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ruyss
Proud 2 B lifeless
Joined: 08 Jul 2004
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| LP-Harvey wrote: | | LP-Trel wrote: | Harvey's idea is on the right track, but not entirely what I had in mind.
I believe L2P's days of offering public free webhosting services are over. These days it is far too easy to get a fairly decent account for almost no effort (compared to what we require).
I think the community will be much better off without the spammers or others that come here just at the end of the month for a few days to post the minimum required to keep their accounts.
When L2P started under a different name the mission statement was simply to provide free webhosting without advertisements to deserving websites that would not be able to stay online without it. That core mission has been lost in attempting to grow and I believe a return to that core mission statement by going private is what is required.
By invitation only services would allow us to be much more selective about who is hosted here. |
Trel has been contemplating a change in the way the hosting service here is structured (not the service itself, but rather, the community underpinning the service).
However, Trel is not AWOL. I got a few words in with him not too long ago.
To the best of my knowledge, the service is not going anywhere. Its just how the service is distributed is what may be changed.
Just hang tight folks. |
Wow. I haven't been this exited about something for ages. Can't wait to see what is going to happen! Apparently, it's quite a lot of work, otherwise Trel would have reset the monthly fee days ago.
This is big new and I can't wait to find out what Trel has in store for us. |
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LP-Harvey
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Don't take my words for actions currently being taken by Trel.
I have no idea what he's doing right now. It was just that the theme of this thread was teetering on, "Is LLP in shambles and about ready to close down?"
This was my re-assurance that it wasn't. |
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ruyss
Proud 2 B lifeless
Joined: 08 Jul 2004
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Location: Belgium
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| Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Don't take my words for actions currently being taken by Trel.
I have no idea what he's doing right now. It was just that the theme of this thread was teetering on, "Is LLP in shambles and about ready to close down?"
This was my re-assurance that it wasn't. |
ok  But the fact that Trel hasn't collected the monthly fee yet makes me almost certain that something is going on. I'm just hoping that he doesn't let us wait too long before announcing it.
Or just a short message that he is (or isn't) doing something at the moment would be nice. He doesn't have to say what exactly he's doing yet, but just a short notice that he's doing something (or not  ). |
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LP-Harvey
Forum Moderator
Joined: 23 Feb 2004
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:20 am Post subject: |
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| LP-Trel wrote: | | Until I tell them otherwise the PBPP system is still very much in effect. |
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Voldemort
Unhandled Exception
Joined: 27 Apr 2005
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Location: In a Galaxy far, far away
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Well at least I hope we get enough time next month to replenish the lost days in this one. 17 May is just too late. 
By the way, I'm also in favor of having the old spam-free forums.
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martin
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Joined: 17 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| LP-Harvey wrote: | | LP-Trel wrote: | | Until I tell them otherwise the PBPP system is still very much in effect. |
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Oh! theese are not good news. Well.. I think 13 days is still enought 
Thankyou Harvey for the information.
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ruyss
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Location: Belgium
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: |
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| Voldemort wrote: | | By the way, I'm also in favor of having the old spam-free forums. |
Aren't we all?
Still, the post from Trel (mentioned before in this thread) still makes me think that something is going on and there will be changes soon. He said himself that the way that lifelesspeople gives hosting for the moment can't be continued. I'm of course not a 100% sure, but I still can't get rid of the idea that lifelesspeople is going to change. And not just a little change, but a big one
| LP_Trel wrote: | That core mission has been lost in attempting to grow and I believe a return to that core mission statement by going private is what is required.
By invitation only services would allow us to be much more selective about who is hosted here. |
I do hope that this doesn't mean that the community (the forum) will get lost. It's become a habit to check lifelesspeople on a regular basis and it would be a really sorry thing to lose it. The unique way of having to earn your hosting is one of the reasons I will never leave lifelesspeople.com and that this place remains the best free webhosting on the internet. Sure, we could all get another free host that will give everything that llp has without the monthly fees. But in my opinion, the reason that a lot of the elder members that have been here for a long time continue on staying here is the community.
I've been here for almost three years now and my respect for Trel and what he is doing with llp is huge. So I have complete faith that Trel would never throw away the forum and that any change that will (or will not) happen will be for the best. Trel has been running lifelesspeople for years now and I believe that he'll continue to fight to keep the quality of lifelesspeople.com the best possible. |
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Scar
Lifeless Person
Joined: 15 Dec 2004
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Location: Chuck Norris's nightmares.
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| Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:09 pm Post subject: |
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| ruyss wrote: | | Voldemort wrote: | | By the way, I'm also in favor of having the old spam-free forums. |
Aren't we all?
Still, the post from Trel (mentioned before in this thread) still makes me think that something is going on and there will be changes soon. He said himself that the way that lifelesspeople gives hosting for the moment can't be continued. I'm of course not a 100% sure, but I still can't get rid of the idea that lifelesspeople is going to change. And not just a little change, but a big one
| LP_Trel wrote: | That core mission has been lost in attempting to grow and I believe a return to that core mission statement by going private is what is required.
By invitation only services would allow us to be much more selective about who is hosted here. |
I do hope that this doesn't mean that the community (the forum) will get lost. It's become a habit to check lifelesspeople on a regular basis and it would be a really sorry thing to lose it. The unique way of having to earn your hosting is one of the reasons I will never leave lifelesspeople.com and that this place remains the best free webhosting on the internet. Sure, we could all get another free host that will give everything that llp has without the monthly fees. But in my opinion, the reason that a lot of the elder members that have been here for a long time continue on staying here is the community.
