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61% |
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30% |
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7% |
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LP-SolidRaven
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| Jacky wrote: | According to what I know the Nokia 5510 was released in 2001. They were using the regular earphone jack then, and switched to Pop-Port upon colour-screens.
I don't know how many Nokia phones you have owned before, but if that's the last Nokia phone that you had, then you are way behind time. |
Uhm, I have had many nokia phones after that, a lot more.
| Quote: | | Nokia phones back then don't have much features. They released another model with MP3 player back then, but because of the technology then and its bulkiness, it was poor in sales and they stopped creating MP3-dedicated phones until after they had slider phones. |
It was the only worth while feature they had on phones back then.
| Quote: | | Same for lower-end Sony Ericsson phones. |
Lower end price range for Nokia is anything bellow 250 euro in that case.
| Quote: | Sure, they do.
The Memory Stick is a flash memory card. You can't use that to compare to a phone plugged into your computer with a cable.
If you take out the mini/microSD card, plug it into a SD adapter and into your computer, no drivers are needed too. |
Please explain why I can simply plugin my sony ericsson with the cable and read/write to the card as well.
| Quote: | | A smartphone is not a PDA with phone support. Smartphones are smartphones. PDAs are PDAs. Smartphones are phones that provide advanced capabilities beyond that of a typical mobile phone. There's no standard definition for it. |
Define a typical mobile phone...
| Quote: | | Because they are more of a PDA than a phone. People seeking a phone may not know of it. |
Or cause they're not advertised as much as the huge phone brands.
| Quote: | True, but it's still popular than the others.
As for quality, it depends on the features. Phone manufacturers are provided with parts of its source code and they can introduce additional features themselves.
And coming back to popularity, Symbian has a 72% market share in the smartphone market, Windows Mobile having a mere 6% and Linux having 13%, both not even half of Symbian's. |
Both windows mobile and the ones based on linux often have a lot more features (mainly due to more compatibility with PDA's)
| Quote: | | And a simple poll in a mobile phone talks forum will tell you that Symbian is the most preferred OS, even if you provide Linux and Windows Mobile. |
Most of them probably even haven't used phones running anything else than symbian. The only comment I have on Windows CE/Mobile or whatever it's named these days is that you sometimes need to restart the phone cause it runs out of memory after a few weeks.
| Quote: | What I have said may not be based on anything. I have never seen people in those forums "towards one manufacturer only". Even if you believe so, do it on multiple forums.
It's up to you whether to visit those forums a bit or "avoid forums that is for a particular group of people". |
Well, the group of people I'm talking about are the phone maniacs that go around 24/7 calling people and texting everybody without a real reason and the whole symbian thing is a perfect example to it. I doubt most of them ever even used something different.
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Jacky
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 4:30 am Post subject: |
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| SolidRaven wrote: | | Uhm, I have had many nokia phones after that, a lot more. |
I grew up with Nokia too. Both my parents own Nokia phones and I grew up as Nokia progresses.
What's the last model that you owned?
| SolidRaven wrote: | | Lower end price range for Nokia is anything bellow 250 euro in that case. |
250 Euros would be around $500 here.
I saw the Nokia 6120 Classic at $400+ here, which should be 200 Euros.
| SolidRaven wrote: | | Define a typical mobile phone... |
As in standard features, like phone, SMS and low-end camera?
| SolidRaven wrote: | | Or cause they're not advertised as much as the huge phone brands. |
That's why hardly anybody knows them.
| SolidRaven wrote: | | Both windows mobile and the ones based on linux often have a lot more features (mainly due to more compatibility with PDA's) |
Because they are mostly made for PDAs, while Symbian is mostly made for smartphones.
| SolidRaven wrote: | | Most of them probably even haven't used phones running anything else than symbian. The only comment I have on Windows CE/Mobile or whatever it's named these days is that you sometimes need to restart the phone cause it runs out of memory after a few weeks. |
That's probably what you expect. Believe me, people who hangs around those forums tend to own more mobile phones than the average people, testing out different manufacturers and writing reviews about it.
| SolidRaven wrote: | | Please explain why I can simply plugin my sony ericsson with the cable and read/write to the card as well. |
I asked around.
