Vista oversecure?

linuxdoctor · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:03 pm Post subject:

I don't recall money being discussed here. And what do you mean by REAL programme? If by that you mean those that cost too much money, is full of bugs that take forever to be fixed, comes with probable secret back-door access, susceptible to viruses, worms and trojans (sometimes being shipped by the producer himself) that are often incompatible with their own older versions then I certainly don't want to have any of them.

I'll stick with bullet proof, reliable, and open Free Software.
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The Grinch · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:00 pm Post subject:

ClickFanatic · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:13 pm Post subject:

You're the one hijacking what was a pretty constructive thread so far. Go be a troll somewhere else.
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linuxdoctor · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 6:35 pm Post subject:

mcwkm · Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:14 am Post subject:

I actually really despise propriety software but I feel that there is to much bias support here that won't accept the fact that being open isn't important to everyone and for that matter a lot of people wouldn't know the difference.

linuxdoctor · Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:46 am Post subject:

mcwkm · Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 10:56 am Post subject:

I am not discussing my machines. I run whatever piece of software I want to run somehow on my machines but a lot of my friends would be overwhelmed by choice if they tried something new. They would not know which software to use and they really don't want to be bothered trying new software if their current solution does everything they need. This is the complete reason why people still use IE6 and they don't feel a need to change it. It simply works for them if it doesn't suit there needs they google whatever they need and just find a supplement for that particular need and that supplement may or may not complete fill and replace the need for the old software.

linuxdoctor · Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:43 am Post subject:

Well, to paraphrase Ben Franklin, "Those who would sacrifice their freedom for convenience deserve neither."
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mcwkm · Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject:

What makes Ben Franklin decide anything? Just because someone said it doesn't mean it should even be discussed. A hobo told me to smoke crack everyday should I do that because someone told me to?

Choosing to accept that freedom doesn't make you truly free.

linuxdoctor · Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject:

He didn't say it, I said it. I just used the same format as Franklin did. Franklin's original is, "Those who would sacrifice their freedom for security deserve neither." Perhaps my use of the the word 'paraphrase' in this context deviates somewhare from the standard definition since to paraphrase means to restate a text in a different manner to convey the same meaning. In this case, I was restating the text in a similar manner but conveying a different meaning.

With regard to Franklin's original I would agree with you and disagree with Franklin. Franklin either forgot or ignored the fact that without security there is no freedom.

However, my saying, which borrows only the style from Franklin, "Those who would sacrifice their freedom for convenience deserve neither" is perfectly correct. The reason for that is, naturally enough, because I am infallible. Smile

Naturally, of course, my use of the word 'paraphrase' in a manner that is at variance from the strict dictionary definition does not negate my infallibility but, rather, expands that word's definition by virtue of my use of it with that particular meaning. Wink

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mcwkm · Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2009 11:55 pm Post subject:

linuxdoctor · Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:57 am Post subject:

Myst · Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 9:43 am Post subject:

linuxdoctor, you're my hero Silly

As for this argument (which has somehow been twisted to Microsoft vs Open Source stuff again) no comment really. It's hard to take any argument linuxdoctor (can I call you "The Doc"?) takes seriously anymore because his persona is very stubborn Silly

ClickFanatic · Posted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:33 pm Post subject:

No matter how much you disagree with linuxdoctor, he does mention something which every computer user should realise: the 'closed source' applications that you allow to run on your system have a very large freedom to do what they like. Many applications aren't very verbose about what they do (and even if they are, they could be mis-informing you), so you have to rely on trust in the developer.
The question is, how can you trust the developer? There might be multiple possible answers to this question, but one of them is definitely 'open source'.
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