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sikkjoker Lifeless Person

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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:34 pm Post subject: Skinny Models Banned |
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20.....ylefashion
This is too much. I don't think that the government should come down like this on the skinny models. If they are underweight and are still a model it is not their fault, it is the fault of the designer. They should be the ones that shouldn't be making the clothes for size 0 models.... |
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mellymoo Lifeless Person

Joined: 10 Jun 2006 Posts: 554 Location: Scotland
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 4:15 am Post subject: |
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correct - stop the companies making the clothes so small, and women might not feel the need/pressure to be so skinny!
anyhoo - the clothes dont even sit right on these models - they look like theyre wearing sacks!
honestly - can any male out there say they think these catwalk models have beautiful figures?
a good feed - thats what they need! maybe they'd look a bit happier then! |
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Duck Pinko Liberal Communist

Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 1558 Location: Canada
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 12:59 pm Post subject: |
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It's obviously the right thing to do, but I'm not sure how I feel about the government regulating it.
It's okay in this case because they're co-funding the event. If it was put into law that would, I think, be overstepping their bounds. _________________ [img:d156d322f3]http://seriousbusiness.l2p.net/img/seriousbanner.gif[/img:d156d322f3]
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commonsense Penguin Army Publishing

Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 2039 Location: between time and timbuktu
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Pie32 Not Banned

Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 1438 Location: Lost in 84
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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| commonsense wrote: | | This is stupid the government has no authority to regulate the diets of people. They should worry about the economy or energy crisis, instead. |
The government definately should have the authority to regulate diets if neccessary. Let's say hypothetically that they a vast majority of people decided to take up a strange diet where they nibbled on a few peanuts once a weak. Should the government just sit back and watch as most of the nation kills themselves? There's no way those super skinny models are healthy. They're just bones... and I suppose a little bit of skin has been flung about their shoulders.
Those super skinny models are disgusting. _________________ [img]http://luneknight.com.ru/counter.jpg[/img]
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commonsense Penguin Army Publishing

Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Posts: 2039 Location: between time and timbuktu
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Pie32 wrote: | | commonsense wrote: | | This is stupid the government has no authority to regulate the diets of people. They should worry about the economy or energy crisis, instead. |
The government definately should have the authority to regulate diets if neccessary. Let's say hypothetically that they a vast majority of people decided to take up a strange diet where they nibbled on a few peanuts once a weak. Should the government just sit back and watch as most of the nation kills themselves? There's no way those super skinny models are healthy. They're just bones... and I suppose a little bit of skin has been flung about their shoulders.
Those super skinny models are disgusting. | You dont understand the government doesnt have the authority. If I want to eat a few peanuts a day that is my personal choice. Certain things the government has no authority over, for example if I want to marry patricia the government cant say no you have to marry mary. _________________ [img:764bf48b96]http://penguinarmy.org/blueleetpengborder.gif[/img:764bf48b96] |
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sikkjoker Lifeless Person

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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: |
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| I understand about how they can ban the models because they are providing funding but it isn't the models' fault, the designers are the ones that hire the models because of the clothes they make. If designers made size 16 clothes I don't think anyone will be toothpick thin anymore... |
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Pie32 Not Banned

Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 1438 Location: Lost in 84
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:15 pm Post subject: |
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| commonsense wrote: | | Pie32 wrote: | | commonsense wrote: | | This is stupid the government has no authority to regulate the diets of people. They should worry about the economy or energy crisis, instead. |
The government definately should have the authority to regulate diets if neccessary. Let's say hypothetically that they a vast majority of people decided to take up a strange diet where they nibbled on a few peanuts once a weak. Should the government just sit back and watch as most of the nation kills themselves? There's no way those super skinny models are healthy. They're just bones... and I suppose a little bit of skin has been flung about their shoulders.
Those super skinny models are disgusting. | You dont understand the government doesnt have the authority. If I want to eat a few peanuts a day that is my personal choice. Certain things the government has no authority over, for example if I want to marry patricia the government cant say no you have to marry mary. |
You failed to understand the point of my post. Governments can only exist if there are people in said nation. If there was going to be something that would kill a huge amount of people, don't you think the government would want to step in and try and help them out (assuming said government wasn't already oppressing the people)? They certainly wouldn't want the entire country to commit suicide by deciding to stop eating, so they would regulate it in some way. Your example is completely irrelevant to this conversation. _________________ [img]http://luneknight.com.ru/counter.jpg[/img]
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Perpetual Narcissistic Megalomaniac

Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Posts: 1113 Location: In Your Head
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 1:32 am Post subject: |
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Too bad this wasn't being tried in the USA...lawyers would have a field day and sue the heck out of them.
Talk about discrimination...
So is it ok to ban fat people from buses? Or a skinny person from an all you can eat buffet? What gives anyone the right to say because of how someone looks they can not participate in something?
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LovejoyLass Savant Poster
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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 5:29 am Post subject: |
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Banning slimmer models?!
I personally think models who are so slim they look like they haven't eaten for days and could do with a smaller dress size are unhealthy in most cases and not happy with themselves.
Seriously though, what kind of example does this set to the children in our world. I saw a couple of girls (about 9 and 10) in the local park the other day reading a magazine, a magazine most teenage girls/women in their twenties read about sex and your body....... These girls were actually looking at a DIET page, that's right a DIET page...
"I want to look like her" was what I heard one of them say, and this female model must have been around a size 6/8 English size.... Now seriously, these girls didn't have an inch of fat on them, they were pretty little things and looked healthy and well fed... Yet they wanted to look like a seriously slim model.
I have nothing wrong with models being slim, but there's a line and sometimes it is crossed.
It furthur leads onto the arguement of 'fatter' models. I seriously have never seen a model over the English size 12.... Why?! There are some beautiful 'bigger' ladies in this world and they should also be able to model, it would also ease the pressure on our kids!!
People look at people and say 'fat' or 'thin'.... Some of the bigger women look better than the thinner ones.....
I can't stress enough how I would like to see 'bigger' women in magazines and stuff.... |
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coralvalley Lifeless Person

