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West_ham_hammer · Forum Regular Joined: 05 Mar 2006 Posts: 412 Location: UK

Oh dear, this is still going on!

SE13, why do you give a sh1t that we don't have the required points? Why do you care that if the forum ever gets back up and running that we will need a massive effort from all members. Your just an unpaid skivvy of Graeme's. You should realise as a lot of people already have, he doesn't really care for his own site, so why should we? If he really did care, he would spend more time posting then he does. His username should be Austin Powers' international man of mystery! If it was my site and the person/people that were hosting it for me were as bad as this lot on here, well I'd be looking for alternatives. Socceram.net is about as second rate as this place. All we hear is that Socceram.net is to big for this server and that server. In truth it's to big for Trel. I wish he would admit that and Graeme could then update the site and move to a host that knows what they are doing with a site bigger then LLP can handle.
I would suggest a site where we paid for the hosting. But in order for members to contribute, they would need the site to have a major facelift.

Anyway, god knows why I even bothered to babble on above. And personally I have long given up on the site. First time I have checked for a few weeks on here, quite surprised that nothing has changed.
Yeah right! off course nothing has changed, not why we still get hosting from here.

Don't expect this post will stay as it points out what a two bob site this really is.
But that's that off my chest anyway. And for the record SE13, I am no longer affiliated to Graeme's hosting plan on here, so the points gained for this won't count for erm................ the busted forum

G.T.M · Banned Joined: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 33

I don't blame Graeme. Fair **** to him I reckon I would of probably got bored after a while of hosting it as well.

He's out having a life, eating burgers, shagging whores, picking poppies - I dunno what he does with his life.

But it's people like you Chris who should know better and are truly sad in all this, worrying about the hosting of a site that you habitually dig at and have digged at in this thread?

You've said it's all over, you've said that it's not as good as it was, you've said it's the same old **** in here that it was over there?

So why are you still bothered?

I mean this with no malice or bile towards you but seriously - get a life mate... It's tragic to watch seriously! Stop worrying about it, the site died years ago...

It was a chance to give it a facelift and archive the old site - but the same old creaky **** will be put back eventually on a new server.

The owner doesn't care, the ex-mods, the current mods, the wannabee mods - no-body cares but you!

It's about time you "actually" gave up caring instead of constantly coming back time after time.

Or buy Graeme out (somehow), host it your way, your rules with your people and be done with it.

Jacky · Posted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 11:02 pm Post subject:

If he doesn't care, he wouldn't have opened the support tickets and ask for Trel's whereabouts.

You guys should try thinking how he feels and what he can do.

I need to open a new website too, but my issue is still pending, when it should have been resolved in October. If you call SoccerAM's matter worse, I don't know what to call mine.

He can seek for alternatives, but what's the use? Supposing he cannot access cPanel or FTP, how is he going to move the site? And which free host would want to host such a big site? You can imagine the total filesize.

And for paid hosts, he will need to pay. Who is gonna contribute for the bills? He chose to use a free host because he doesn't want to pay in real cash.

What you can do now is not whining, but rather, try to save the site. With so many people, you can just get any two or three of you and apply for hosting. Do your part and at least set up another site while the main site is down. When the main site is up, you can try to merge the two sites.

At least show that some users care about SoccerAM, not whine that no one cares when you guys don't want to take the first step.

And if you can't be bothered, then don't whine about it.
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LP-Trel · Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:41 pm Post subject:

I won't divulge any details that Graeme hasn't already given, but here is the short version.

The www.socceram.net website is big, really big. It needs a dedicated environment to be stable and that will cost a considerable sum of money per month for the foreseeable future.

Rather than do all of this again in 6 months, it has taken awhile to line out at an acceptable price point.

Hopefully we'll see the site up and online with full access soon.
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G.T.M · Banned Joined: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 33

Jacky · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:08 pm Post subject:

kidley_pie · Novice Poster Joined: 16 Apr 2005 Posts: 21

The www.socceram.net website is big, really big - only because it's full of crap. If you get rid of all the crap it would be small, really small. I could probably host it on a floppy disk if you just kept all the good stuff.

LP-Trel is going to rip you off. Why do you want to host crap for? Are you stupid?
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Jacky · Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject:

G.T.M · Banned Joined: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 33

G.T.M · Banned Joined: 20 Jul 2007 Posts: 33

Out of interest how big is the site?

Are we talking hundreds of gig?

Graeme - what is the point of shifting it when most of it is useless?

chrisbennett7 · Experienced Poster Joined: 27 Aug 2007 Posts: 53

It's nothing special

www.forum4all.co.uk/forum

mellymoo · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:25 pm Post subject:

i'm a bit confused about the whole thing to be honest.

does having hundreds of thousands of posts on the site actually make for anything but some kind of weird status in the cyber world? Is it the internet equivalent of the class divide? If that's all it is, then get rid of everything over a year old, and keep clearing out, on a monthly basis. The site would be A LOT smaller , and would run a lot more smoothly.

Out of curiosity - does anyone know exactly how much money is made off the back of this site?

LP-Trel · Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:22 pm Post subject:

Let me put "big" in perspective for you.

The disk space used by something could be one way of considering it big, but really disk space is fairly cheap. The data transfer (measured in gigabytes transfered) it uses would be another way of considering it big, but this is also fairly cheap.

The website uses many CPU cycles and a considerable amount of ram when it has hundreds of people browsing the website at once. It will require a dedicated environment so it doesn't cause other websites to slow down if it gets a surge of traffic.

You could store a modern computer video game on an older computer with only a few gigabytes of hard disk space, but it takes a much more powerful computer to actually run it well. Smile

Other specific website questions can be directed to Graeme. Remember we are just the host. Smile

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