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Rob1981 · Posted: Sun Apr 02, 2006 6:18 pm Post subject:

Well I'm 2 for 3 on picks so far.

WM spoilers so far:
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Big Show+Kane beat Carlito+Chris Masters, RVD won Money in the Bank, JBL beat U.S champ Chris Benoit to win the title.

I hope JBL keeps the title a while, he is a decent wrestler and great on the mic.

I'm betting Rob Van Dam uses the title shot at the ECW PPV. WWE is just too predictable at times. Since RVD is basically the biggest name from ECW left in WWE, it's obvious that will happen probably. While Rey and Benoit did appear in ECW, they weren't there as long as RVD was.

I didn't order Wrestlemania, I'm just reading the results online. Money in the bank looked good, but my views on RVD haven't changed. He certainly isn't a main eventer. I hope his title reign is short (if WWE is dumb enough for him to hold the belt later this year).
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Obecorp · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 1:37 pm Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Mon Apr 03, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject:

Wrestlemania was pretty predictable. It's almost always the faces winning. This year only 3 heels won: Edge, JBL and Mickie James.

In WWE video game news, it's very possible the new Smackdown vs Raw game will have more than 60 wrestlers. 30 from each brand, plus legends. THQ and Yukes have promised a longer season mode (something they always do, but never really keep that promise). This time around, there is 3 branches for story mode: champion, challenge and a "general" path.

I hope it's good, THQ and Yukes haven't made a great "must have" wrestling game since Here Comes the Pain and Shut Your Mouth. While the Smackdown games usually sell well, it doesn't mean they are great. Fans of the series just buy up anything, because of the slightly updated rosters/new added things.

I certainly hope GM mode is improved alot. The GM mode in Smackdown vs Raw 2006 was poor. THQ and Yukes should've researched or played EWR, to get better ideas. In case people don't know, EWR is Extreme Warfare Revenge. It's a great free wrestling sim game, where you control a federation in basically every aspect. It's for the computer as a free download. There is pay versions, but they don't use real wrestling names due to copyright issues.

In TNA news, the "Lethal Lockdown" (Sting's army against Jeff Jarrett's army), will be an 8 man match now. I'm thinking it will be Sting, Rhino, Ron Killings and Lex Luger (or Rick Steiner) against Jeff Jarrett, Scott Steiner and Team Canada.
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Rush · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:55 am Post subject:

Another PPV I didn't really like. It was better than most other WWE PPV's in the last year, but the results of some matches outweighed the good parts by far. That's the real problem. WWE makes PPV's that are quite OK when looking at the matches themselves, but they botch it by booking lame endings and wrong winners.

The opener was OK, but I don't understand why they keep a lousy tag-team like Kane & Big Show together (probably because they don't know how to use them otherwise) and hint towards a split of Carlito and Masters (who both are not that over that a feud helps them much). Money in the Bank was a good match, the action was nice, every athlete competed hard and Rob Van Dam is the right winner. He is always over just because of his personality and style. It's good to give him that title shot option, although I agree that it's pretty obvious that he will use it at One Night Stand. I like the whole idea of Money in the Bank, it gives the bookers some freedom - once there is a champion that doesn't fit anymore, you can cash the shot or start a short feud. If you're content with your title holders, you can simply cash in the shot without any story in a quick attempt after a title defense and let the champion keep it. Either way, it's a win-win situation for the bookers.

JBL certainly deserves the US title as much as he deserved the WWE title. With his gimmick change he has changed into one of the more entertaining figures in WWE and being one of the most loyal workers for the company it's only fair to have him hold some gold.

The women's title match was surprisingly good for a women's match, apart from the **** in the end. Mickie is the right winner, though, the title had to change after belonging to Trish for a year. Boogeyman vs. Booker was also OK, despite the limited abilities of Boogeyman. The segment backstage was hilarious, at least he has a funny gimmick when he's not able to wrestle the greatest matches. Undertaker winning over Mark Henry, well it was so clear from the start that they don't end Taker's streak, that the match didn't bother me anymore. Watched it, forgot it immediately.

Edge vs. Foley was the match of the night and is so far my match of the year candidate. The action was so intense, we saw good use of a lot of hardcore tools, it remembered me a lot of good old ECW days. I never was a big fan of Edge, but this match has proven that he is able to wrestle great matches, that he is able to work tough and hard spots, that he is able to handle a crowd as well as any champion. His run as champion ended way too soon and after this performance I don't doubt that he will win the title back sooner or later.

The three-way WWE heavyweight title match was way too short to be good. I mean it was a nice match from what was shown, but giving those three athletes under ten minutes to show their stuff is foolish. They should have had 15-20 minutes at least. Apart from that, I hate the ending. Rey Mysterio as champion is awful. He doesn't look like a heavyweight, every match he wrestles he is the absolute underdog and while underdogs may squeeze out one or two wins once a while, they don't win consistently. It's even more horrible to have this all in the name of Eddie. Shame on you, WWE, you totally exploited his death, this isn't right by any means. I sincerely hope that Rey loses his title as soon as possible because even Boogeyman would make a more believable champion just because of his size.

