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Rob1981 · Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject:

I'm wondering why Undertaker hasn't appeared yet either. There is still one Smackdown left before Judgment Day, so I would think he would appear on that.

I hope Great Khali gets pulled from Smackdown after Judgment Day. I would rather have Undertaker feud with someone people know, instead of a new guy that no one cares about much.

Rob1981 · Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 10:58 am Post subject:

Sacrfice was last night, and here is a quick rundown of the results:

-Jushin Liger beat Petey Williams in a World X Cup match (great match, even though the PPV got cut off during part of the end for alot of people watching)

-Tag champs AMW beat AJ Styles+Christopher Daniels (after a nightstick shot)

Decent match, but lame ending. The whole stipulation was Gail Kim+Jackie were barred from ringside. So how it ended was: Gail was in the raftors and threw a nightstick into the ring.

-Raven beat A1

DUD match.

-Bobby Rude beat Rhino

Yet another DUD. I think they should've just made Raven+Rhino vs A1+Bobby Rude, instead of 2 duds in a row.

-James Gang beat Team 3-D (Devon+Ray) after BG used a pipe on Devon.

Average match. I suppose it was entertaining in some spots, but it's still too little, too late. Both groups are lame and stale gimmicks that just need to go.

-Petey Williams won the 16-man World X cup Gauntlet match (After the match, Kevin Nash attacked Puma and insulted the X division)

The World X Cup isn't over, since there is a tie in points between Team USA+Canada. They didn't determine what would happen, but I'm assuming a tie breaker match to determine the cup winner.

-Sting+Samoa Joe beat Jeff Jarrett+Scott Steiner

An okay match.

Post match saw Sting get attacked by Steiner with a chair, then Jarrett hit him with a guitar. Joe just walked away.

A Sting/Samoa Joe feud could be fine, as long as Joe doesn't align with Jarrett+Steiner.

-World champ Christian Cage beat Abyss in a Full Metal Mayhem/TLC match

Amazing crazy match with lots of action, bumps and great moves.

In some notes from the PPV: Gail Kim fired Jackie Gayda from managing AMW. They announced the new person in charge would be revealed at Slammiversary. Rowdy Piper, Vince Russo and Ultimate Warrior were three names they mentioned as possible choices. I doubt it's any of those three though.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 4:39 pm Post subject:

According to wrestling observer (a pretty reliable wrestling site), Sci-Fi network is expected to get the ECW television show in June.

What a joke, wrestling isn't sci fi related very much (there is some science fiction gimmicks in wrestling, but not alot).

I somehow don't think ECW will last on Sci-Fi. Yet another reason to hate cable: non-science fiction shows on the sci-fi channel.

Other examples:

Music Television (MTV)- Probably the first, to basically do alot of things not related to what their channel is supposed to specialize in.

Other music channels- Basically have followed suit, just to compete with MTV's audience.

G4/Tech TV- Plenty of non-video game and tech things on this channel. They certainly need to just go off the air. I doubt anyone would miss this crappy channel.

But anyway... back to wrestling. I can't remember if I posted it here or not. Harry Smith is expected to debut on Raw in June. Harry is a great young talent, and is the son of the late British Bulldog. In other WWE news, Ken Kennedy is expected to return to Smackdown soon. He has recovered from his injury.

In a little TNA news, Samoa Joe was injured at the Impact tapings on Monday. It's not known how long he will be out. He was expected to feud with Sting and/or Scott Steiner, so plans will need to be changed now.
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Obecorp · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject:

I'm not sure if Judgement Day is gonna be too great of a show. The Rey Mysterio-JBL match doesn't really look too attractive right now, just because Rey Mysterio has totally been getting owned in all of his previous matches, despite the fact he is champion. And because of that fact, he is getting less and less credebitily as a champion and a main eventer, and the match itself wouldn't be all that attractive. Not to mention, since the match was announced, we haven't seen a lot of in ring action from JBL either. Most of the times he was on TV, he was just taunting Rey. It's pretty obvious though that Rey will probably win this match. JBL would make a decent World champ, but I don't think he's gonna walk out with 2 belts. He's not as good as the character he plays on TV portrays himself to be.

There are probably gonna be a few good matches. The Lashley-Booker T match has some sleeper potential. If they are trying to make Lashley one of the top guys, he has to really win fans over in this match. Booker should also help him do that as well. And even though there's not that much recent buildup, and they just threw the match together, Benoit-Finley should be alright as well. They had a little bit of history against each other in WCW concerning the TV title, so the WWE is somewhat trying to push that in their match. I'm guessing too, that the tag championship match should be pretty entertaining to watch. I don't know if MNM would lose their belts though. The WWE usually leads the fans to try to think one way, but when all is said and done, they go the other direction. Kurt Angle-Mark Henry might be pretty good, but their match in the RR wasn't too highly regarded. I'm guessing it will be a bit better.

