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[Rob1981]

The 5-man tag champs is a good idea. It would work alot better if there was other teams in Raw's tag division though.

It worked with the 3-man Demolition many years ago. That was back when a decent tag division was around though.

OVW has several teams, so I'm thinking WWE might bring some of them onto Raw. Some have worked dark matches, so that's a sign they should be coming pretty soon.

From the looks of it, Randy Orton was suspended because of his comments towards the divas. He has been known to insult them and treat them badly backstage.
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Gymini FINALLY have names: Jesse and Jake. They actually had a somewhat decent match with Mexicools on Smackdown last night.


Regal wearing a dress is lame as hell. Who wants to bet this pirate crap from Paul Burchill will get old quick? I don't think it will last more than 2 or 3 months longer.


Dalip Singh is now known as the Great Khali. This feud seems just like the one Undertaker had with Giant Gonzalez in 1993. I hope this is shorter, and ends soon. Why does Undertaker have to feud with a big man? I would be fine with Undertaker feuding with Mark Henry, rather than Dalip. What about a heel turn for Boogeyman, then he feuds with Undertaker? I certainly don't think Dalip can cut it in WWE. Plenty of people on Smackdown that Undertaker could be feuding with, instead of some new guy that isn't that talented.


In TNA news, their first Thursday Impact took place a few days ago. In my opinion, it just didn't seem that good.

The teams for the "lethal lockdown" match were announced:

Sting's Army is Sting, AJ Styles, Ron Killings and Rhino

Jeff Jarrett's Army is Jeff Jarrett, Scott Steiner and America's Most Wanted


I either think TNA forgot about Sting having someone on "speed dial", or one of the three will get hurt or back out of the match.

Also on Impact, Joe became X champ again. Matt Hyson (Spike Dudley) debuted in TNA by helping out Team 3-D. He is now known as Runt. What a dumb name. WWE copyrighted many things, but I'm sure TNA could've thought of something a bit better.
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but he is a runt, in comparison to his two "brothers". anyway, i haven't been watching tna often, so i odn't know, this weeks impact was the first i've watched in a while. who exactly does sting have on speed dial? at any rate, i don't think stings team is better than jarrets team.
Jarett can take on sting, Steiner can muscle out Styles, and AMW can overtake Killings and Rhino. thats my view on the matter anyway.
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[Rob1981]

If Sting does use his speed dial, it will be Lex Luger or Rick Steiner I bet.


Jarrett used his speed dial to bring in an old WCW friend: Scott Steiner. So Sting will probably do the same.
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well, sting doesn't have very long to make that move, theres only one more tv broadcast before the ppv. They'll probably start the show with one of stings guys vs. one of jarrets guys (probably steiner), and that match'll end up with steiner pulling the steiner recliner on one of stings guy until hes unconscious, after which they'll annouce a new guy at the end of the show,(at the very end, for suspense) and that'll lead up to the ppv.
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[Rob1981]

It's not a guarantee that someone will be replaced on Sting's team. If no one does get "hurt" for storyline purposes, it means TNA either forgot about the speed dial or they couldn't find anyone decent enough.


In either case, Lockdown doesn't look that special. A gimmicky PPV isn't the way to go.

WCW had Uncensored, for the most part those PPV's were horrible.


WWE has Cyber Sunday (which used to be Taboo Tuesday, until they changed the name this year). Some matches are decent on it, but it's not that special either.

If I remember right, the first Lockdown wasn't that great.


I will post the full Lockdown card later, and give my comments on it.
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[Rob1981]

Here is the Lockdown preview for this Sunday:

*All matches will take place in a steel cage*

-NWA world champ Christian Cage vs Abyss

My thoughts: I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Cage doesn't belong in the main event. He is basically the "underdog" of the match, since he is smaller. Cage will retain probably.


-Sting's Army (Sting, AJ Styles, Rhino, Ron Killings) vs Jeff Jarrett's Army (Jeff Jarrett, Scott Steiner and America's Most Wanted) in a "Lethal Lockdown" match. Weapons will hang from the cage, and the cage will have a top on it. Jarrett's team will win, to continue the feud.

My thoughts: Eh, the whole Sting/Jarrett feud is almost a rip off of WCW/NWO. The top faces against the top heels.


-X champ Samoa Joe vs Sabu

My thoughts: It's been rumored Sabu might not show up. If that's the case, their will be lots of angry fans I bet. If Sabu no shows, they better have a decent replacement.


