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Taking God's Name In Vain?
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clpo13
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magpie wrote:
then could (and I'm spelling these phonetically) "jeez" or "gee" be derivatives of "Jesus"?


Indeed they are.

Personally, I rarely say "Oh my God." It just seems odd to be invoking the name of God when I'm not at all religious. Of course, I don't say "Oh my gosh," either, because in situations that would call for that, I'm usually busy cursing. And I'm not talking "light" cursing, either. I save my "darns" and "effing beeyotches" for when I'm around little kids. Then again, they know more dirty words than I do...
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is about one's intentions.

I would think, that if someone is thinking to use gosh as a way of not disrespecting God then it would be perfectly acceptable.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:18 pm    Post subject: no Reply with quote

no i think 'oh my god'
and 'oh my gosh'
ae two different things
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

How so? I can imagine that "Oh my God" would be more serious, in a sense, than "Oh my gosh," but otherwise, you tend to hear them in the same context. It just depends on the person who says them.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoulJah wrote:
Gosh isn't a bad word nor is it using God's name in vain.


I agree with that.

Magpie wrote:
They're just words. I use "God", "Jesus" and "Holy..." all the time.


That's not a good thing to do, you know. Well, I suppose saying holy is okay, as long as it isn't used in a way such as "holy cow."

Magpie wrote:
If we're talking about modifiers such as "gosh" then could (and I'm spelling these phonetically) "jeez" or "gee" be derivatives of "Jesus"?


I don't think so. I think they're alright to use, as long as you don't mean it in that way.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2006 3:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you can argue both yes and no. But if you really think about it, if you're making a conscious effort to say "Oh My Gosh" as oppose to "Oh My God," then aren't you sparing God's name from vain use. The only time I find myself apologizing for the vain use of God's name is when I say "GOD." Gosh isn't God to me, but a rather clear explicative pass down to me to act as an modifier. Oddly enough, I do get a little apologetic when I use geez, even though I'm not exactly saying Jesus. It depends on your thought processes, I guess. Different words have multiple associations for a variety of individuals.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 14, 2006 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its definitely misuse of God's name.. that's a mortal sin..
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you say 'oh my God', you're not actually calling out to God, you're not disrespecting him, you're probably not even thinking about him. As long as your intentions are good, what's the matter?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a commandment if you havent checked that out. I think it is in the top 5
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"JESUS CHRYSLER" when you are saying it, sounds like you are going to say "Jesus Christ". As for using gods name in vain... Hmm isn't Vanity a sin? Vanity is a form of Vain. If god cares about how his name is used then that would make him vain? So if god sins, why cant we? He also gets jealous when we worship another god...sounds like another sin to me.

If I am in the presence of a "god fearing" person I will watch my language and not utter my many god displeasing words out of respect to the person I am around. I feel GOSH is an ok sub for god and does not offend your regular "god fearing" person.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perpetual wrote:
If god cares about how his name is used then that would make him vain?


First off, you need to realize that vanity has multiple definitions.

To answer your question, that doesn't make God vain. If the assumption is that God is holy then we should not make it our duty to try and desecrate his perfection (even though we can't do it). In the same way that a parent (a thinking, logical, responsible parent) does not accept a child disrespectfully calling them out of their name or title neither does God. It's not a matter of vain conceit or pride, it's the fact that one stands on a higher level than the other.

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There's a difference between "jealousy" and "envy." Notice here the differences between defintions 3 and 5. One is the sin that we know as "envy" -- the other is not about enviousness. Once again it's about respect.
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Praeda
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 7:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Taking God's Name In Vain? Reply with quote

Michael wrote:
Is "gosh" not a substitue for the word "god"? When you say "Oh my gosh!", aren't you really saying, "Oh my God!" in an indirect way?

I was thinking back about a childrens sermon on the subject a while back and though it would be an interesting debate.


Well its all about the content its used in. for example cursing isnt cursing if you properly use the words.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 20, 2006 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't speak english so I don't say 'gosh' Laughing I never take god's name in vain but there are some diary expression who include 'god'... but It's something common, it's not a bad behaviour. For example (for those who speak spanish): 'Por Dios!' ('oh my god'!) or 'Te lo juro por Dios' (mmm, don't know exactly en english, please help me Sad).

I have much respect when I seriously talk about God. I believe he exist Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking or saying god's name is based solely on personal perception..........
If you belive that you are guilty of saying or using your god's name in vain then stop if you dont feel that you are sayin it in vain then.............
by all mean do continue.
cause in the end is you who have to answer for your sins and wrong doing
aint no-one gonna take the fall for you no-one.............
everyone else is too busy outthere lookin out for themselves
and if you don't belive m then thats you're perception as well and you are always entitled to your perception of course
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said.

I say "God" and "Jesus" and "Holy ....." all the time but I don't feel guilty about it so how can someone say that I should? None of us should stand in judgement of another's opinions or perceptions.
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