Rock Band and Guitar Hero 3

[Lyth]

My mistake, the drumset in Rock Band does have a bass pedal, but it still doesn't look anything like a drumset.

[drath]

I can't believe how far this fad has gone. In my opinion it's a slightly more trendy version of Dance Dance Revolution. I really don't get the point of playing fake notes (buttons) on a fake guitar (plastic) on a fake string (trigger button). Why not just learn how to actually play a guitar, learn some real songs, gain some real skill instead of pressing buttons.

Atleast DDR actually promoted dancing in a fundamental way by teaching steps and gaining dexterity in your feet and reaction time. While Guitar Hero probably does improve your reaction time pressing corresponding buttons, it doesn't actually compare to actually playing a guitar in which it is mimicing.

However when looking at Rock Band. It does seem a little more realistic in terms of the instruments, especially for the drums. I think there might actually be some credits to the drumming aspect considering hitting the pads with sticks will actually improve your timing and dexterity in drumming. But really, it still doesn't compare to the real thing.
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[Rob1981]

[Myst]

It's not a fad. It's a different genre of video game. For a long time, video games have been about getting into the game. Playing it for extended periods of time, and learning the skills needed to beat the game at the higher levels.

While these games still have that, they have diverged slightly, so that anyone can pick up and play it. Give someone who has never played Guitar Hero before a go, and within 30 seconds they'll be hitting notes consistently (this happened in my dorm a couple of weeks ago).

Guitar Hero is as big as it is because each 'go' is fairly short, you can have 5-6 people in a room and everyone can have a go, egg each other on, whatever. Not only is it fun to play, but it's fun to watch too, and listen.

This is just another genre which is, at the moment, developing quite fast in the video game industry, and I, for one, am enjoying it.

[Xtreme $niper]

Arrgghh, another one of those "why don't you get a life and play real guitar" arguments...

It's simple, and it's been answered so many different times. Guitar Hero is not meant to be a real guitar replacement. People who play real guitar go on guitar hero, and they suck at it. People who play guitar hero go on a real guitar, and they suck at it. They are different, they are separate, and the only thing they have in relation to one another is the shape of the controller, and the strum bar / whammy bar.

Guitar Hero is connected to a gaming console, which gives you feedback on how you are gaming:

If you get a note streak, awesome! It tells you that.
If you got a high score, awesome! It tells you that.
If you have star power, you can use it to get higher scores.
You can play co-op to get higher scores.
You can compare scores to see who is the better Guitar Hero player.
You can play along to real songs, vocals and drums, and all.
You can go online and dual or play along with someone half way around the world.

These are all nifty things Guitar Hero can do, and that's all some people need. If the game encourages someone to get a real guitar and start a band, then that's awesome.. But for their sake I hope they don't think they'll have any head start because they got a high score in a song in a game.

Saying Dance Dance Revolution is any better than Guitar Hero is just silly. What does DDR teach you? How to move your feet in four directions? What dance in real life would look like anything that people do in DDR? Again, there's a difference between a game and a "training machine", which you seem to think these games are supposed to be.

Sorry for the rant, it's just getting frustrating to see these people endlessly not getting the point of the game.
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[Pie32]

Guitar Hero (my opinion, anyways) is a lot easier than playing real guitar. After my first couple of songs I was already playing Hard (I never played enough to get to Expert difficulty). I can't even play easy songs on real guitar.

Guitar Hero is something that far more people can pick up and have fun with than a real guitar. In no way is it a replacement. An alternative, yes; replacement, no.
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[Scott]

I have never played a real guitar, but from what I have been told the finger movements are not as awkward on a real guitar as some songs are in Guitar Hero. People just like this game because they want to just start off playing good or popular songs, they don't want to take the time to practice the guitar.
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[Xtreme]

Okay, the comparison between Guitar Hero and playing guitar just needs to stop. Not just here, but everywhere. I know it's inevitable, but once you've done both, you'll realize that they have almost nothing in common. The skills required for one are almost totally distinct from the skills required for the other.

Playing Guitar Hero is simply NOT comparable to playing guitar. Not only is it "different," it's just not comparable. There's nothing remotely musical (fundamentally speaking) about playing Guitar Hero.

It's a fun, successful game. That's it. Going any further is tantamount to trying to make a link between Call of Duty and military service.

Garage Band will be less successful, I think. No one wants to buy a game they can't enjoy completely without a huge upfront investment. Not to mention that you simply can't get the total experience of the game without a handful of similarly interested friends at your disposal. Guitar Hero is a fun party game, but also perfectly fine by yourself. I think Garage Band isn't quite the same. I haven't played it, but that would be my guess.

[Lyth]

[coralvalley]

I have been wanting Guitar Hero 3 for a while and just got it. I actually love the new songs on it and thinks it's pretty great, I was excited for it to come out, it was just too bad I didn't get it faster. The new songs are pretty fun to play and it's a lot cooler than the last one in my opinion.

I haven't gotten a chance to play Rock Band, but that sounds extremely cool. I think that would be something that would be pretty fun to play considering all that you could do. I would imagine you would have to have a lot of free time to play that game and sadly I don't have that much. With what was said in the beginning, I would imagine that game would be quite expensive. If it would have drums, that would be so much cooler. I am more of a drums person myself and that already attracts me more, so I will definitely have to check that out.

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[drath]

You guys are right. Instead of playing games with situations that I could never possibly be in myself, or with story lines tied within a more fictional/fantasy route, I should throw away all that creativeness and pick myself of a fake guitar and just hit some buttons; that real guitar can just collect dust for all I care!

Down with the real way of doing things! I just want to have fun and promote my ego by getting a awesome score so I can brag to my friends and submit the video to YouTube to show how much I really kick-***.

Actually, this way of thinking is exactly how I stopped shooting people and stealing cars in real life. When I found out there was a game that simulated this, I just had to jump on that "band"-wagon! (pun intended)

WAIT! This gets me thinking. A drink simulation game! Instead of drinking in real life, why not simulate it in a game! Okay, so here's the pitch: The controller is essentially a cup, and it plugs in to your console (sold seperatly ofcourse, we need to milk every cent out of these kids). Now, here's the tricky part: You have to lift up the cup to your mouth and pretend to drink the contents. BUT DON'T GO TOO FAST! You might burp. But if you go too slow, that's also bad; you might make slurping sounds, and that isn't good for your score. Be careful how much you are drinking too. Don't get too bloated! Or don't get too dehydrated! -- Man, I am going to be a millionaire.
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[Rob1981]

[drath]

Don't get so bent out of shape. I'm just expressing my opinion, just like you are expressing yours. This is a forum where lots of different people come on and have different sets of ideologies, that's kind of the point. If we all had the same beliefs then this would be a pretty boring place.

It really is a two way road Rob. You say "People shouldn't have to agree with your views on Guitar Hero and other games.", then by that statement I shouldn't have to agree with other people's views. You call me immature and troll, but I am not baiting people into a flame war, I'm just expressing my opinion just like anybody else. I'm not calling anybody names. "People can like whatever they want", well I can also like whatever I want, and dislike whatever they want, and since this the advent of the internet, other people can hear it. Viva la techologie.

But now, what you did is create a completely off-topic argument. Let's get back to the point now instead of getting personal shall we?
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