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ruyss
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 7:51 am    Post subject: Ubuntu 8.10 Reply with quote

This was released yesterday, so I downloaded the cd to test it a bit (in a virtual machine). I must say I like it, everything seems to work fine out of the box and I haven't encountered any problems yet.

So I've been thinking to switch from Mandriva to Ubuntu. I'm still doubtful though, but I think Ubuntu has several advantages over Mandriva:

- Ubuntu has a larger community (if I'm not mistaken), so it would be easier for a linux noob like me to get support if necessary.
- Mandriva uses rpm as packages and Ubuntu deb (right?) and in my experience (the little bit I have, so again, I could be wrong) there are more packages compiled as .deb and less as rpm. Again, this would make things easier for a noob like me.
- And last but not least: Ubuntu is 100% free software, while Mandriva's best version is the powerpack (not free).

I know there are experienced linux users here, so since I'm not sure about switching, what do they think? Would it be a good idea to switch or should I stick with Mandriva?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually RPM is quite common, redhat has been around for quite a while. Debian is young compared to Redhat.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LP-SolidRaven wrote:
Actually RPM is quite common, redhat has been around for quite a while. Debian is young compared to Redhat.

You mean I should stick to Mandriva then?
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each linux distro has it's own specific little things.
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ruyss
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess I'll test the new Ubuntu some more before deciding then. See which one I like more. If I continue to like it, I'll install Ubuntu, it's not that much trouble to switch back to Mandriva in case I run into any problems with Ubuntu. Most of my files are on my external drive anyway, and installing the packages I need/want isn't that hard either.

The thing is, next year at school I have to learn linux and the distro they use is Ubuntu. So starting to work with Ubuntu now might just make the lessons (maybe a just a bit) easier.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2008 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm running Ubuntu, and last night I upgraded all of my computers to 8.10. I find that it is pretty noob-friendly (as long as said noob is friendly with Google and willing to try things out and dig through config files).

I have used a couple different Linux distros, and they are all mostly the same in my opinion. If you really are a complete linux noob, then it shouldn't make too much of a difference as long as you stick to some of the more popular distros. Most of the difference I've noticed is "underneath the hood" so to speak. The config files are in different spots, they might use a slightly different directory structure, but they all use the same kernel (version differences aside).

I would say don't let your school's use of Ubuntu influence your decision. My school uses SunOS 5.10 (a Unix-based system, not Linux) and even still I have no problem working on those servers due to my Linux knowledge.

So with that in mind, I would say go off your preferences. If you are comfortable with Mandrivia, then keep with it, you won't really find compatibility problems when using other Linux distros. If you want to try something new, then give Ubuntu a shot. Like you said, you can always switch back if you don't like it.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2008 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I downloaded it yesterday and got it up and running on my dell x300 laptop today although I couldn't get a command line install to work because it couldn't connect to a mirror so I just did a normal install. Oh and the broadcom 43XX chip(not sure which one atm) worked extremely easy which was a huge surprise to me. The only problem I have is I never really got enlightenment working but i only spent 10 minutes and that was just trying to install and failed.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2008 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fedora is much slower when compare Ubuntu in the booting time. I may have a live CD tomorrow to try it.

I hope it will be better its previous version.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I first used Linux I started with a Debian OS. Then I switched to Ubuntu and haven't changed since then.

I had no experience with Linux but there's so much info on the net I managed to use it anyways.

Also, I'm quite sure I have installed rpm files on debian
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 6:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't worry much about the availability of RPM vs DEB. Instead, choose your distribution based on whether you find it comfortable to work with.
For instance configuration. You will spend some time tweaking settings (there is always some configuration to do, even if you are not a poweruser). One distribution makes this easier than the other (I am inclined to say Ubuntu does it very well).
However, one user may prefer editting files in /etc/ and similar places, while the other prefers a GUI with checkboxes and tooltips.
I think you get the idea. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 7:36 am    Post subject: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 Reply with quote

ruyss wrote:

- Mandriva uses rpm as packages and Ubuntu deb (right?) and in my experience (the little bit I have, so again, I could be wrong) there are more packages compiled as .deb and less as rpm. Again, this would make things easier for a noob like me.

There is software that converts between several package formats.

You should actually choose the distribution that feels like the right choice.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Ubuntu 8.10 Reply with quote

spock wrote:
ruyss wrote:

- Mandriva uses rpm as packages and Ubuntu deb (right?) and in my experience (the little bit I have, so again, I could be wrong) there are more packages compiled as .deb and less as rpm. Again, this would make things easier for a noob like me.

There is software that converts between several package formats.

You should actually choose the distribution that feels like the right choice.

Yeah that is true. For beginners to linux I recommend finding a distro that best supports your hardware or just one of the easier to use distros.
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