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M0ose
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 Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2008 11:28 am Post subject: Recent works: Feb 03, 2008 |
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Here are my most recent works to date, oldest to newest. Please read the description/notes I put under each sig, then give me some words of wisdom.
[img:dd91042d32]http://wna.com.ru/img/emajin1.gif[/img:dd91042d32]
I made this as a first attempt for a member. I had nothing to work with but a name. I tried to layer in some different effects, and some hidden elements that would be noticed only upon closer inspection. Though it looks good, I personally think there is too much dead space.
[img:dd91042d32]http://wna.com.ru/img/whisper.gif[/img:dd91042d32]
This is the second attempt for a forum member after having some more to work with. I don't like this sig too much, as I'm not a fan of the center usage of the faded out block. However, it does go good, but it really breaks up the image in a bad way, personally.
[img:dd91042d32]http://wna.com.ru/sig/msig55.gif[/img:dd91042d32]
I made this shortly after the second attempt at the user's sig and took the idea of the faded block and reversed it. I like this sig very much, but I personally don't like how much dead space there is, and I feel I could have done better in filling the void.
[img:dd91042d32]http://wna.com.ru/sig/msig56.gif[/img:dd91042d32]
This is my most recent sig. It uses a render-turned-brush of the Insane Clown Posse Jokers Card of The Ringmaster. The text effect I was trying for was that of reference to old horror movie titles. I again used the faded block to give the text some leaning room so that it wasn't just placed there. The yellow and black colors are also the colors of the Jokers card and makes a reference to such.
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Well, tell me what you think. Do you agree with how I see it, or what?
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It seems like most if not all of your work features horizontal or vertical rules in them, or some type of border. You always use one color in your signatures which give them a very amateur feeling. To me it looks like you made a composition in your normal manner, then just made a color overlay on everythign to give it some color; which I guess is fine in a certain sense, but it gets a little stale in my opinion.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying these are bad, but what I am instead saying is they are quite boring, or uninspiring, simply because of the coloring. Your last one (your current sig) could be quite a departure from your normal style, but you used the same color technique you always use making it look fairly bland.
Mix it up, use more than one color, use elements you would never use, expirment. Again, not saying they are bad, just telling you try to go outside your comfort level.
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You should try looking at some colour schemes, it seems that all of your sigs are based on only one colour.
And try to move away from depending on brushes as the base of your sig. It just makes them look a little boring. Try finding some stock images and use them, or have a look through deviantart for some inspiration, find something you like and try to fashion your own graphics with that style, but not copying it entirely of course.
And always read tutorials. Look for them on google or stumble, just keep reading tutorials and try different techniques. |
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| drath wrote: | It seems like most if not all of your work features horizontal or vertical rules in them, or some type of border. You always use one color in your signatures which give them a very amateur feeling. To me it looks like you made a composition in your normal manner, then just made a color overlay on everythign to give it some color; which I guess is fine in a certain sense, but it gets a little stale in my opinion.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying these are bad, but what I am instead saying is they are quite boring, or uninspiring, simply because of the coloring. Your last one (your current sig) could be quite a departure from your normal style, but you used the same color technique you always use making it look fairly bland.
Mix it up, use more than one color, use elements you would never use, expirment. Again, not saying they are bad, just telling you try to go outside your comfort level. |
The main idea for these four were to see what I could do by using the ideas of borders, lines, and such like that. I usually give an attempt at something like that to see if I would like to incorporate it more with my future work. Which since this was my first time using them in a serious manner, and really trying to see how they effected the overall image, it was more of an experiment.
As for the color, I can see your point. A lot of the reason I do one color is because the color is usually my mood, or some other factor, while doing the image.
Also, outside my comfort level isn't to bad. Just, I think a lot of the stuff people try to pull looks like carbon copied ****.  So I do tend to stay inside the bounds of what I actually enjoy looking at. I see no sense in making an image that I don't enjoy using. Though, experimentation isn't lost to me, I do experiment, but for things that I am going to use, or that I am making for someone else, I make sure to stick to what I know.
| desertray wrote: | You should try looking at some colour schemes, it seems that all of your sigs are based on only one colour.
And try to move away from depending on brushes as the base of your sig. It just makes them look a little boring. Try finding some stock images and use them, or have a look through deviantart for some inspiration, find something you like and try to fashion your own graphics with that style, but not copying it entirely of course.