The second women's match was nothing to remember, the usual filler to enable people to visit the bathroom and fridge before the main event.

Main event and it was pretty boring. Cena can't carry a match and HHH had to do it all by himself. The best moment of the match was the entrance, watching HHH as Conan and Cena as Al Capone was pretty funny. But the match and the ending were far from memorable. Listening to the crowd you can't really understand why WWE keeps Cena as their champion. He was booed out of the building, the crowd was behind HHH all the way and he was supposed to be the heel in the match. Please WWE, strip Cena off the title. He doesn't wrestle, he doesn't entertain, he plain and simply sucks. Any champion would be better than Cena at the moment.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:16 am Post subject:

Big Show+Kane FINALLY lost the tag titles. I somehow think WWE will do the whole "any members can defend" type of thing with them.

They did it in the past with the 3 man Demolition in WWF. I believe WCW did it as well.

I have heard rumors of another cheerleader group coming in to Raw (to feud with Spirit Squad). Orlando Jordan was scheduled to lead this group. I'm not sure if this is still planned or not.

Also on Raw, Chavo "quit" after he lost to Shelton Benjamin. Chavo dedicated the match to Eddie. I somehow think this is a way for Chavo to go to Smackdown.

Two newcomers appeared on Raw, and are already getting pushed to an extent. They started a program with Ric Flair. These two men are Armando Alejandro Estrada (former OVW wrestler) and Umaga. Umaga used to be known as Jamal in "3 Minute Warning".

I'm all for newcomers, but a feud with Flair right away? Seems a bit too early for that.
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Rush · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 9:21 am Post subject:

It's a good way to start a career working against a legend like Flair. Win a feud and your standing improves, lose it and you don't lose much because everybody expects you to lose.
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Obecorp · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 2:14 pm Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 3:35 pm Post subject:

Tyson Tomko quit WWE last night, he is expected to wrestle in Japan next. Good riddance to a bad wrestler.

I was reading a Raw report online (since I didn't see the show), and it seemed like Carlito turned face on Raw. I hope that's the case, I would rather have him be a face than Chris Masters.
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ajfo · Experienced Poster Joined: 07 Nov 2005 Posts: 59

Haven't seen RAW yet, but I guess I already know what to expect Silly

Tomko was pretty average, and since Christian went, he lost his RAW appearances, so its not a big deal

Carlito as a face would be pretty interesting, he's good as a heel, so I'd like to see how he turns that around

And of course, Rey Mysterio should not be heavyweight champion, period. Its obvious they pushed him because of Eddie's death, and that sucks...I don't think he'll have it long

Rob1981 · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject:

I think TNA might sign Tomko whenever they can.

I don't know if it's official or not, but Matt Hyson (formerly Spike Dudley) is rumored to head to TNA. Since WWE owns the Spike Dudley name, I think TNA will call him Brother Matt or something like that.

Smackdown is tomorrow. World champ Rey Mysterio vs Randy Orton is the only match I know that will take place.
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Obecorp · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 10:25 am Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Sun Apr 09, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject:

Obecorp · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 4:38 pm Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:27 pm Post subject:

I could've gone to Raw tonight (since it was in my state, and only about 1 hour away), but decided not to.

I'm glad I didn't. From what I read about it, it didn't look that good.

Big Show and Kane look to be broken up now, because of Kane "going crazy". Which is basically a way to promote Kane's upcoming horror movie. Blah, I really don't want to see yet another Kane/Big Show feud.

Don't forget, TNA Impact is starting on Thursdays this weekend. A replay will be on Saturday, in case you miss the Thursday show.

In other TNA news, the planned Christopher Daniels/Jushin Liger match for Lockdown won't be taking place now. Liger is coming into TNA sometime, but not for Lockdown.

Lockdown looks okay so far. The only match I have a problem with is: Bob Armstrong vs Konnan in an "arm wrestling" match. Since Lockdown is all cage matches, this will just be a joke. Fans don't want to see some arm wrestling in a cage. Obviously, someone will get thrown into the cage. If someone doesn't, the match will be even more of a joke.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject:

Looks like I was right, Spirit Squad can defend the tag titles with any two members.

I think this could be interesting, but the tag division needs more teams. Since Show/Kane are now gone, as well as Carlito/Masters, there isn't any regular teams left!

Goldust and Snitsky teamed on Heat, so that's one new team I suppose. Typical WWE though, they didn't explain why those two teamed up.

Speaking of teams, WWE needs to name the two people that are the Gymini on Smackdown. I think this is one of the few times in history, where a team has been around for months, and not have names for the two members.

Also, I just learned Gunner Scott (the guy that beat Booker T on Smackdown) is actually OVW's Brent Albright. I'm glad it's not some random jobber that won't be around again after the upset win.
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