Not sure if I'll watch Smackdown again this weekend, since I'm probably gonna be having fun. It's pre-empted again in my area anyway because of a baseball game (that I happen to be going to). Even then I probably won't catch the replay either, cuz it'll probably be on Saturday night.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Fri May 19, 2006 9:27 am Post subject:

Judgment Day should be average, that's about it.

It's official, WWE Smackdown will be on the CW (UPN/WB merging, to become one channel later this year). Same time slot: Fridays at 8 Eastern/7 central.

Kane's movie "See No Evil" opens this weekend. I doubt it will do good, since Da Vinci Code is out this weekend as well I think. The movie looks below average to me. I hate how all the previews make Kane out to be an evil person in real life (basically just to help his wrestling character). Also in interviews that talk about it, some people have said he is a better horror villian than Jason and Freddy.

I guess they are very desperate to have the movie succeed, since it's the first WWE movie.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Sat May 20, 2006 10:52 am Post subject:

To the previous person that posted: all those were things I posted a while ago. Why didn't you read the rest of the topic?

Christian Cage is the champ in TNA now, but certainly shouldn't be. He is average, and nothing more. He is entertaining, but certainly shouldn't have gotten the title so soon.

Anyway, WWE Judgment Day is tomorrow. Here is a full preview with my picks in bolds, followed by thoughts after the match.

-World champ Rey Mysterio vs U.S champ JBL (match is only for World title I believe...)

JBL has to win this. Rey has been squashed by three men in the past 3 weeks: Mark Henry, Great Khali and Kane. WWE shouldn't make Rey such an underdog, that keeps taking a beating but continues on to retain the title at a PPV.

-Kurt Angle vs Mark Henry

No way is Angle losing his first match back, unless there is interference from someone or whatever.

-Undertaker vs Great Khali

I highly doubt Khali has a chance to win this. Rumors have been going around, Khali will be gone after this. I hope so, he is a no talent that should've never been in WWE.

-Chris Benoit vs Finlay

Benoit all the way, and then hopefully Finlay goes off TV. He isn't that talented, and he is old. Smackdown has plenty of young people they aren't even using much: Funaki, Nunzio, Vito, Scotty, Miz and so on.

-Booker T vs Bobby Lashley: King of the Ring final

Hard to decide, but I'm picking Lashley.

-Tag champs MNM vs Brian Kendrick+Paul London

Probably BK+PL, since they have been on a winning streak against them lately.

-Cruiserweight champ Gregory Helms vs Super Crazy

Helms will easily retain. If Helms losses the title, it will be to someone more over and better in the talent department, hopefully.

-Jillian Hall vs Melina

MNM will help her win I'm betting.

The card looks average, nothing more or less. Best matches will be: KOTR final, tag titles and main event.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:07 pm Post subject:

Here is the full Judgment Day results

SPOILERS, in case you haven't seen it yet.

1- Brian Kendrick+Paul London won the Tag titles from MNM

Decent match, and it's a shame that MNM is now broken up, due to backstage issues. In real life, Nitro+Melina had backstage problems with people. For storyline purposes, this is what happened at Judgment Day: Melina+Nitro attacked Mercury after the match. Later on the show, Teddy Long fired Melina+Nitro. (In real life, both are most likely going to be suspended for a little bit at least)

2- Chris Benoit beat Finlay

An okay match, I hope Finlay goes off TV soon. WWE needs to focus more on the youth, not old wrestlers.

3- Jillian Hall beat Melina

An okay match, given both women don't wrestle much in WWE. After the match, Kristal and Jillian fought... so that's the new Smackdown woman feud I bet.

4- Cruiserweight champ Gregory Helms beat Super Crazy

Good match. Hopefully Helms continues as champ for a while, he is the best cruiserweight on Smackdown in my opinion.

5- Mark Henry beat Kurt Angle by count out.

An average match, but lame ending.

6- Booker T beat Bobby Lashley to become King of the Ring 2006 (after Finlay interfered)

Good match, but another lame ending.

7- Great Khali beat Undertaker

I'm not sure what WWE is thinking. This feud should be over! Khali is a waste of TV and PPV time.

8- World champ Rey Mysterio beat U.S champ John Bradshaw Layfield (after kicking a chair into his face)

Good match, but dumb ending. After the match, Chavo Guerrero came out and congratulated him.

