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mellymoo
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| Rashy wrote: | | Quote: | | I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that an amazing amount of OVER 30's don't know what goes on outside America. Harsh but true, you have a very insular society as a whole. |
Its kind of hard to know whats going on outside of America if the American media doesn't publish it. I mostly hear what is going on outside the U.S. online. |
So - that shows that you are interested enough to find out about the rest of the world, the vast majority of Americans aren't. All they care about is the land of the free, USA USA USA bla bla bla!!!
Why don't very many Americans want to travel and see a bit of the world instead of staying with the US borders all their lives?? i just don't understand it! Especially when it costs a lot less to travel from there.....
I can't remember the exact figures but apparently the majority of Americans don't even have passports!! I find that strange! |
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Necromis
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| well I think a majority of the people in the US, myself included, have not traveled around our OWN country yet and would prefer to do that prior to exploring other countries. There are many places here that I want to see but have not been able to as of yet. Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck and can only take inexpensive vacations. Though I did see a package for 499.00 US for 4 nites in paris including airfare from new york. |
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mellymoo
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| Necromis wrote: | | well I think a majority of the people in the US, myself included, have not traveled around our OWN country yet and would prefer to do that prior to exploring other countries. There are many places here that I want to see but have not been able to as of yet. Most Americans live paycheck to paycheck and can only take inexpensive vacations. Though I did see a package for 499.00 US for 4 nites in paris including airfare from new york. |
see what i mean? thats only £250 - we couldn't get that same deal from here and its only about an hour and a half on the plane!! go for it! |
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Necromis
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| Melly, I think the main reason is Europe is trying to get more American tourist traffic. I am not saying that traveling to Europe is something I will never do. However, it is behind some US based traveling I want to do first. After all I can drive to 90% of where I want to go here. Though I will probably fly to more of them due to allowing more vacation time rather than commute time. |
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pharmer4
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| mellymoo wrote: | | I can't remember the exact figures but apparently the majority of Americans don't even have passports!! I find that strange! |
Most aussies don't have passports either.
It is more because in Australia and America, you can travel the entire breadth of the country, roughly the same size as Europe, without ever crossing into another country. In Europe, you can sneeze and spray snot into someone else's soveignty!
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Shaggybreeks
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Why don't very many Americans want to travel and see a bit of the world instead of staying with the US borders all their lives?? i just don't understand it! Especially when it costs a lot less to travel from there.....
I can't remember the exact figures but apparently the majority of Americans don't even have passports!! I find that strange! |
I think a lot of Americans do like to travel around the world. But I don't get where you think it's cheaper for us! Consider that up until very recently a citizen of Canada, the US or Mexico could enter and travel in any of those countries without a passport or visa. I can remember going up to Canada years ago without even having to show id. That's changing, and we'll definitely be seeing more people getting passports.
But I don't get where you think it's cheap to "hop the pond". And Europe hasn't been cheap in terms of loging and food for about 50 years.
Another thing that probably keeps Americans from traveling overseas is the fact that there is so much traveling they can do in their own country. The country is huge with a very diverse landscape.
But I still know lots and lots of people who have spent time in Europe and Asia.
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Shaggybreeks
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see what i mean? thats only £250 - we couldn't get that same deal from here and its only about an hour and a half on the plane!! go for it! |
No, that's almost $500 bucks, and for a lot of us, we just don't have that kind of money at one time available for non-necessities. Believe it or not, Americans are NOT all rich!
And it's more like 4 hours on a plane. But heck, that's fast enough. It used to take weeks by ship, and you'd be seasick all the way. Guess what the ship smelled like?
Ah, I feel like I gotta digress a bit, and get all nostalgic about the days that ended around 1960 when there was serious competition between various ocean liners. Those ships were built to make the crossing as quickly as possible. Even though there were airplanes that would make the trip beginning in the 40's, they were scary, uncomfortable, expensive and not regularly scheduled.
I've looked at several books on the topic of those ships, and it's amazing the luxury provided. The menus were almost endless in their variety, and the food was included in the price of the ticket. You might have paid for booze, but that was about it. I've seen pictures of *third* class sitting rooms, and they were like palaces. Wonder what first class got?
Meanwhile, steerage section where all the immigrants usually rode, was still more clean and comfortable than the homes they left. And get this -- the profit from steerage alone paid the expenses of the entire ship. When haven't the poor supported the rich?
I don't disagree with those who say Americans aren't interested in the rest of the world. But it's not fair to say that all Americans are the same, either. Sure, if you took a poll at a Wal Mart, most people wouldn't know or care where Europe was. Most people in that crowd who have been outside the country were either in uniform at the time, or born in Mexico. But if you visit places where "smarter" people are to be found, you'll find lots of people who have been overseas.
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DeadlyXScreams
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I get what you people are saying about the shirt being completely retarded. I am an American citizen myself, and I don't agree with the government at times, but I believe whining about it and talking bad about our system won't help. That is not the problem here though. Did this specific airline have a dress code? We looked at something similar in my Journalism I class. in this case with Southwest Airlines the person was wearing a "Skimpy" outfit, and had to cover up or leave the plane, as I said then and stand by now is that I believe that people should not be told they cannot wear something on a plane unless there is a warning ahead of time. If airlines are going to kick someone off their plane for wearing something unsuitable they should make a dress code. Simple as that. As for the freedom of speech thing, what she's saying does fit. The shirt was criticizing the political system, though she might not have been thinking it at the time she put the shirt on, she still has a right to wear it, in telling her that she could not wear it on the plane was a violation of her rights.
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