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manizzle Ardent Poster

Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 90
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:37 pm Post subject: Why do you people hate us? |
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I am muslim. I have 3.5 gpa like every quarter. but still, why do people think of us like lowly stupid people. i was born here in the U.S I am a citizen with the passport and everything. My dad is a high computer engineer and my mom is a teacher. Why do people hate us? Just because I am muslim? We, the true muslim, ARE NOT TERRORISTS. WE DO NOT KILL JUST BECAUSE WE WANT TO. WE ARE PEACE LOVING PEOPLE. Some one please tell me why this is happening to muslims all around the world? Just because of Palestine, iraq, afganhistan, and the 9/11. We muslim are not like those dirty peopel that only call themselves muslim from the outisde but inside truly belive in nothing. they try to ruin the name of all muslims around the world. What do you have to say about this?
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sunshine21 Lifeless Person

Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 453
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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What happened to you exactly? That is making you feel this way or are you just talking in general. Hi, my name is Dawn. I am a Christian(People think christians are ignorant). But I have a friend his name is muhammad and he is muslim(we go to college together). When the 9/11 thing happened I did not hate him. He is my brother and my friend. Yes he annoys me. But it is not because of his religon. There are ignorant people in this world(about 90%,joke). But truth be told there are ignorant people who can be stereotypical and mean and hurtful. Stay away from those people who dont like you. And if you are not comfortable telling them who you are then dont. If they hate you because of who you are so be it. Just stay away from them. Love yourself your family and your religon. Dont care about what other people think. Peace _________________ The Little Girl with a Big Voice. |
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ladymacbex Pink Haired Blunder

Joined: 06 Mar 2005 Posts: 724 Location: Voting for the worst...
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:05 pm Post subject: |
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I'm sorry that you've encountered some prejudices because of your religion. After 9/11, there seemed to be a definite spike in those sorts of things. There are zealots in every religion, but those people should not reflect on the faith as a whole and I'm sorry that's happened to you.
I agree with Sunshine. If people are going to be that close-minded and ignorant to hate you just because of your religion, stay away from them. They're not people you would need in your life, anyway. Surround yourself with people that understand what being a true Muslim is about and just don't worry about those that are ignorant and nasty. _________________
| Believable Picnic wrote: | | "I think...you think...I'm a...big fat nothing...I think...that's just...fine!" |
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manizzle Ardent Poster

Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 90
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2005 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Magpie Loud and Northern

Joined: 22 Apr 2005 Posts: 1141 Location: Yorkshire
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:27 am Post subject: |
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I have a couple of Muslim friends and I hate to say it but it's the same here in England. My friends have also suffered verbal abuse by ignorant idiots who brand all Muslims as Suicide Bombers or Terrorists simply because of their religion. These people have absolutely no understanding of the Muslim faith and go out of their way to cause hurt and misery to innocent Muslims who are just going about their business. We've even had race-related riots in some cities where gangs of mindless thugs have picked on people just because of their appearance. It sickens me to think that this sort of thing goes on. The actions of the minority are taken as being representative of the majority but it's just not the case.
I'm sorry you've had to put up with this horrible treatment but please believe me that not everyone thinks the same way. _________________ [img:72f68c01cd]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v225/YorkshireMag/newcastle_fc_fan.gif[/img:72f68c01cd] |
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Scoby007 LP Regular

Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Posts: 869 Location: Ireland
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Hey Man I am sorry that you have been treated like that people can be so mean sometimes, dont give up though we are not all the same
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thunderboltz Hear the thunder!

Joined: 21 Apr 2005 Posts: 1809
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:30 am Post subject: Re: WHY DO YOU PEOPLE HATE US!!!! |
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| manizzle wrote: | | Some one please tell me why this is happening to Muslims all around the world? |
Majority people in countries of the West are not very familiar with Muslims and the Islamic way of life (until lately), I believe. And all the hype that suddenly started seems to revolve around Islamic communities. And the more ridiculous factor is that these communities claim to be doing these atrocious activities in the name of God. This suddenly brings a negative feeling about the religion and those who practise it. That is what has happened.
And when all the major problems around the world, like kidnapping VIPs, suicide bombing, terrorism, etc. all seem to have a Muslim connection, even normal educated and world-knowing people tend to doubt.
I myself, living in India, have a good number of Muslim friends. I know that Muslims too are normal people. I am deeply saddened that you have been treated preferentially because you are Muslim. My advice: Don't feel defeated by all this. Stand up and fight for your rights wherever you are. And if its still too much, then just ignore...carry on with your life. Its not worth it to be bothered by things like this and ignorant people. You have only one life. Live it to the fullest.
It is not terrorism in Islamic countries that has made the terror almost synonymous to Muslims. No, it is the fact that terrorists say that they are doing this for God. That is the sole reason. And I'm afraid there is nothing you or I can do about that. _________________ LiVinG iN a DemOcraTicalLy eleCtEd CoMmunIsT stAtE |
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krt ...

