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Jacky intel inside

Joined: 01 Jan 2005 Posts: 3794
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:30 am Post subject: Sales of Windows XP extended from 2008 till 2010 |
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I happened to chance upon the following article when SolidRaven posted it in the OS war thread.
http://www.itworld.com/Comp/22.....10-080403/
I personally support the idea of extending the sales deadline, since most of us who uses Windows are still on Windows XP (including me), since Windows Vista is either incompatible for most people or people don't prefer it (me for example).
And a few months ago I purchased the retail version of Windows XP Professional so that I can still install it even if the stores stopped providing it. I didn't have any retail version since my computers all came with Windows XP pre-installed, and they were mostly modified by the manufacturer.
What do you think of this extension?
Since this is a very sensitive issue, I hope Linux and Mac users don't hijack this thread. If you have a constructive comment, feel free to reply. If you just plainly hate Microsoft and their products, then just stay away. _________________ 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342
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SE13 Proud Londoner

Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Posts: 1669 Location: Wherever I Lay My Hat, That's My Home
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:19 am Post subject: |
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As I understand it, Vista is still quite unstable, much as ME was to 98. I will stick with XP anyway, as it is by far the best version I have ever seen.
So the news that they will still allow purchase for a couple more years pleases me, as I intend to replace my system completely within the next couple of years.
Good for Microsoft for doing this as well. _________________ It feels so empty without a signature, so here is some mindless gabble to occupy the space |
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ClickFanatic Est. 2005

Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 3980 Location: A particular geographic area
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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As it is now, it will take a long time before I switch to Vista. Driver support seems buggy, some games only work with patches and there might be some minor issues that I can't (and don't want to) mention right now. I simply refer to these problems as 'growing pains.'
That said, I think it's a good decision to extend support for Windows XP, but I hope MS will deal with the Vista issues quickly so consumers have something reliable to switch to once XP becomes more outdated. _________________ Captain Jell-O Buster from the Future
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mcwkm Grandmaster Poster

Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Location: ct
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| only reason to use windows vista lacks. microsoft sees new notebooks coming out not capable of running vista well so they are refusing to give up part of the market share. |
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Scar Lifeless Person

Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 6156 Location: Chuck Norris's nightmares.
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Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject: |
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People always say vista doesn't have good driver support, but that is totally untrue. AS with the situation with the Creative company. The company was purposely putting out bad vista drivers for its products so the users will have to buy the newer product, and there is a big fuss on their forums about this right now because a member started fixing their drivers for Vista. so it's really not a problem with Vista itself. It's the companies who create the products and arent updating them to work right vista.
I've been on vista for months now without one singe driver issue. all my parts were made for it and i love it.
I think that its a good idea to extend the deadline because by 2010 surely people will wiser up and/or the prices of the new hardware and gadgets will be much lower and easier to afford. My vista read pc was only around $500 or so so it wasnt much. get newer hardware for their pc that was actually designed for Vista. And then they'll notice that their previous Vista problems have faded away.
i also support the deadline because it's good to put old technology to rest at some point and continue with the new. _________________ http://www.snapcite.com | http://www.rootsOfevil.com | http://www.MJHQ.com |
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ClickFanatic Est. 2005

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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:24 am Post subject: |
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| Scar wrote: | | People always say vista doesn't have good driver support, but that is totally untrue. AS with the situation with the Creative company. The company was purposely putting out bad vista drivers for its products so the users will have to buy the newer product, and there is a big fuss on their forums about this right now because a member started fixing their drivers for Vista. so it's really not a problem with Vista itself. It's the companies who create the products and arent updating them to work right vista. |
It's a problem nonetheless, and a risk I am currently unwilling to take. _________________ Captain Jell-O Buster from the Future
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Scar Lifeless Person

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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 2:31 am Post subject: |
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| ClickFanatic wrote: | | Scar wrote: | | People always say vista doesn't have good driver support, but that is totally untrue. AS with the situation with the Creative company. The company was purposely putting out bad vista drivers for its products so the users will have to buy the newer product, and there is a big fuss on their forums about this right now because a member started fixing their drivers for Vista. so it's really not a problem with Vista itself. It's the companies who create the products and arent updating them to work right vista. |
It's a problem nonetheless, and a risk I am currently unwilling to take. |
i'm too tired or lost, or missed something. what is a problem? Upgrading to vista? _________________ http://www.snapcite.com | http://www.rootsOfevil.com | http://www.MJHQ.com |
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ClickFanatic Est. 2005

Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 3980 Location: A particular geographic area
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 3:19 am Post subject: |
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| Scar wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | | Scar wrote: | | People always say vista doesn't have good driver support, but that is totally untrue. AS with the situation with the Creative company. The company was purposely putting out bad vista drivers for its products so the users will have to buy the newer product, and there is a big fuss on their forums about this right now because a member started fixing their drivers for Vista. so it's really not a problem with Vista itself. It's the companies who create the products and arent updating them to work right vista. |
It's a problem nonetheless, and a risk I am currently unwilling to take. |
i'm too tired or lost, or missed something. what is a problem? Upgrading to vista? |
The driver support. _________________ Captain Jell-O Buster from the Future
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Scar Lifeless Person