I only picked 3 winners correctly. So at least WWE isn't as predictable this month for their PPV. Overall Judgment Day had too many dumb and lame endings to matches.
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Obecorp · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 4:23 pm Post subject:

I didn't watch the Judgement Day PPV yesterday, cuz I was extremely busy. But here are a few of my thoughts anyway...

I had a feeling the Gregory Helms-Super Crazy cruserweight match was gonna be pretty good. Super Crazy is one of the reasons why the cruserweight division is pretty exciting, even though it's usually just been featured in Velocity. Gregory Helms is definitely the best cruserweight in the roster, and he definitely deserves that belt! It's a shame though that the WWE continues to piss on the cruserweight division. If this match had some more build up in Smackdown, it would've been a match that could've increased the buyrate. Are the buyrates for Judgement Day out yet? Do you happen to know Rob? I'm guessing it wasn't all too high.

I thought Lashley was gonna win, but it could've easily gone to Booker T because of how they were swaying the storyline. But, this will probably lead to a continuation of their feud, which will probably be used to help push Lashley some more, and hopefully bring out more of his personality. It could also be used as a reason to put Booker T in the main event. He deserves it. But, what a lot of people don't know is that in many occasions, the runner-ups of the King of the Ring also had fairly decent futures in the WWE (the Rock, Kurt Angle, RVD, etc).

I had a really good feeling Rey would win. I didn't think JBL would've won, because Rey didn't have the belt long enough. Plus, enough people are cheering for Rey, and many probably like seeing an "underdog champion". However, I do think that the credebility of Smackdown's championship is diminishing, which is too bad. I don't mind seeing Rey as champ, but maybe he should lose it soon. If not, he should definitely win more of his matches, no matter who it's against.

As far as Khali vs Undertaker, I don't understand what's happening here. I really don't believe that Khali deserves this kind of a push yet. If he beat the Undertaker, it shouldn't been in such a squash match. But, since the only buildup to this match was just showing how freakishly big this Khali guy is, you can't blame that this match turned out the way it did. I'm thinking they'll do more with this story line though. They spend years building up the Undertaker's legend, and it wouldn't be right to piss it off to some freak like Khali.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject:

Obecorp · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:40 am Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject:

See No Evil looks horrible to me, I certainly won't ever see it. Movies like that are dumb in my opinion. Not much plot, with tons of violence and gore is boring to me.

In WWE news, their new CD "Wreckless Intent" is out now. It looks alright, I will end up buying it. I collect and own all WWF/E CD's (regular CD's, not ones done by Cena or anyone else). For the most part, they are usually decent. I hope a 2nd Anthology set comes out. I want more of the classic themes. I don't download things, so I'm not going that route to get them.

In TNA news, The best of Samoa Joe DVD is coming on June 6. It looks pretty good, I might get it. Here is the lineup:

-vs Sonjay Dutt: Joe's TNA debut: Slammiversary 2005

-vs Chris Sabin: No Surrender 2005

-vs AJ Styles in the Super X Cup finals: Sacrifice 2005

-vs Jushin Liger: Bound for Glory 2005

- 8-man X elimination match: Genesis 2005

-vs AJ Styles: Turning Point 2005

-vs Christopher Daniels: Final Resolution 2006

Plus Impact matches and exclusive interviews and more. The DVD is about 4 hours total.
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mr.x · Ardent Poster Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 95

i used to like wresting but now it is just boring, they have no cool charchters, all the shows are predictable, like when one thing happens i will now what happens next, the video games are fun but i don't play them any more, and the one thing i hate about the wresting shows are that they make all the good matches on payper view, and i dont want to pay 30 dollars every 2 weeks to watch it, i think they should make it free the owner vince is already rich.

-Mr.x-

Rob1981 · Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject:

Obecorp · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 8:01 pm Post subject:

I wouldn't really judge the Kane vs Kane storyline just yet. I could see the WWE going decently far with this, believe it or not. Many wrestling fans are very familiar with the "history" of Kane, so this little thing may turn in some interesting storyline developments that a typical wrestling fan may be drawn to watch. I just don't agree with the fact that the shorter "Kane" is chokeslamming the taller Kane.

As far as Kurt Angle going to ECW, I don't think it's a mistake at all. He can bring a style that I believe would clash beautifully with the passionately unique ECW style. At the same time, it'll give Kurt a chance to broaden his horizons even more as a performer, if that's possible. I was pretty shocked to learn that Kurt was the Smackdown ECW draft pick, but it looks like it's a good fit. I don't think it's gonna be anything like how it was with the Alliance/WWF angle because these 2 brands were continuously feuding with each other til the very end, in a "struggle for power". The ECW/WWE feud that's goin on now doesn't look like that, and looks like it's just being used to re-introduce the ECW brand, for ECW already has their own TV show and touring schedule.
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