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LP-SolidRaven
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| Scar wrote: | Well anyone can say anything on the net. Even though most of the time it isnt true.
All i can say is that i got sp1 offered to me a few weeks ago, and i downloaded and installed it without an error. |
That doesn't explain why many profesional reviewers didn't have a lot of good things to say about vista...
| Scar wrote: | | **** here we go again with this stupid ****. |
You started it in this thread scar.
Also the only new windows I'm willing to try out is server 2008. Cause I'm fairly sure all the useless crap that was in vista has been removed totally.
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Scar
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 11:53 am Post subject: |
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| SolidRaven wrote: | | Scar wrote: | Well anyone can say anything on the net. Even though most of the time it isnt true.
All i can say is that i got sp1 offered to me a few weeks ago, and i downloaded and installed it without an error. |
That doesn't explain why many profesional reviewers didn't have a lot of good things to say about vista...
| Scar wrote: | | **** here we go again with this stupid ****. |
You started it in this thread scar.
Also the only new windows I'm willing to try out is server 2008. Cause I'm fairly sure all the useless crap that was in vista has been removed totally. |
Or you're just an idiot that doesn't know what he's talkin about. Go read some more lame **** online and say its the truth you gullible idiot. All you **** do is paste the same stupid bs over and over again and ignore it if anyone says otherwise... if people that actually use vista say otherwise. So whats the god damn **** point?
Used to think you were at least semi-intelligent. Welcome to the internet. |
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Scar wrote: | Or you're just an idiot that doesn't know what he's talkin about. Go read some more lame **** online and say its the truth you gullible idiot. All you **** do is paste the same stupid bs over and over again and ignore it if anyone says otherwise... if people that actually use vista say otherwise. So whats the god damn **** point?
Used to think you were at least semi-intelligent. Welcome to the internet. |
The only argument you ever come up with is that you use Vista and therefore have a higher authority in Vista discussions than people who do not use it. Based on this fallacy you try to refute all the negative things that are said about Vista.
Sure Vista also has bright sides, but it also has many little compatibility issues. People who I know in real life, who use Vista, say so, and reports (both online and on paper) also confirm this.
These sources tell me a lot about Vista without me actually owning and using it. In fact, I am happy I didn't have to buy Vista to find out what would not work.
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mcwkm
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Or you're just an idiot that doesn't know what he's talkin about. Go read some more lame **** online and say its the truth you gullible idiot. All you **** do is paste the same stupid bs over and over again and ignore it if anyone says otherwise... if people that actually use vista say otherwise. So whats the god damn **** point?
Used to think you were at least semi-intelligent. Welcome to the internet. |
Your one person writing stuff online to contradict what tons of people write online. The point of online reviews is so smart people can read what other users are having problems with or are enjoying about the product. Sure vista works great in some cases but when a majority are complaining about problems they are having and when the majority is having problems your not going to run out and spend money on something that has high potential of causing you more headaches and the positives you may receive from it are small. |
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LP-SolidRaven
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:50 pm Post subject: |
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| Scar wrote: | Or you're just an idiot that doesn't know what he's talkin about. Go read some more lame **** online and say its the truth you gullible idiot. All you **** do is paste the same stupid bs over and over again and ignore it if anyone says otherwise... if people that actually use vista say otherwise. So whats the god damn **** point?
Used to think you were at least semi-intelligent. Welcome to the internet. |
You dare to talk to me about intelligence while you post a response like that... It's not what you say Scar, but how you say it.
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<bart416> I just realized something
<bart416> we celebrate the fact that this piece of rock made one rotation around a glowing ball of plasma that is kept together due to its own gravity well
<njsg> HAPPY NEW YEAR
<Easter> ^^
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Scar
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| Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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| mcwkm wrote: | | Scar wrote: |
Or you're just an idiot that doesn't know what he's talkin about. Go read some more lame **** online and say its the truth you gullible idiot. All you **** do is paste the same stupid bs over and over again and ignore it if anyone says otherwise... if people that actually use vista say otherwise. So whats the god damn **** point?
Used to think you were at least semi-intelligent. Welcome to the internet. |
Your one person writing stuff online to contradict what tons of people write online. The point of online reviews is so smart people can read what other users are having problems with or are enjoying about the product. Sure vista works great in some cases but when a majority are complaining about problems they are having and when the majority is having problems your not going to run out and spend money on something that has high potential of causing you more headaches and the positives you may receive from it are small. |
What i' am saying is that it'll work on a pc designed for it. If you try putting it on some old crappy pc it most likely will not work. how they hell are they going to fix problems if people want it to still work with old *** hardware which would be creating the problems in the first place? Think about it.
| SolidRaven wrote: | | Scar wrote: | Or you're just an idiot that doesn't know what he's talkin about. Go read some more lame **** online and say its the truth you gullible idiot. All you **** do is paste the same stupid bs over and over again and ignore it if anyone says otherwise... if people that actually use vista say otherwise. So whats the god damn **** point?