-Team 3-D vs Team Canada in an "Anthem" match

My thoughts: I hope this ends the Team 3-D/Canada feud. It gets tiresome that the tag division is dominated by AMW, Team 3-D and Team Canada. While other teams: James Gang, LAX, Naturals, etc, get pushed off the PPV, or stuck in junk. This is officially a 6-man tag match, but the 3 Team Canada members aren't known.


-Bob Armstrong vs Konnan in an "Arm Wrestling" match

My thoughts: Did Bob give TNA alot of money or what? This match shouldn't be on PPV. Arm wrestling in a cage? Just to keep LAX/James Gang out? That's lame and TNA doesn't seem to realize it. It's obvious, LAX and/or James Gang will enter the cage, and a random brawl will happen anyway. I can safely say this will be the worst match of the night.

-Christopher Daniels vs ? (Someone else from Japan, since Jushin Liger couldn't make it, like originally planned)

My thoughts: Should be good, Daniels seems to never have a bad match.


That's the card as of now. Possible other match: A World X cup preview match.


All in all, Lockdown doesn't look that great. It's just gimmick crap that makes steel cages mean less. At least when WWE did Taboo Tuesday, it wasn't all just one match type with slightly different rules.

In TNA news, several new DVDs have been officially announced. Here is some of them: best of Christian Cage, TNA's 50 greatest moments, best of Sting and best of Samoa Joe.

I can understand Sting and Joe, but Cage doesn't need a DVD yet. I'm sure it will be all TNA matches, with some exclusive interviews/commentary, and that's it. TNA just wants to cash in on Cage's popularity, which is just lame.

As for the "50 greatest moments" DVD. I don't think there really has been 50 great moments. TNA has only been around since June 2002. So this June will be TNA's 4th anniversary. In the 4 years, I would say there has been 20 or so great moments, not 50. I'm hoping it's a 3 disc set at least, with a fair amount of matches. This DVD isn't set to come out until late this year or early next year. So I suppose some more "great" moments could happen this year, and make the DVD.
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[Rob1981]

Smackdown used to be a good show, but now it's just gotten worse over the past few weeks.


On the most recent Smackdown, Regal had to try on different dumb outfits for Paul Burchill. I wonder what Regal did to earn this crappy storyline with another lame gimmick? I hope it ends soon.

Great Khali squashing Funaki on Smackdown helps nothing. We know the guy is a giant, it doesn't mean he should squash a jobber. Not to mention, Funaki doesn't even wrestle on Smackdown much anymore.

One King of the Ring quarterfinal is set: Kurt Angle vs Booker T.
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[Rob1981]

In big WWE news, ECW is returning. Paul Heyman will be in charge of the brand (which will basically be a 3rd WWE brand). Several former ECW stars of the past have been signed for it. As of now, it looks like ECW matches will be taped before Raw and/or Smackdown (so they don't have to do three total TV tapings a week). ECW is also expected to have a television show.


In my opinion, this is just yet another thing that shows WWE is desperate for more fans. ECW is long and dead, it shouldn't be back fulltime. It won't look the same as the old ECW, especially when many ex-ECW guys are in TNA (and it's doubtful they will join, since they are contracted with TNA most likely). Also on the new ECW roster will be several development wrestlers from OVW and DSW. I somehow don't see this new ECW lasting very long.

WWE is also looking to have DX return. Shawn did the motions on Raw, and it's likely it will happen. Shawn and Triple H, plus whoever else I guess. Obviously not Billy or Road Dogg, since they are in TNA as the James Gang. X-Pac is possible, but I doubt it. He has had many chances in WWE, I just don't see him back.

King of the Ring came back recently, and shouldn't have. It wasn't that good in the first place. Some of the tournament matches were alright, but usually it was pretty obvious who would win it all.

If WWE wants to improve, they need to listen to fans more than they do. I'm sure many want ECW back, but if that's the case just bring back the Hardcore title. A full-on hardcore brand just isn't needed. What will WWE bring back next, In Your House? Triple Cage (from WCW) ? The Nation? I mean come on now, there needs to be an end to all of this. Things in the past (for the most part) belong there. Things just aren't the same, when brought back.