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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:27 am Post subject: |
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| ClickFanatic wrote: | | Scar wrote: | | ClickFanatic wrote: | | Scar wrote: | | People always say vista doesn't have good driver support, but that is totally untrue. AS with the situation with the Creative company. The company was purposely putting out bad vista drivers for its products so the users will have to buy the newer product, and there is a big fuss on their forums about this right now because a member started fixing their drivers for Vista. so it's really not a problem with Vista itself. It's the companies who create the products and arent updating them to work right vista. |
It's a problem nonetheless, and a risk I am currently unwilling to take. |
i'm too tired or lost, or missed something. what is a problem? Upgrading to vista? |
The driver support. |
You wont upgrade to vista because of Driver support?
if your computer is old and wasnt designed for vista then i'd also suggest not to upgrade. _________________ http://www.snapcite.com | http://www.rootsOfevil.com | http://www.MJHQ.com |
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ClickFanatic Est. 2005

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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: |
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| Scar wrote: | | if your computer is old and wasnt designed for vista then i'd also suggest not to upgrade. |
My computer is not old (1 year) and I built it myself so I know what's in it.
However, after the release of SP1 for Vista I heard many complaints of people not getting the update despite having the latest drivers on "Vista compatible" hardware (you know the label). It would tell them their drivers were incompatible with the new service pack. These are situations that I do not like to be in, so I avoid them, even though I know my hardware should be able to handle Vista. _________________ Captain Jell-O Buster from the Future
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Scar Lifeless Person

Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 6156 Location: Chuck Norris's nightmares.
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Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 7:00 pm Post subject: |
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| ClickFanatic wrote: | | Scar wrote: | | if your computer is old and wasnt designed for vista then i'd also suggest not to upgrade. |
My computer is not old (1 year) and I built it myself so I know what's in it.
However, after the release of SP1 for Vista I heard many complaints of people not getting the update despite having the latest drivers on "Vista compatible" hardware (you know the label). It would tell them their drivers were incompatible with the new service pack. These are situations that I do not like to be in, so I avoid them, even though I know my hardware should be able to handle Vista. |
Well anyone can say anything on the net. Even though most of the time it isnt true.
All i can say is that i got sp1 offered to me a few weeks ago, and i downloaded and installed it without an error. _________________ http://www.snapcite.com | http://www.rootsOfevil.com | http://www.MJHQ.com |
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ClickFanatic Est. 2005

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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:47 am Post subject: |
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| Scar wrote: | | Well anyone can say anything on the net. Even though most of the time it isnt true. |
Well I can at least give you one verified fact and that is that SP1 is not available for Dutch versions of Windows Vista.
The complaints about driver problems are from the comments on the Vista blog, but as you said, anyone can say anything on the Internet. _________________ Captain Jell-O Buster from the Future
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spock iSpock

Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 2917 Location: The Netherlands
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:18 am Post subject: |
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| Scar wrote: | | People always say vista doesn't have good driver support, but that is totally untrue. |
I fix computers a lot. And I know lots of hardware stopped working with Vista, and that's a big problem with it. Not for me, I can make it work most of the time with alternate drivers. However, it's a really big problem for less technical users who just expect things to work. (And that's actually what users windows is meant for. )
And the fact it works for you is nice. And in fact it just works great on some hardware. But it's clear it's not working that great on every computer and it's clear a lot of older hardware fails. A few researches carried out by Dutch computer magazines showed there are more complaints about Vista than about XP when XP was released.
I think Vista is a really bad mistake, just like windows ME as somebody else already said.
It's true Vista has some new features and it definitely has it's strengths. But overall I find lots of people have all kinds of strange problems with it.
If you want to use it, and you like the way it works and you don't mind to fix strange things, it's ok. I guess I use linux for the same reasons. I really like it a lot, I like the philosophy a lot and I don't mind working to get hardware supported or problems fixed.
However, I guess Vista's quite a big fail for mainstream users. I can't wait for the next (I hope better) version of windows to be released. _________________ My new site
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mcwkm Grandmaster Poster

Joined: 30 Mar 2005 Posts: 322 Location: ct
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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:24 am Post subject: |
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I have yet to look into what windows 7 is suppose to be but as far as what vista is compared to what it was suppose to be when it was still being developed, it(vista) failed to deliver. Vista does just seem like another Me sure its a little different and in some cases better but overall its not that drastic of an improvement(besides looks) that it is worth upgrading from xp.
As far as compatibility goes with you can make vista run on older systems if you know what your doing but when you look at average windows users, they are hopeless when it comes to this. My old roommate had vista running on his 3 year old dell laptop not sure the specs but it was using pentium centrino i believe as a cpu, its not the hardware that is the problem, it is the user and the amount of work to get the slight improvements vista offers. |
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Scar Lifeless Person

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Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:38 am Post subject: |
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| spock wrote: | | Scar wrote: | | People always say vista doesn't have good driver support, but that is totally untrue. |
I fix computers a lot. And I know lots of hardware stopped working with Vista, and that's a big problem with it. Not for me, I can make it work most of the time with alternate drivers. However, it's a really big problem for less technical users who just expect things to work. (And that's actually what users windows is meant for. )
And the fact it works for you is nice. And in fact it just works great on some hardware. But it's clear it's not working that great on every computer and it's clear a lot of older hardware fails. A few researches carried out by Dutch computer magazines showed there are more complaints about Vista than about XP when XP was released.
I think Vista is a really bad mistake, just like windows ME as somebody else already said.
It's true Vista has some new features and it definitely has it's strengths. But overall I find lots of people have all kinds of strange problems with it.
If you want to use it, and you like the way it works and you don't mind to fix strange things, it's ok. I guess I use linux for the same reasons. I really like it a lot, I like the philosophy a lot and I don't mind working to get hardware supported or problems fixed.
However, I guess Vista's quite a big fail for mainstream users. I can't wait for the next (I hope better) version of windows to be released. |
**** here we go again with this stupid ****. _________________ http://www.snapcite.com | http://www.rootsOfevil.com | http://www.MJHQ.com |
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