Joined: 11 Jan 2005 Posts: 4669 Location: Down Under
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:14 am Post subject: |
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| I am Muslim however Australia seems to have more acceptance of other races compared to other countries. There are obviously places where it happens at unacceptable levels (relatively, I am not saying that if it is done in little bits it is acceptable). And anyone that judges you by the actions of infamous people just because they are of the same race is ignorant and -- I do this as well -- feel better aboiut yourself that you are amongst the more intelligent people in the world when someone discriminates against you. Most people who do are ignorant. According to their logic, people should hate Americans for what Bush does, or hate descendants of Nazis because of what happened over 50 years ago but having nothing to do with that person. |
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John Ryan Grandmaster Poster

Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 318
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:24 am Post subject: |
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I hate it when people shun somebody just because of their race or religion. That act is utterly despicable. It just shows how low these people really are.
One thing that I would like to point out, I probably shouldn't, is when you said:
| Code: | | WE[Muslims] ARE PEACE LOVING PEOPLE. |
I don't mean to offend you or anything but I do not believe that statement to be true. You can be a nice peace loving person and I don't doubt that you are but Islam in itself is a cruel religion. If you believe in the Koran as the infallible word of Allah then you have to believe that you should:
| Code: | O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. |
_________________ No heaven's not a place that you go when you die. It's that moment in life when you touch her and you feel alive. |
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seren Sands' Groupie

Joined: 03 Dec 2004 Posts: 1146 Location: Wales
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:52 am Post subject: |
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| Hi Manizzle, I'm a Pagan and heh, yes, folks tend to believe all sorts of strange and innaccurate things about us as well. In fact, I could name you a thousand and one types of people who are misunderstood. We humans have a tendency to misunderstand, distrust and even hate anyone who is not exactly like ourselves. Personally, I go by the maxim "divided we fall, united we stand". That the human race would prosper if we only all stood together. |
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Wilfredo Ardent Poster

Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 86
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thos people who hate you and make fun of you must be really ignorant, i don't listen to ignorant people, it might be hard, but remember, they don't know what they're talking about. _________________ [Dumb comments go here] |
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manizzle Ardent Poster

Joined: 29 Nov 2005 Posts: 90
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:45 pm Post subject: |
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Well, i am glad that so many people actually beleive in what i say. also, i remember some one saying that islam is a cruel religion. It may sound like it. Let me explain to you what the true jihaad means if you read the quran ( not koran) Jihaad= the fight with the satan or the shaaitan in the mind on what to do the right thing or the wrong thing. Yes, when the imaam says to fight for islam we will, but that has not happed for the last 1300 years since Imam Moiz was in power. All these other people beleive that the Imam has come and told them to fight the Americans. That is just an excuse to kill the people they hate. They are fighting for an unjust reason therefore not really doing jihaad. All muslims must do jihaad with the shaitaan in there mind. the shaitaan tells us to do wrong things and we must do battle wth him IN THE MIND not with swords. we must fight the shaitaan or satan so that we can peacefully go along with our religion. I hope now you people can better understand islam. The word islam in arabi means peace. Assalamoalaikum means peace to you, but we misinterpret it as helllo. assalam means peace and olaikum peace to you.  |
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Wilfredo Ardent Poster

Joined: 06 Oct 2005 Posts: 86
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:04 pm Post subject: |
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kool, i now understand more about islam, and i always thought it was koran also, now i can tell that to my social studies teacher, let's see what happens (she always thinks she's right) _________________ [Dumb comments go here] |
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sunshine21 Lifeless Person

Joined: 13 May 2005 Posts: 453
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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I am glad you explained what those statements above really meant. Some people take things so literally. If you are not of a certain religon then you are not goint to fully understand the characterists and beliefs of that religon. _________________ The Little Girl with a Big Voice. |
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Annihilator Lifeless Person

Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Posts: 547 Location: __________ ~/.home^made^hell
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Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2005 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| John Ryan wrote: | | Code: | O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).
They desire that you should disbelieve as they have disbelieved, so that you might be (all) alike; therefore take not from among them friends until they fly (their homes) in Allah's way; but if they turn back, then seize them and kill them wherever you find them, and take not from among them a friend or a helper. |
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This does not have to mean that we should literally kill people who do not belive. It can be interpreted as fight them with words, try to make them muslim. And of course this could be in states in war, which terrorist attacks surely aren't. Why did no other country help Iraq when Saddam asked for Jihad. Because Saddam was nothing but an unbeliever, an extremist, a terrorist.
Muslims invent the first code of war: do not kill innocent, young and old, do not destroy property etc.
So I highly doubt that muslims are not peaceful people. Or that they should be cruel. _________________ ¤¤ RELENTLESS, PERSISTENT, UNYIELDING, UNREMITTING, INEXORABLE
INSISTENT, HARSH, UNRELENTING, RUTHLESS, UNCOMPROMISING, OBSTINATE ¤¤ |
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