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marinaroz Grey Scaled

Joined: 04 Mar 2004 Posts: 2775 Location: Israel
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:45 am Post subject: Search engines and display:none; |
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I've read recently that putting the css property display:none in on an element, as well as visibility:hidden and some other methods of text hiding, result in said text being ignored by search engines.
Now, thinking logically, that makes a lot of sense, since many spam sites would like to exploit the hidden text possibilities to buff up their keywords. But what do you do when there's a legitimate reason to hide part of your content?
I'm thinking dropdown menus. When you have a dropdown menu, all of the subcategories start out hidden, therefore they don't get indexed? A pretty big deal if you ask me.
Do you guys know about this issue and any ways to sidestep it? Does it even matter much? _________________ Tarakana NET |
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Rashy Lifeless Person
Joined: 25 Sep 2006 Posts: 637
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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If you are looking for CSS drop down menus A List Apart has some good articles on that, and I am pretty sure the search engines grab the entire menu. _________________ Rashy! |
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Lyth Server Ninja

Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1644 Location: Socorro, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know how to deal with that little problem, but I can tell you that you shouldn't give it much thought.
It really doesn't matter whether the search engine indexes the sub-categories of a menu or not; I'm more interested in having it index the content of my pages and not their menus. I could really care less if a search engine misses out on reading information from drop-down menus and only indexes the pages. _________________ I talk to the rain |
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ClickFanatic Est. 2005

Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 3877 Location: A particular geographic area
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 10:14 am Post subject: |
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It might skip over the content in the menu, but it will probably follow the links and index those pages. Not much to worry about, I guess. _________________ Captain Jell-O Buster from the Future
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marinaroz Grey Scaled

Joined: 04 Mar 2004 Posts: 2775 Location: Israel
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 1:36 pm Post subject: |
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So you guys are saying that when a hidden-by-default menu is present, the links contained in this menu will be followed? Because I don't care much whether the menu text is indexed, but it's very important that the links of that menu are followed. If they are not, then basically the site must relay on a visible side menu, or worse, outside links, to be properly indexed, and that would be unacceptable. _________________ Tarakana NET |
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Lyth Server Ninja

Joined: 13 Nov 2004 Posts: 1644 Location: Socorro, New Mexico, USA
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Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| marinaroz wrote: | | So you guys are saying that when a hidden-by-default menu is present, the links contained in this menu will be followed? |
I don't see any reason why a spider shouldn't follow the links in a menu, hidden or not. Though the links may be hidden visually, they can still be seen in the source code, which is what the spiders use to navigate and index corresponding pages. _________________ I talk to the rain |
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ClickFanatic Est. 2005

Joined: 18 Jan 2005 Posts: 3877 Location: A particular geographic area
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 11:55 am Post subject: |
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For as far as I know, spiders never follow links if the attribute rel="nofollow" is present. Although there might be ones that do anyway, the major search engines do not. _________________ Captain Jell-O Buster from the Future
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marinaroz Grey Scaled

Joined: 04 Mar 2004 Posts: 2775 Location: Israel
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Posted: Tue Dec 04, 2007 12:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Lyth wrote: | | Though the links may be hidden visually, they can still be seen in the source code, which is what the spiders use to navigate and index corresponding pages. |
Not quite. It's not just the matter of your source code. The spiders will take a look at your CSS too, to check for hidden text, so that sites will not benefit from having invisible text filled with the keywords they want to promote. So it is not as straightforward as looking at the source. _________________ Tarakana NET |
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spock iSpock

Joined: 23 Mar 2005 Posts: 2881 Location: The Netherlands
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