And always read tutorials. Look for them on google or stumble, just keep reading tutorials and try different techniques. |
I used to not be such a brush hound, and I can see your point. I do a bit more work on the underside then yo can see though. So, I still haven't gone away from my roots of being Anti-Brush. Just, from the finish point, you can quite see it in all of my works. Still, I know where you're coming from. But, again, these were more tests of a feature as I stated above, plus, like I didn't say above, boredom limits my technique. For example, if I'm bored, I'll make an image, but if I'm just looking to make a little one to keep fresh, I won't use a tutorial, instead, I'll use my mind, which does hold quite a few different styles, just recently, out of ease and looks, I've stuck with this sort of style.
Also, about the colors, I will admit that they are boring, mainly, when they are looked at as a whole, and not as a single image. Also, I'm not much of a fan of to many colors. There is a time and a place for multi colors, and a lot of the times, I just don't like the feel.
Also, I'm wondering what you mean about stock images. Use them as renders, or what? Because, I do use renders, just not as often as everything else. IF you look back at more of my other images, you can see that beyond these four, there is a bit more of a use of renders and more of a focal point. Again, these four were more tests then anything.
But for example, if you were to look back at my trilogy sigs, Dream, Explore and Maintain (Thread can be found Here), they each held a theme of their own, and then a theme to the three works. Most of my images are like that, except instead of working together as one, they work on their own themes per image, and if that idea or feeling that I have when working requires a render, then I'll use it. But I won't just use one and throw it in there for nothing. To many people do that, and to many people do that bad. The images should be you, and a representation of what you feel and wish to see. Not just a piece of digital paper with no emotion.
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| Posted: Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:20 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, I do understand where you are coming from.
But now looking at the signature that you have now opens up new worlds in terms of imagery and color in your work. I may not even like the placement, or the colors speperately; but together the new image in your signature is 10000 times more interesting than most of your stuff, because you are jutaxposing different, unknown, ambiguous elements, and creating an unbalance of colors that clash, but somehow work together in your composition. Because of this reason, your new signature is awesome.
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| drath wrote: | Yes, I do understand where you are coming from.
But now looking at the signature that you have now opens up new worlds in terms of imagery and color in your work. I may not even like the placement, or the colors speperately; but together the new image in your signature is 10000 times more interesting than most of your stuff, because you are jutaxposing different, unknown, ambiguous elements, and creating an unbalance of colors that clash, but somehow work together in your composition. Because of this reason, your new signature is awesome. |
Yeah, I completely see what you mean. My new sig almost feels lively compared to the others. I don't know why I like it so much, but it is defiantly an interesting look.
Plus, I tried something I hadn't. since I use many different layers, I realized that a lot of the same techniques I use for other images, like my Myspace background, can be used for sigs. So by selecting only the area I want to change and effect, I can give the image a different feel.
Though, the colors are quite clashing, somehow it kind of works.
Also, in light of this thread being looked at after the changing of my sig, it will be attached at the bottom of this post.
So yeah, thanks for the feed back. Do you have any ideas that I might be able to put to use? I'm always looking for inspiration and stuff.
[img:fe89e46c87]http://wna.com.ru/sig/msig57.gif[/img:fe89e46c87]
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Well if you want to get into it. The seperate images are fighting at odds right now because it's not blending enough (the gradient transition is not long enough from images). You could also try to opposite, instead of having a transition at all; use just seperate the images using no blending at all. The second choice will most definately look odd, and probably pretty bad, but it might work if done right.
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| drath wrote: | | Well if you want to get into it. The seperate images are fighting at odds right now because it's not blending enough (the gradient transition is not long enough from images). You could also try to opposite, instead of having a transition at all; use just seperate the images using no blending at all. The second choice will most definately look odd, and probably pretty bad, but it might work if done right. |
Yeah, I must agree with the transition. I think a lot of it is how you look at it. I've been doing a few more attempts at different things, and if you look at this image as a ground breaker for my personal improvement, then you can see what exactly it's doing to push me forward. Other then that, if you were to just see it, it's kinda just a colorful smash-up.
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You know looking through your work I've noticed that the first one was decent. The main thing I notice throughout these is there is a ton of dead space in these. I looked at your signature right now and I think that was pretty decent because the design of it was really good. As for the first three you showed, I found myself not very much liking them because seemed to be lacking something while I looked at your ringmaster one there and found myself like the design and the look of the graphic.
So I think the more you use in a graphic the better it looks to me. The wasted space was really what got to me. It was good work, it's just that wasn't so eye catching. Especially in the black one. I wasn't all that impressed with that one. Other than that your signature now and the ringmaster was the best. |
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