Used to think you were at least semi-intelligent. Welcome to the internet. |
You dare to talk to me about intelligence while you post a response like that... It's not what you say Scar, but how you say it. |
You want me to keep replying in a nice way to the same old garbage you keep posting that just isn't true. I told you many many posts ago that you just read this crap online, and have no real personal experience, and you said you didnt and that you helped some people with their computer (which i seriously doubt because i'd think you'd make it worse) and then you keep posting and talking about crap you read online by some people who are supposed to be Windows Geniuses. Obviously they aren't that damn bright if they can't get the OS to even work right.
I seriously doubt that i am just special person who some how got vista to work flawlessly. I seriously doubt it.
I even just installed a geforce 7800 gt gfx card, and it even works without an error on vista and its a few years old.
Intelligent people go by their own experiences and experiments and not read what other obviously biased people have written online.
I'm seriously getting annoyed that in order to even carry on in conversations with you we have to keep going over the same crap that we already went over, because you read another article online.
Jacky started this topic with the intention of windows users discussing this. Read the first post.
People can only tolerate stupid people for so long. I'm sorry but dude you are making your self look like an idiot. To anyone who goes over and re reads all that you have posted in the past week.
Maybe I look like an idiot for my attitude now. Do i care? Hell no you're annoying the **** out of me. Just trying to talk some sense into you. I've been biting my lip on this crap for a week now and haven't really replied.
I was just gonna start to ignore these topics, but today i woke up and had to re read the same **** you keep typing and i snapped, and i make no apologies. can only be civilized for so long when it comes with people posting false information over and over.
Do you want to come over and use my computer? And see how awesome vista really is? Maybe then you'd gain some actual real experience with vista. |
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mcwkm
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| Scar wrote: | | mcwkm wrote: | | Scar wrote: |
Or you're just an idiot that doesn't know what he's talkin about. Go read some more lame **** online and say its the truth you gullible idiot. All you **** do is paste the same stupid bs over and over again and ignore it if anyone says otherwise... if people that actually use vista say otherwise. So whats the god damn **** point?
Used to think you were at least semi-intelligent. Welcome to the internet. |
Your one person writing stuff online to contradict what tons of people write online. The point of online reviews is so smart people can read what other users are having problems with or are enjoying about the product. Sure vista works great in some cases but when a majority are complaining about problems they are having and when the majority is having problems your not going to run out and spend money on something that has high potential of causing you more headaches and the positives you may receive from it are small. |
What i' am saying is that it'll work on a pc designed for it. If you try putting it on some old crappy pc it most likely will not work. how they hell are they going to fix problems if people want it to still work with old *** hardware which would be creating the problems in the first place? Think about it.
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My core duo thinkpad is not vista certified yet it easily surpasses some of the pcs that vista comes preinstalled on so one would think that it could run vista without a problem. I have no desire to attempt it but it should have no problem running it. Microsoft basically prides itself on being backwards compatible with everything so why would vista not support hardware that has been supported in previous systems and meets the requirements of vista |
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LP-SolidRaven
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| Scar wrote: | | What i' am saying is that it'll work on a pc designed for it. If you try putting it on some old crappy pc it most likely will not work. how they hell are they going to fix problems if people want it to still work with old *** hardware which would be creating the problems in the first place? Think about it. |
News flash: Vista BSOD's in the case hardware it didn't expect is inserted or removed. In fact I tried hot swapping a SATA HD (and the SATA specifications allow that) earlier this week and vista crashed the moment I did that, even though windows said it was fine to disconnect it. That's the type of annoying hardware issues I hate in vista. Now I doubt you have ever tried things like that. I've done that several times on server 2003 and that didn't crash. Funny don't you think?
| Quote: | | You want me to keep replying in a nice way to the same old garbage you keep posting that just isn't true. |
You keep repeating the same argument "I know it cause I use vista".
| Quote: | | I told you many many posts ago that you just read this crap online, and have no real personal experience, |
You have no clue.
| Quote: | | and you said you didnt and that you helped some people with their computer (which i seriously doubt because i'd think you'd make it worse) and then you keep posting and talking about crap you read online by some people who are supposed to be Windows Geniuses. |
1) I have probably worked on more PC's with windows vista on them than you probably have worked on PC's in your entire life.
2) Actually, try a few higher quality software magazines that aren't sponsored by microsoft in any way.
| Quote: | Obviously they aren't that damn bright if they can't get the OS to even work right.
