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| Vipralion wrote: |
I just lol'ed at the comment about being able to fully develop a game start to end on a computer. You do realize that when I first mentioned the words videogame console I was talking only about playing the game. Yeesh.. |
I lol'ed at your inability to distinguish the purpose of a computer is not soley on gaming - that's the point I am trying to make. People buy a computer because it can do a multitude of different things that consoles will never do, because that's the difference of the two. It's true when comparing the pc and consoles in terms of gameplay, you get a good deal when buying a console, but that's why people spend more on a PC, they want to do other things. You just missed my point completely.
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| Posted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: |
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| drath wrote: |
I lol'ed at your inability to distinguish the purpose of a computer is not soley on gaming - that's the point I am trying to make. People buy a computer because it can do a multitude of different things that consoles will never do, because that's the difference of the two. It's true when comparing the pc and consoles in terms of gameplay, you get a good deal when buying a console, but that's why people spend more on a PC, they want to do other things. You just missed my point completely. |
| Vipralion wrote: | | Obviously a computer is a great buy especially if you can utilize the processor and graphics for things other than videogames such as image/video editing, and... etc. But that's not the point I was making. |
You lol at yourself then as I did not miss your point, but rather, it was you who missed mine.
I am well aware of the capabilities of a PC thank you very much.
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I have to say, this debate can go back and forth for ages, but one point stood out to me. Paying $2500 for 4 years of high end gaming is not worth it in my opinion. I bought my Xbox 360 on launch day, and I intend on having it keep me occupied until about 2009 or 2010, just like any other decent console life span. 4-5 years is what most consoles tend to last.
Sure near the half way point and beyond, the graphics may start to not look as good as the PC games might, but in all honesty, who the hell cares? Call of Duty 4 looks amazing on the 360 and it maintains a solid frame rate the entire way through. I can't really afford to build a new PC right now just for gaming, because I already have a gaming console, and the life span of these graphics cards these days are bad. Competition between ATI (AMD) and Nvidia is keeping a constant flow of new GPUs coming out almost every month, and I can't keep up with it. I think buying a console might not give you all the extras like Windows, but that's not what it's designed for. It's an entertainment system, and for that, it does well. It's huuuge savings to get a console instead of a PC, but of course that choice is not for everybody.
One day I will build a new PC, but now is just not the time. All eyes are on the consoles for the time being, with the notable exception going to Crysis (which isn't even out yet).
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The prices of graphics cards are at one of the lowest points ever. Additionally a complete gaming rig that will last that long doesn't need to cost that much. A lot of people often forget that being able to put everything on maximum settings really isn't needed. If it plays well on a lower quality it will do just fine.
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| SolidRaven wrote: | | The prices of graphics cards are at one of the lowest points ever. Additionally a complete gaming rig that will last that long doesn't need to cost that much. A lot of people often forget that being able to put everything on maximum settings really isn't needed. If it plays well on a lower quality it will do just fine. |
True, but the reason why people forget such things is because they want to be able to put their settings at max, otherwise they feel like they didn't get enough power for the money that they spent on the system...
So to get those maximum settings, you usually have to spend at least $500 on one, or more to get dual GPUs. Of course, you really don't have to spend so much, but with the recent explosion of games that make use of all the advanced features in the most expensive GPUs, people want what is available.
That's where the price difference between PCs and consoles come into play. Since console games are optimized for the console that they are being run on, they don't even need equivalent power in order to match or beat the PCs gaming performance. Keep in mind that as you run games on a Windows box, you're losing a few hundred MB of RAM just by running the OS in the background, useless processes disabled or not. Code on the PC games is less efficient because they have to make it run on millions of different computer configurations, meanwhile the console developers only need to worry about one hardware configuration.
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