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martinz
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 Posted: Mon May 12, 2008 12:10 am Post subject: ubuntu problems |
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| i am a new ubuntu user, wonder if anybody experience here can help me out. ubuntu comes default with a gnome interface, and recently, the gnome desktop hangs on me. i can still operate some of the commands using short cut keys but i hate the unstable gnome platform. i understand there are other desktops available like kde / fluxbox etc, but i am not so sure which one provides the most stable desktops. I hope you guys can give some recommendations here, and enlighten I can I go about installing one. Thanks in advance. |
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mcwkm
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i have used a handful of ubuntu versions and i have never had a problem like this. what are the specs of the computer that you are using it on. not that you won't be able to find help here, ubuntuforums will give you an answer very quickly if needed
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Gnome was acting a bit unresponsive (e.g. 0.x second delays on simple GUI actions) so I gave XFCE a try and been loving it, got Emerald and Compiz back up on it and working great. The only thing that I missed from Gnome was automatic multimedia keys, I had to manually set up the play/previous/next buttons.
To install XFCE and associated programs and settings for Ubuntu:
run command:
sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
(100MB+ download if I recall correctly)
logout
in login screen, choose options/session and select XFCE
enjoy
http://psychocats.com has some nice info on the subject of switching desktop environments if you are interested. |
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martinz
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| mcwkm wrote: | | i have used a handful of ubuntu versions and i have never had a problem like this. what are the specs of the computer that you are using it on. not that you won't be able to find help here, ubuntuforums will give you an answer very quickly if needed |
Specs of computer is as follows. The question is that am not sure if its good to re-install the ubuntu variants like kubuntu, fluxbuntu etc on my laptop ... or just install the desktop environments ?
| Quote: | # Intel Pentium M 750 (1.86GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB)
# 14.0" SXGA (1400 x 1050) display
# 250GB, 7200RPM Hard Drive
# 2GB DDR2 SDRAM
# CD-RW/DVD-RW (CD 24x Read, 16x Write) (DVD 3x Read, 2x Write)
# Standard 6-cell battery and optional 9-cell extended life battery
# Ports: 2 USB 2.0, 1 ExpressCard slot, 1 PCMCIA card slot, 56K Modem, Ethernet LAN port, PS2 port, headphone jack, microphone jack, parallel port, VGA out port
Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2
Ubuntu 8.04
# ATI X300 Graphics Card with 64MB RAM
# Intel PRO/Wireless 2915 802.11 a/b/g internal wireless card |
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martinz
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You are right, I can feel the lag, that 0.x second of delays can be frustrating, really am not sure if I need to do anything to activate the ATI display card or to install a new desktop environment like what you have recommended. Perhaps, I should really give a try.
| krt wrote: | Gnome was acting a bit unresponsive (e.g. 0.x second delays on simple GUI actions) so I gave XFCE a try and been loving it, got Emerald and Compiz back up on it and working great. The only thing that I missed from Gnome was automatic multimedia keys, I had to manually set up the play/previous/next buttons.
To install XFCE and associated programs and settings for Ubuntu:
run command:
sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
(100MB+ download if I recall correctly)
logout
in login screen, choose options/session and select XFCE
enjoy
http://psychocats.com has some nice info on the subject of switching desktop environments if you are interested. |
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martinz
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hi krt, I've installed xubuntu desktop, but after restarting computer, and login to XFCE session, I can only see a blank screen - blue in color. I can't do anything but to restart computer and boot it back to GNOME again. Wonder if I miss any steps ?
| krt wrote: | Gnome was acting a bit unresponsive (e.g. 0.x second delays on simple GUI actions) so I gave XFCE a try and been loving it, got Emerald and Compiz back up on it and working great. The only thing that I missed from Gnome was automatic multimedia keys, I had to manually set up the play/previous/next buttons.
To install XFCE and associated programs and settings for Ubuntu:
run command:
sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
(100MB+ download if I recall correctly)
logout
in login screen, choose options/session and select XFCE
enjoy
http://psychocats.com has some nice info on the subject of switching desktop environments if you are interested. |
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krt
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I wouldn't try Fluxbuntu, I remember trying it and liking it but its not worth it, but that was my computer which was more than capable. That said, your computer is also a very capable system. Shame about the blank screen on Xubuntu...
I looked at the page I used when working out how to do it ( http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/xubuntu ) and that was exactly what I had so I'm not sure what is going on.