I seriously doubt that i am just special person who some how got vista to work flawlessly. I seriously doubt it. |
Sure if you buy a pre-composed composed computer it will work, cause they selected the hardware based on what it should do (in this case run vista). But have you ever looked at the price tags of such computers? Most people can't buy one, and often the tech support is terrible anyway.
| Quote: | | I even just installed a geforce 7800 gt gfx card, and it even works without an error on vista and its a few years old. |
Few years, more like 2-3 years. At the moment I have 3 graphics card in this computer (it's not my desktop actually, but my file server). A voodoo2, a seriously over clocked saphire radeon 7000 and some old VIA graphics card... Vista doesn't like that either, I actually tried to use the radeon 7000 in my desktop for a while. Vista was shouting warnings about my several PCI graphics cards that I use for TV output & secondary monitors. Now I moved it to the file server as well. X Server doesn't seem to really care about how much graphics cards I put in that thing.
| Quote: | | Intelligent people go by their own experiences and experiments and not read what other obviously biased people have written online. |
You have tested it on like what 1 or 2 computers, I've tested it on a lot more computers. And from what I have seen, I don't want vista and if windows 7 acts like vista I don't want it either.
| Quote: | | I'm seriously getting annoyed that in order to even carry on in conversations with you we have to keep going over the same crap that we already went over, because you read another article online. |
Uhm, actually open a decent computer magazine and read a review about vista.
| Quote: | | Jacky started this topic with the intention of windows users discussing this. Read the first post. |
Must I remind you that you switched the conversation to this subject: http://lifelesspeople.com/foru.....039#517039
| Quote: | People can only tolerate stupid people for so long. I'm sorry but dude you are making your self look like an idiot. To anyone who goes over and re reads all that you have posted in the past week.
Maybe I look like an idiot for my attitude now. Do i care? Hell no you're annoying the **** out of me. Just trying to talk some sense into you. I've been biting my lip on this crap for a week now and haven't really replied. |
I'm trying to talk some sense into you actually. The only comment you can come up with is "i've used vista". I've come up with several valid comments.
| Quote: | | I was just gonna start to ignore these topics, but today i woke up and had to re read the same **** you keep typing and i snapped, and i make no apologies. can only be civilized for so long when it comes with people posting false information over and over. |
You keep posting the same thing over and over.
| Quote: | | Do you want to come over and use my computer? And see how awesome vista really is? Maybe then you'd gain some actual real experience with vista. |
You really have no clue about how much I've had to endure the torture of using vista.
1) Fix hardware issues on vista computers
2) Use a vista laptop of somebody else for a short time cause of trouble with lan network so I had to use wireless and using somebody else his laptop looked like a good idea.
3) Try to get things like autocad, multisim, and other software like that installed on windows vista and ending up having tell people they should get the latest version cause vista doesn't like the 1 year old version.
And many more things like that. And mr. know-it-all now claims I have no experience using vista.
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<bart416> I just realized something
<bart416> we celebrate the fact that this piece of rock made one rotation around a glowing ball of plasma that is kept together due to its own gravity well
<njsg> HAPPY NEW YEAR
<Easter> ^^
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Scar
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Okay okay. Some how i'm some windows vista genius, and have one very special powerful PC that just runs vista perfectly. Wow, Gosh, didn't know how incredible I or my machine was. Wow i should sell it for like 50x as much as i paid for it since its sooo rare.
Let's just leave it at this: I some how can get vista to work, and you cant  That sir speaks for itself. so next time you want to brag about someone's experience, and knowledge/intelligence, just look at the one who can't get something to work properly.  |
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Scar, I think he's point is that if you have even a little technical knowledge to maintain the operating system in a reasonable state or at least not help negatively impacting it; and have hardware chosen with a focus on Vista compatibility; and are a light to moderate user, and don't have many needs; and if you are mostly the single user of the computer, then you are fine. Which is a pretty fair assessment. But even then, that is what is referred to as "just getting the job done".
And don't make the mistake I done with "moose", i.e. don't get carried away. The last comment you made wasn't really necessary. The problem is that SolidRaven is not a light user: specialised applications, multi GPU/screen environments, server tasks and so forth would be a pain on Windows. As is the converse of all the points I made above in the first paragraph, if you have more than one category of user on your computer (e.g. relatively computer illiterate flat mate, sibling, parent...); if you have specialised/obscure software; if you have not become accustomed to performing operations in a way so as to reduce Windows degradation and so forth. |
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Scar
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Well let's just agree to disagree i guess. All i know is that in my personal situation and experience i have none of the problems that were mostly brought up against vista.
I should never have gotten as personal as i did, and for that i apologize to solidraven.
For a while there i should've had my name changed back to "the grinch".
Sorry again. so yeah we'll all just have to differ because these topics never go anywhere on any forum on the web and trust me there are tons.
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| I guess Microsoft didn't want to loose the UMPC markets to Linux or some other OSes. Vista is too big for these low cost PCs, and if they do not extend their sales of Win XP, even more ppl will jump on a bandwagon to switch over to Linux. This has a long term effect and will surely snowball to other Microsoft products. |
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