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kenoodo
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can use a knife to cut, a gun, you use it to shot. Yes, I agree you can prove your target practice skill, and that for more accurate shot.

No matter who is holding the gun, the purpose is the same, to shot, and maybe there will be a deadly threat before you pull the trigger.
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LP-SolidRaven
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 2:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Necromis wrote:
Kenoodo, not true. A gun is a tool that is only as good or bad as the person using it. If you limit a tool to just one use then you could make almost any object into a bad thing.

A guy is a weapon only, a knife has many uses.

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A Knife is for Killing. Is as honest as your statement. However, with a knife I can prepare a wonderful meal. Safe a person's life by performing surgery....etc.

A knife has multiple uses, a gun does not.

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Guns are used for more than just killing. They have been used to prove skill in target practice.

Skill in what? Killing living beings?

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To provide food in the wilderness. To save a life of a person being attacked.

Other things can usually achieve the same effect. To give an example, loads of animals are afraid of signal flares.

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They have also been used in most wars that have brought about freedom and democracy. Though on the opposite side they have also been used in wars for power and evil.

Keep in mind that without guns there would be less power hungry and "evil" (that's simply a point of view) people to start wars.

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Again a gun is a tool. An honest person can use it for good, and a bad person can use it for evil.

A gun is a weapon, your knife example doesn't exactly work.
Can I prepare food using a gun, doubt it. Can I prefer food using a knife? Sure. And the list of uses for an object like a knife goes on. But for a gun, it has only one goal, to shoot at things.
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Necromis
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SR, but it is still a tool. My example of knife still holds true. After all it is all in how an object is used as to whether the object is good or bad. Agreed, a gun has the main purpose of killing. However, that does not make it bad. If I use that gun to kill a deer and feed my family, or some other party, then I am using it for good. If I took that same gun and shot you, I would be using it for evil.

In regards to your opinion about guns allowing there to be more power hungry people. Think about the day and age of the Crusades, The Roman Empire....etc. Man will always have a weapon that can be used to kill. Man will always have power hungry people. These tools/weapons are not evil, they are just that, tools. Those that wield them are good/evil. A spear was used to kill, but again some times that was for good, and sometimes for evil. Blamming a tool for all that is wrong is foolish. It takes away the responsibility of the person wielding the tool.
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linuxdoctor
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 8:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Necromis wrote:
Blamming a tool for all that is wrong is foolish. It takes away the responsibility of the person wielding the tool.


These days, or any other days for that matter, nobody takes responsibility for anything; quite the opposite. Today we seek to affix blame on someone or something else for our troubles, our mistakes and our misdeeds. It's just entirely too convenient to project our feelings and insecurities onto a scape-goat than to take responsibility ourselves.

In times past humans used to blame foreigners or people of other ethnic or religious backgrounds for all their ills. Economic downturn? Blame the Jews and their control over the world economy or all the immigrants from wherever they come from. Rash of thefts recently? Look for an encampment of gypsies nearby. Civil liberties being threatened? Blame the Catholics and their so-called blind allegance to the anti-democratic Pope.

Today, in the West at any rate, you can't do that anymore. So go ahead and blame the inanimate objects. They don't have any civil rights -- yet. And besides, it isn't our fault anyway.
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RohitMalhotra
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 20, 2008 12:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

People with so much time to themselves to little to occupy themselves that it comes down to this and United states has always considered itself to be a safe country but alas it falls so so short .

I guess even with the spohisticated systems it is difficult to control the human mind infact it just stirs more the hornets nest ..
What is really required is to reign in the Mind .. how what and where is the question .

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