The Memory Stick is automatically recognised as an USB storage device.
USB storage device drivers are installed on most systems by default.
And it's the same if you take out the micro/miniSD card, plug it into a SD adapter and then plug it into your computer (there's a port on most laptops, and if you don't you can buy a USB SD port).
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LP-SolidRaven
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| Posted: Thu Jan 10, 2008 12:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Jacky wrote: | I grew up with Nokia too. Both my parents own Nokia phones and I grew up as Nokia progresses.
What's the last model that you owned? |
The last one I used was a 3510i, simply cause the other ones already broke down and I still had that one from before.
| Quote: | 250 Euros would be around $500 here.
I saw the Nokia 6120 Classic at $400+ here, which should be 200 Euros. |
You don't count in the fact that the taxes here are 21%. And it seems as if most companies simply add something to the price, simply cause it's europe.
| Quote: | | As in standard features, like phone, SMS and low-end camera? |
I don't consider a camera a standard feature...
| Quote: | | That's why hardly anybody knows them. |
It would be a lot better if that would change.
| Quote: | Because they are mostly made for PDAs, while Symbian is mostly made for smartphones.
That's probably what you expect. Believe me, people who hangs around those forums tend to own more mobile phones than the average people, testing out different manufacturers and writing reviews about it. |
I probably have had more phones than most people, of several different brands. And the only brands I don't have real comments on are Samsung and Sony Ericsson.
| Quote: | I asked around.
The Memory Stick is automatically recognised as an USB storage device.
USB storage device drivers are installed on most systems by default.
And it's the same if you take out the micro/miniSD card, plug it into a SD adapter and then plug it into your computer (there's a port on most laptops, and if you don't you can buy a USB SD port). |
Well, ironically not a single nokia I've had was recognized without installing the drivers from the cd :S
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<bart416> we celebrate the fact that this piece of rock made one rotation around a glowing ball of plasma that is kept together due to its own gravity well
<njsg> HAPPY NEW YEAR
<Easter> ^^
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Jacky
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 2:36 am Post subject: |
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You know, as long as you plug in an USB device which is not common, you will need to install the drivers.
I don't know about Sony Ericsson, but I think when you plug it in, you can only browse the Memory Stick content. That's probably why it's recognised as an USB storage device.
For Nokia, if you plug it into your computer, you can browse the Gallery content, your Contacts, and your memory card. If you prefer not to install drivers, you can choose to take out the micro/miniSD card and plug it into your computer. 
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LP-SolidRaven
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| Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:41 am Post subject: |
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| Jacky wrote: | You know, as long as you plug in an USB device which is not common, you will need to install the drivers.
I don't know about Sony Ericsson, but I think when you plug it in, you can only browse the Memory Stick content. That's probably why it's recognised as an USB storage device. |
I can browse both the phone's memory and the memory stick content without installing a single driver.
| Quote: | | For Nokia, if you plug it into your computer, you can browse the Gallery content, your Contacts, and your memory card. If you prefer not to install drivers, you can choose to take out the micro/miniSD card and plug it into your computer. |
Don't want a card reader, I tend to use my usb ports for other things 
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<bart416> I just realized something
<bart416> we celebrate the fact that this piece of rock made one rotation around a glowing ball of plasma that is kept together due to its own gravity well
<njsg> HAPPY NEW YEAR
<Easter> ^^
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I'm going to have to agree with the Sony Ericsson side of the fence here... Overall I have always preferred anything as long as it's not a Nokia. Every time I pick up a Nokia either the physical design is disgusting, or the GUI of the software is disgusting. You can never win with Nokia, and it's actually kind of sad.
A few years ago I bought a Sony Ericsson w810i and I've been using it ever since. Not once have I ever felt like I have fallen behind in the cell phone scene. Even after almost 2 years it still manages to hold its own against newer models.
And yes, Nokia phones are always overpriced as soon as they contain any "new" technology. I would love to own a N96 or whatever, but how can I justify the price tag? It's almost nauseating.
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