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Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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In all honesty it is not necessarily the fault of the designer though. I worked for a modeling agency doing a couple of fashion shows and I can honestly tell you that in some of the shows in particular the company itself made clothing that catered to women who were probably ranging from a size four to a size eighteen and we did a benefit show where they wanted to do a runway show for woman who were in the over thirty years old bracket. That being said these were women's clothing geared at women who were not teenagers. However, when the fashion show came to be, the girls that were hired for the job by the store itself that sold the clothing were all under the age of fifteen except for one or two who were approaching the eighteen mark and none of them were over a size two. We spent most of the time backstage pinning these clothing on these girls so that they would actually fit them because the designer made clothing for women and not children. However, given the way the media is geared at youthfulness and thin being the in thing, it sends a very negative message to everyone. It shows women that if they are not built like say Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton or Kirsten Dunst in their twenties or their thirties that they are not beautiful and that is a very negative image to convey.
I honestly do not believe that banning skinny women from shows are the answer necessarily, but I think people who put together the fashion shows should put together a vast array of beautiful women modeling the clothing to give people an example of what it would look like on real women. A woman at size six or even size sixteen can be every bit as beautiful as a woman at size zero if not more. While this is a bold and harsh move in a way to ban too skinny models, it might be a step in the right direction to get some real variety out there on the fashion circuit. Just my thoughts though. |
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Scar Lifeless Person

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I do think these girls promote negative self image and everything and i myself don't find starving girls attractive. Some of these girls really are just thin naturally though.
Stories like this sure do make me proud to be an american. _________________ http://www.damnidunno.com |
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mellymoo Lifeless Person

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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:08 am Post subject: |
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| Duck wrote: | It's obviously the right thing to do, but I'm not sure how I feel about the government regulating it.
It's okay in this case because they're co-funding the event. If it was put into law that would, I think, be overstepping their bounds. |
if the government decides to start to regulate such a stupid thing then its only going to mean more money to be paid from taxes and less money going to other more deserving/worthwhile/needy departments.
its a totally and utterly stupid idea in my opinion! fashion houses/designers should just take a step back and see that most women arent going to fit most of their silly clothes anyway! the ones that are worn on the catwalk arent even passed on for sale, they are burned! what's the point in that? |
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Shockex Savant Poster
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Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Personally, I at first thought this was a great idea by the government. But after reading the opinions of others here at LP I have to change my opinion.
I first agreed what the first guy said about a government not being able to operate if a huge amount of the people they're governing are trying to kill off themselves, but you also have to look at the situation in a different perspective.
For them to ban skinny models from the runways is like them banning obese people from fast food restaurants. What they are doing is clearly descrimination, even though they try to back their descision with the 'young girls try to look at skinny as them'. It might sound like they're doing the right thing because skinny models having been getting tv time for years so everyone always sees how unhealthy they look and try to stop the youth from trying to look like them. But if they were to switch it like I said before, everyone will instantly see the blatant descrimination (banning fat/obese people from restaurants or call you can eat buffets).
Also, if I have heard right, over there (similar to the USA right now) there are more obese people than skinny anyway ('average' weight people arent included with the skinny). So they can't say that the youth becoming too skinny and unhealthy was becoming a problem because that's not true.
So yeah, this is totally descrimination from the government towards skinny models. _________________ - Gaming website coming soon! (Cheats, Reviews, Walkthroughs and other Entertainment news - Music, Movies) |
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athanatis Master Poster

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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2006 6:09 am Post subject: |
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It's really sad when the government discriminates against thin people. If it were a private organisation, I would still find what they do to be morally wrong, but I would understand, since they have the right to make their own rules.
But a government is meant to represent the whole society, so even if it's funding the event, it should be impartial and non-discriminatory. Yes, there's a good intent behind it, and I do agree that some girls are unhealthily thin, but the ends do not justify their means.
Body weight is, in the end, a personal choice. It affects no one more than yourself. I think it's right for the government to launch education campaigns to let young people learn more about health. But when you actually start pulling people out for no reason other than being unhealthy and being a bad influence, you're stepping into people's freedoms.
This anti-thin trend is getting bigger and bigger, and very few people seem to realise the danger. Imagine what would happen if the government banned fat people from performing in public. Being too fat is as unhealthy as being too thin. This inconsistency stems from the lack of people who fight for thin people's rights. There are plenty of people lobbying for fat people, saying that it's personal choice, don't discriminate against them, etc etc. But virtually none for thin people. I myself am quite thin, mainly because of my genes rather than my eating habits. I'm within the healthy weight range (my BMI's 19-20), but many acquaintances and friends have said to my face that I'm too thin, I should eat more. I understand their concern for my health. Luckily I'm emotionally and mentally as healthy as I am physically, so I don't take any offence at it. But imagine a teenage girl who is underweight and suffers from problems like depression. How will this constant complaining about her weight feel like to her? She will feel isolated and picked on. It will probably cause her greater mental harm than physical benefit.
I've strayed a bit from the topic. Sorry - it's one of my pet peeves, being of the group that gets discriminated against. But to sum up, yes, I think being too thin is unhealthy and should be discouraged, but not with methods that intrude upon people's freedom. And many well-meaning people are inadvertently hurting those they want to help. _________________ I'm objective - I object to everything. |
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