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Jacky
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I do agree that there are too many editions until it becomes "too organised".
I still love the 2 editions of Windows XP (not counting x64). Home is for the average Joe, upgrade to Professional if you are really that tech-savvy.
It sort of originated when they release Windows XP for both home users and the professionals. Prior to that 95/98/ME was for home users and NT/2000 were for professionals.
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LP-SolidRaven
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Well, they're just making foolish small differences now. At least there was a clear line between XP Home, XP Professional and Server 2003.
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mcwkm
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| XP also had tablet edition and media center edition. In addition to 64-bit, home, professional and server 2003 |
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LP-SolidRaven
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Media center edition is pretty much windows xp professional with another GUI and a couple of tools installed. Same for tablet edition actually, 64-bit is also professional.
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| Quote: | | Windows XP Mode requires hardware virtualization support from your CPU, either AMD Virtualization (AMD-V) or Intel Virtualization Technology (Intel-VT). Two snags: first, most PCs which support this have it disabled by default, and second, there are plenty of boxes out there that do not support it at all, including those based on current Intel Celeron, Pentium, and some Core 2 Duo CPUs. |
I just read that and I'm very disappointed already, and I haven't even gotten to the actual meat of the (p)review.
But after reading the rest of the article, I have to say I'm not very excited about the feature. Maybe it's also something to do with the fact that I've been doing virtualization on my Mac for so long now that this is just lackluster in comparison, but I have faith that after they do their release and have their paying customers do debugging for them (in typical Microsoft fashion), they'll patch up all the weird inconsistencies and they may have a good feature on their hands.
I have no hope that this will work well out of the box.
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| Xtreme $niper wrote: | | Maybe it's also something to do with the fact that I've been doing virtualization on my Mac for so long now that this is just lackluster in comparison |
You can do the same virtualization on a PC as you can on a Mac already. Having this feature built in with the additional license of XP was the benefit. I actually watched someone boot into Vista and then load a virtual pc for XP in class the other day and was surprised although after thinking about it, on a good system it probably is a good idea just for compatibility. |
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Jacky
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| mcwkm wrote: | | XP also had tablet edition and media center edition. In addition to 64-bit, home, professional and server 2003 |
Tablet Edition and Media Center Edition are more specific, the former is for tablets and the latter is for media-oriented laptops.
It's unlike Vista where you got Home Basic and Home Premium and they are not specific.
Server 2003 may be somewhat related to XP but it still isn't counted as an edition of XP.
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mcwkm
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| Posted: Mon May 04, 2009 9:59 am Post subject: |
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| Jacky wrote: |
Tablet Edition and Media Center Edition are more specific, the former is for tablets and the latter is for media-oriented laptops.
It's unlike Vista where you got Home Basic and Home Premium and they are not specific.
Server 2003 may be somewhat related to XP but it still isn't counted as an edition of XP. |
Actually Home Premium was the replacement for Media Center Edition.
Media Center Edition was also sold on desktops in addition to laptops.
Server 2003 is built on the same code as other XP versions. It is best categorized into the XP family.
There are also other versions of XP released because of lawsuits and versions designed for embedded systems. |
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Well, server 2003 is in essence a modified xp pro. But it looks to me as if they modified the kernel slightly and a couple of other parts of the system to make it a lot more stable. But configuration isn't as easy as in windows xp. (No hardware installation wizard at all)
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Jacky
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| mcwkm wrote: | | Jacky wrote: |
Tablet Edition and Media Center Edition are more specific, the former is for tablets and the latter is for media-oriented laptops.
It's unlike Vista where you got Home Basic and Home Premium and they are not specific.
Server 2003 may be somewhat related to XP but it still isn't counted as an edition of XP. |
Actually Home Premium was the replacement for Media Center Edition.
Media Center Edition was also sold on desktops in addition to laptops.
Server 2003 is built on the same code as other XP versions. It is best categorized into the XP family.
There are also other versions of XP released because of lawsuits and versions designed for embedded systems. |
It isn't really a replacement because Microsoft decided to have tablet and media center features in the core rather than offered separately, and that's why you can load a Home Premium on a tablet PC and it will provide you with an on-screen keyboard whereas for XP you got to use the Tablet PC Edition.
Server 2003 may be built on the same code as XP but Microsoft has decided that it is separate from the Windows XP family. It's like saying Vista has only 6 editions, but 7 if you count in Server 2008.
There are also versions without the Windows Media Player due to the lawsuits but we were mentioning about the main editions. If you were to factor these in Vista will still have more editions than XP.
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Media Center Edition was a terrible idea from a marketing standpoint, because you can say now that it's for "media-centric desktops" but you would always see the OS being pre-installed on any random laptop and desktop being sold at Best Buy. It made no differentiation because any computer could technically be media-centric from those vendors. The only one that I can't see having Media Center is IBM/Lenovo since they're so business focused.
Needless to say, I liked the shiny theme they had so I installed it anyway. =P
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Jacky
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| Xtreme $niper wrote: | Media Center Edition was a terrible idea from a marketing standpoint, because you can say now that it's for "media-centric desktops" but you would always see the OS being pre-installed on any random laptop and desktop being sold at Best Buy. It made no differentiation because any computer could technically be media-centric from those vendors. The only one that I can't see having Media Center is IBM/Lenovo since they're so business focused.
Needless to say, I liked the shiny theme they had so I installed it anyway. =P |
That could be why they decided to have it as a core functionality in Vista.
Unfortunately they sort of over-did things by having so many editions.
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mcwkm
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| Xtreme $niper wrote: | | Needless to say, I liked the shiny theme they had so I installed it anyway. =P |
You know that themes can be installed and changed on winXP right? |
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| mcwkm wrote: | | Xtreme $niper wrote: | | Needless to say, I liked the shiny theme they had so I installed it anyway. =P |
You know that themes can be installed and changed on winXP right? |
They all suck, are buggy etc. "Soul Luna" wasn't bad and I used that most of the time but it's still nothing special. Maybe my opinion's changed since using Compiz/Emerald and Windows 7 for a long time now.
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