TNA Lockdown took place tonight, here is some highlights from it:


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Low Ki made his return to TNA, and defeated his former Triple X partner Christopher Daniels. Samoa Joe retained his X title against Sabu. Christy Hemme made her debut by giving an envelope to Mike Tenay. Tenay read it, and it says a new person is in charge. This new person put Larry Zbyszko on probation, and reinstated Raven. Obviously, they didn't reveal the person who is now in charge. Christian Cage retained his title against Abyss, and Sting's team won Lethal Lockdown.

I didn't see the PPV personally, but it was pretty predictable for the most part. Basically all the faces won, what is with that? I can see pleasing the fans, but that's going a little too far.

TNA is just trying too hard if you ask me. They bring some ex-WWE divas, and then put them in junk storylines. Who really cares about all the garbage between Gail Kim and Jackie? Then Christy just comes in, to deliver an envelope. So she is just some assistant to the new person in charge, I guess.

TNA needs some name talent to draw in fans, but recently released/fired WWE stars, isn't always the way to go. Hopefully the new person in charge, isn't someone that was let go from WWE in the past year or so.
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I don't think the full-fledged return of ECW's brand is yet officially confirmed, just because the former bigger stars are experiencing great success in their own ventures (in both the WWE and TNA), and it wouldn't be as great to try to build a promotion from developmental talent alone. But, if the rumors are true, it actually has more potential than what you made it seem. ECW has the loudest and most passionate wrestling fans, and to see a brand of wrestling like the ECW product will undoubtedly be good for business. Last year's "One Night Stand" pay-per-view was one of the highest buyrates last year, so there is definitely a demand for it.

As far as King of the Ring goes, it usually is pretty obvious who is going to win the King of the Ring. It is usually the one who the WWE is trying to push into main event status. But, if it's a way to help put some of the stars over, like Lashley (who I still think will win the tournament), then so be it. I see a Lashley-Booker T final in this tournament though just because of their little altercation that they had before this tournament started.

Kurt Angle and Rey Mysterio is supposed to have a match next week in Smackdown when it emanates from England. This should be an outstanding match, but it is obvious that Rey would retain the title. JBL is back in the main event picture and said he was going to challenge the champion in the last episode of Smackdown. He would probably have a better program with Rey Mysterio than with Angle (they are probably gonna have a smaller underdog vs the arrogant American storyline). I'm seeing this happen around the Judgement Day PPV.
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[Rob1981]

Here is where I read about the return of ECW:

http://www.wrestlingobserver.c.....?aID=16088

A pretty reliable site that is usually right.


A new Rock movie is going to be released at Cannes Film Festival (or already has, I'm not completely sure). The movie looks better than the crap Rock usually has done. Here is a brief plot description:

The Rock plays the character of Boxer Santaros, a movie star who gets amnesia and becomes a paranoid schizophrenic who can predict the future. Sarah Michelle Gellar plays his girlfriend and Mandy Moore plays his wife.

I probably won't see it in the theater, but I'll rent it when it comes on DVD probably.

In other wrestling news, the Brock Lesnar/WWE lawsuit is finally settled. Brock can now do wrestling and MMA (mixed martial arts) under certain restrictions. Brock probably won't be able to work for TNA for a while, because of this. He has shown some interest in doing MMA, so he will probably do that first.
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[Rob1981]

In WWE news, Gregory Helms returned to action during their European tour.

Also, the jobber that Umaga beat on Raw, is expected to get an OVW contract from WWE. The guy is Steve Lewington, and he previously had an OVW contract in 2004.

Brian Kendrick and Paul London have been called "The Hooligans" at recent house shows. They have new music as well.

Sabu is expected to be the first major name for ECW. He is close to signing a deal.

This sucks for TNA, since they lose Sabu now. Sabu wasn't a TNA regular, but fans still loved him. In my opinion though, Sabu is overrated and a bit washed up. Look at Sabu years ago, and Sabu now is just bad compared to it.


Also, some big news for TNA....

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Rick Steiner, Lex Luger and Buff Bagwell will appear on the next few weeks of Impact. They didn't wrestle, they just appear for the whole storyline of "who will be Sting's partner". I somehow think TNA will keep them around (Rick Steiner most likely to stay) for a few months at least.


I hope they don't last long. TNA is starting to turn into a place for many ex-WWE, WCW and ECW stars. They have the known talent in Jeff Jarrett, Christian, Sting, Team 3-D and some others, I think that's enough. They need to rely on their own talent, and not more known people as much.
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