I've been here for almost three years now and my respect for Trel and what he is doing with llp is huge. So I have complete faith that Trel would never throw away the forum and that any change that will (or will not) happen will be for the best. Trel has been running lifelesspeople for years now and I believe that he'll continue to fight to keep the quality of lifelesspeople.com the best possible. |
having to earn the hosting by posting isnt really unique anymore. tons of other cheaper webhosts have it.
I doubt this forum will go anywhere. I mean it has a loyal member base such as me and Kovacs and others. We're always here, and some of us don't even use the hosting here.
I think you'd still come here even if you didnt have to post for the points.
Even if Trel stopped webhosting completely, im sure this forum would still exist.
We're a forum of LifeLess People 
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Stwong
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Looks like the points rolled over a while ago, seeing as mine are back down to 14 PBPP.
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Augural Sentinel
Mr. Banana
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| I am evidently still being charged 400 PBPP even though my hosting was canceled moons ago. Yesterday it was -800. Now it's -1200 (for those of you who can't do math). |
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martin
Cafe Montevideo
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| Seyeko wrote: | | having to earn the hosting by posting isnt really unique anymore. tons of other cheaper webhosts have it. |
Yes, this is true but Lifelesspeople was the first (the one who came with the idea) and also the best one. It worth
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Jacky
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Joined: 01 Jan 2005
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Location: Earth Password: dd4b21e Sex: Male
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:08 am Post subject: |
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| martin wrote: | | Seyeko wrote: | | having to earn the hosting by posting isnt really unique anymore. tons of other cheaper webhosts have it. |
Yes, this is true but Lifelesspeople was the first (the one who came with the idea) and also the best one. It worth |
I don't think it's the first. Xore's Cash MOD was already available before the Pay By Post Points System, so some free hosting sites might have used it before LifelessPeople, just that they might not have last till now.
If this is some sort of joke, let it stop here. Trel, just give us a notice on what you are doing. Go on IRC and chat at least for a few 30 mins. That's fine for us already. Just make sure you let us know you are still alive and kicking.
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Brute
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It doesn't matter if LifelessPeople was the first to use the PBPP system or not. All that really matters is that LLP was, and probably still is, the best place to use the system
| Seyeko wrote: | having to earn the hosting by posting isnt really unique anymore. tons of other cheaper webhosts have it.
I doubt this forum will go anywhere. I mean it has a loyal member base such as me and Kovacs and others. We're always here, and some of us don't even use the hosting here.
I think you'd still come here even if you didnt have to post for the points.
Even if Trel stopped webhosting completely, im sure this forum would still exist.
We're a forum of LifeLess People |
Yea, I first came here back in 2004 only for the webhosting. For a while, it was like I was obsessed with just getting as many points as possible, and points weren't hard to get because the forum was so active. I remember getting 150+ pbpps in a single day. In 2005 I started to get sick of posting here so much for the points, and I eventually lost my webhosting in September or October of that year I think, about a year after I joined. After that I never really posted here at all, and so I ended up having something like -1000 or so pbpps.
But, of course, Seyeko is right.
A few months ago, I think, I was wishing I wanted to find a place online where I could just chat with people about anything. I decided to come back here because I needed some advice/suggestions, and I've stuck around since then. I don't have webhosting right now, and I don't plan on making websites any time soon. I'll still hang out here though.
I love the community here, one reason being that everyone seems to get along pretty well. How often do you see stupid arguments or 'flame wars' here? Not too often. It's nice having a place where I can go to have "mature and intelligent" discussions having to do with just about anything, then at the same time, I can go and goof off if I want to without being accused of spamming (The Dump). We are smart people who have a sense of humor, and that's what makes us lifeless people
Unfortunately, it seems as though some of us here are worried and/or doubtful about the future of LifelessPeople. Things haven't been going too smoothly around here lately with Trel not being around much and whatever, but I think just talking about it has made the situation seem worse than it really is. I'll admit it, I'm a little anxious myself to see what will happen here, but I'm not too worried. There is no way a place like this could just die off. Trel will eventually get things cleared up, and changes will be made if need be. I know that even if there are changes to the service or the way the service here is distributed, the forum will still be here.
So for now, let's just go with the flow. There will always be great service and a great community to go along with it. Anyone who believes otherwise deserves to receive either a long tickle torture or an atomic wedgie 
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Jacky
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 3:41 am Post subject: |
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I agree that getting PBPP in the past is really really easy, especially in 2005.
One could get 2000+ PBPP in a month, even with the 55 PBPP maximum per post limit. Back then we could enjoy lots of PBPP being converted to VSP, and there were lots of active topics.
Nowadays, when I browse the forums, I just feel that something is missing... Only a few of the topics posted are interesting now.
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ruyss
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| Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: |
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| Jacky wrote: | I agree that getting PBPP in the past is really really easy, especially in 2005.
One could get 2000+ PBPP in a month, even with the 55 PBPP maximum per post limit. Back then we could enjoy lots of PBPP being converted to VSP, and there were lots of active topics.
Nowadays, when I browse the forums, I just feel that something is missing... Only a few of the topics posted are interesting now. |
I wouldn't say that it's extremely hard to get the required PBPP now either. Yes, there have been less interesting posts, but in my opinion that's because there are so few new posts started. There used to be a lot of new posts each day, now there are only a few new ones in a week.
But saying that the forum isn't going anywhere is a bit harsh in my opinion. Yes, things seem to be going slow at the moment, but we should all do our best to keep llp as alive as possible. The forum isn't dead yet and I don't think that Trel or any other loyal member here will let it die.
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