naw but I can see why you might use it... If the hard drive space is really small and you can't dual boot it but you don't wanna lose Windows...

We'll go with that excuse.
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LP-SolidRaven
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 4:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ClickFanatic wrote:
You shouldn't have put Win98 on it in the first place. It's network features suck and it's definitely much more vulnerable than any later version of Windows (except ME, I suppose). You should have put a lightweight Linux distro on it, instead.


Try server 2003, it runs smooth, has useless features of XP removed and MSIE is blocked by default!
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slater110
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2008 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah server 2003 is an amazing system.
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seren
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of my hosting is paid. I wouldn't go for running my own hosting at home as I'm not really smart enough for that. And it's a wee bit too risky, with all the numbwits and hackers and such. It's easier to let someone else take the risks!
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spock
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 5:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ClickFanatic wrote:
You shouldn't have put Win98 on it in the first place. It's network features suck and it's definitely much more vulnerable than any later version of Windows (except ME, I suppose). You should have put a lightweight Linux distro on it, instead.

I know. But that was several years ago. At that time I just started experimenting a little bit with Linux. Windows 98 was the only platform I knew a lot about (and I used it everywhere).

If I would want to do the same thing now I would definitely go for Linux.

LP-SolidRaven wrote:

Try server 2003, it runs smooth, has useless features of XP removed and MSIE is blocked by default!

I don't think it'll run smooth on a 350 MHz laptop with 64M of ram. Silly
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ClickFanatic
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 6:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spock wrote:
LP-SolidRaven wrote:

Try server 2003, it runs smooth, has useless features of XP removed and MSIE is blocked by default!

I don't think it'll run smooth on a 350 MHz laptop with 64M of ram. Silly

Smooth... like concrete. Wink
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marinaroz
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 7:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think running a server from home is a very good option, unless you have a good computer and decent connection and really know your stuff. A friend once shown me a site of a guy he knows who hosted it on his PC. It was terribly slow. Most likely can't handle more than several people online at once. I bet it would work even worse if accessed from another country. Just don't do it.

I never used paid hosting, though I would probably get it if my site exceeded what I'm offered here. Which it does not. Not even close.
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ClickFanatic
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marinaroz wrote:
I don't think running a server from home is a very good option, unless you have a good computer and decent connection and really know your stuff. A friend once shown me a site of a guy he knows who hosted it on his PC. It was terribly slow. Most likely can't handle more than several people online at once. I bet it would work even worse if accessed from another country. Just don't do it.

I never used paid hosting, though I would probably get it if my site exceeded what I'm offered here. Which it does not. Not even close.

Perhaps a webserver is not a very good idea. But I can imagine that it is very convenient to run your own Subversion server (for instance) to collaborate on projects with a couple of friends. The server load is minimal, but you save a lot of money.
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