Maybe try:
http://www.google.com/search?q.....fter+login
(I didn't look into the results as there were too many and I'm a bit busy now)
And you may be on to something about the graphics card. It seems Gnome was trying to use the CPU for rendering instead of the graphics card. Or it could still be doing that on XFCE and I just don't notice it being it is more lightweight. All diagnostics that I knew about suggested that direct rendering and the graphics card were enabled and "in use" verified by an NVidia logo on start up and the fact that I can get TwinView up. |
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martinz
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perhaps, i should try the ubuntuforums, much more users there.
| mcwkm wrote: | | i have used a handful of ubuntu versions and i have never had a problem like this. what are the specs of the computer that you are using it on. not that you won't be able to find help here, ubuntuforums will give you an answer very quickly if needed |
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mcwkm
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| Posted: Tue May 13, 2008 8:49 am Post subject: |
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| martinz wrote: | perhaps, i should try the ubuntuforums, much more users there.
| mcwkm wrote: | | i have used a handful of ubuntu versions and i have never had a problem like this. what are the specs of the computer that you are using it on. not that you won't be able to find help here, ubuntuforums will give you an answer very quickly if needed |
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Sorry i never noticed that problem but your system should be able to run gnome fine but you could try kde although it is much different then gnome, your system should handle it fine. try ubuntuforums, you are more likely to get a fix for gnome there |
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martinz
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| gee .. thanks alot, kde works fine on ubuntu, but I am still looking for a fix for XFCE as its fast according to some feedbacks from users. |
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krt
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| martinz wrote: | | gee .. thanks alot, kde works fine on ubuntu, but I am still looking for a fix for XFCE as its fast according to some feedbacks from users. |
If you are adding a compositing engine such as Compiz, the choice of window manager (xfwm, kwin or metacity for XFCE, KDE and Gnome respectively) does not make much difference. The only reason I tried XFCE and found it to be a significant improvement was not because XFCE was faster, but instead it was something about Gnome making it go much slower than it should be. |
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bgmaniaka
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| krt wrote: | | martinz wrote: | | gee .. thanks alot, kde works fine on ubuntu, but I am still looking for a fix for XFCE as its fast according to some feedbacks from users. |
If you are adding a compositing engine such as Compiz, the choice of window manager (xfwm, kwin or metacity for XFCE, KDE and Gnome respectively) does not make much difference. The only reason I tried XFCE and found it to be a significant improvement was not because XFCE was faster, but instead it was something about Gnome making it go much slower than it should be. |
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bgmaniaka
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| martinz wrote: | | mcwkm wrote: | | i have used a handful of ubuntu versions and i have never had a problem like this. what are the specs of the computer that you are using it on. not that you won't be able to find help here, ubuntuforums will give you an answer very quickly if needed |
Specs of computer is as follows. The question is that am not sure if its good to re-install the ubuntu variants like kubuntu, fluxbuntu etc on my laptop ... or just install the desktop environments ?
# Intel Pentium M 750 (1.86GHz, 2MB L2 Cache, 533MHz FSB)
# 14.0" SXGA (1400 x 1050) display
# 250GB, 7200RPM Hard Drive
# 2GB DDR2 SDRAM
# CD-RW/DVD-RW (CD 24x Read, 16x Write) (DVD 3x Read, 2x Write)
# Standard 6-cell battery and optional 9-cell extended life battery
# Ports: 2 USB 2.0, 1 ExpressCard slot, 1 PCMCIA card slot, 56K Modem, Ethernet LAN port, PS2 port, headphone jack, microphone jack, parallel port, VGA out port
Windows XP Professional with Service Pack 2
Ubuntu 8.04
# ATI X300 Graphics Card with 64MB RAM
# Intel PRO/Wireless 2915 802.11 a/b/g internal wireless card |
your computer is very good  |
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flaran
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| You should look into other people's experienceo n the Ubuntu forums for your video card. That's most likely your problem. |
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kutar
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| flaran wrote: | | You should look into other people's experienceo n the Ubuntu forums for your video card. That's most likely your problem. |
The "Restricted Hardware Driver Manager" should helped him to get the way out, and X300 is common on many laptop and not a new chips......This may be the problem of the Gnome and other desktop package like compiz - compiz will make the desktop environment less stable.
But the problem my due to the trackerd that is eating too much resources and make Gnome failed to respond - try to stop this process and see is your system perform better.
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