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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject: |
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Vince certainly doesn't know how to run things right anymore.
Raw last night is a good example of that.
DX reunited, as expected and will now face Spirit Squad at Vengeance. Other lowlights of Raw included: Umaga squashing yet another, Viscera getting airtime (when most people know he is a no talent and don't care about him anymore).
Here is a preview of Vengeance, which is on June 25:
*WWE champ Rob Van Dam vs Edge (likely to be a 3-way including John Cena...)
*Triple H+Shawn Michaels vs all 5 members of the Spirit Squad (hopefully the tag titles don't go on the line, otherwise I can bet DX will have them for a while).
*Ric Flair vs Mick Foley in a 2 out 3 falls match (could be decent)
*I.C champ Shelton Benjamin vs Carlito vs Johnny Nitro (This sudden push of Nitro in singles could be good, but I somehow think he is going to get lost in the shuffle soon)
Likely other matches: Randy Orton vs Kurt Angle, Viscera vs Charlie Haas plus more I would imagine. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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Obecorp Lifeless Person

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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:45 pm Post subject: |
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I've actually caught the ECW pay-per-view. I thought that overall, it was a really good show. The energy of the ECW fans, I believed, made the show that much more exciting. There was pretty good wrestling too. Even though it ended in a no-contest, the Sabu vs Rey Mysterio match was probably one of the best matches I've ever seen. Excitement of ECW is pretty high right now. I don't think ECW is going to fail. The way they it is being cross-promoted, it will do pretty well. Plus, fans are actually excited about it (unlike when they tried to bring in WCW back in 2001). The marketers in the WWE have been pretty smart also by not only feeding off ECW's old fan base, but attracting even more fans from the general fanbase that are just tired of seeing the same stuff that Raw and Smackdown put every week.
JBL wouldn't go to ECW full-time. It's been officially announced that he's the new color man in Smackdown. It was actually announced during the PPV (how could you have missed that?). It's good that they found a way to keep him on TV. He's one of the better people on the mic. I don't know what to expect of him as an announcer though. Since he made his career from being a self-absorbed character, you'd think it would be hard to picture him calling other people's matches. It should be interesting.
As far as Vengeance, I too think that Cena is probably gonna be involved in the championship match as well. He's been in every title match for about a year now, and even though many fans are tired seeing him in main event, it would just be weird to just yank him off. I don't think he's gonna win back his title though. Either Edge is gonna win, or RVD is gonna hold on to it a little longer as an ECW wrestler (in order to help builup ECW even more). They've suddnely thrown up a lot of matches yesterday. I guess that's what happens when you spend most of your time promoting the ECW PPV, and having the next PPV less than two weeks later. But, since the 3rd brand is helping promote this show, I guess there's some time for buildup.
I've honestly expected more from the DX reunion. There has been so much buildup for it, but when all was said and done, it just wasn't as exciting as it was when they first formed about a long time ago. Honestly, I don't know what to exactly make of the DX storyline either. Obviously, the Shawn Michaels and HHH characters have totally changed since DX first formed (they're significantly older now, and I don't know if it would seem right for them to do their "sophomoric" antics). I guess they're just bringing DX back primarily to rebel against Vince McMahon. But we'll see whereelse this will go. _________________ [img:5f924247e9]http://obecorp.com.ru/banner.gif[/img:5f924247e9] |
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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | JBL wouldn't go to ECW full-time. It's been officially announced that he's the new color man in Smackdown. It was actually announced during the PPV (how could you have missed that?). |
As for JBL, I didn't see One Night Stand. From what I read online, it said JBL was going to commentate for ECW. It seemed weird, so I guess they just did a typo or were misinformed.
Well the ECW show debuted tonight, and it debuted horribly in my opinion.
First off, just because the show is on Sci Fi, doesn't mean there should be lame gimmicks no one cares about. The Zombie jobbed to Sandman, and a vampire gimmick did a promo in the back.
Then there was the pathetic attempt for "T and A" with Kelli.
I'm glad NBC Universal didn't go live with ECW, otherwise things would've been just out of control. The fans at One Night Stand caused NBC to make WWE change the live plan.
In my opinion, swearing is plain dumb. Many ECW fans think it's hardcore, but it's really not. It shows they are immature and can't grow up.
Anyway, back to the show. One hour, and three below average matches. Sandman squashes Zombie in less than a minute. Kurt Angle beats Justin Credible in under 2 minutes. Sabu wins a hardcore battle royal, which lasted longer (but certainly wasn't anything special). The ending of the battle royal was a copy of a Royal Rumble finish.
They had one hour, and they give the fans this crap? Plenty of promos, along with 3 matches that are very bad. I forgot to mention, they showed the FULL Tazz/Lawler match from One Night Stand. Come on now, they had plenty of talent at the event, and they replay an entire match from Sunday?
Come on Obecorp, the ECW debut was bad. Hopefully you admit that at least. I figured it would be bad, but not that bad. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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memoryproblems Liberal Progressive

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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:34 am Post subject: |
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no shows are really good at their debut, i mean, the writers have to get rythem, the wrestlers have to get used to it all, and the first few shows are mainly just shaking rust off. After a few weeks, i think you'll see alot better show on ECW.
the zombie stuff was weird, i didn't quite understand that, but whatever i guess. dreamer did a number on him. i'll disagree with you on the matches, they were moderately exciting. not boring, but not good. all in all, i think it was a good step to building a decent future for the company. I plan to continue to watch ecw, i think it was at the least more interesting than raw or smackdown with their stupid wrestlers and suchforth. _________________ -memoryproblems- supporter of truth at frozenglaze.com
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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 6:04 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | no shows are really good at their debut, i mean, the writers have to get rythem, the wrestlers have to get used to it all, and the first few shows are mainly just shaking rust off. After a few weeks, i think you'll see alot better show on ECW. |
If you are in reference to ring rust, that's no excuse. These ECW wrestlers didn't come out of retirement to wrestle. They have worked indy shows plenty of times, so ring rust can't be used as an excuse.
In WWE news, Goldust was fired today. Good riddance to stale gimmicks. Hopefully Viscera, Eugene and Snitsky go next. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2006 2:40 pm Post subject: |
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TNA Slammiversary is tonight, it looks average.
I've heard Slammiversary is supposed to be TNA's version of Wrestlemania, basically. From the looks of this card, it doesn't seem like it though.
The complete card with my thoughts below and my picks in bold.
Main event: NWA world champ Christian Cage vs Jeff Jarrett vs Sting vs Ron Killings vs Abyss in a "King of the Mountain" match
Thoughts: It's been spoiled there will be a new champ, so unless TNA changes it last minute... Cage won't be champ after this. Sting doesn't have much ring time left in him, so they will give him the title. The match should be decent, and one of the better matches of the night.
Scott Steiner vs Samoa Joe
Thoughts: Joe has to win this, Steiner shouldn't. Young talent is the future, not old washed up steriod freaks.
Kevin Nash vs Chris Sabin
Thoughts: Same as Steiner/Joe, the younger wrestler has to win. This whole Nash vs X division is a boring storyline.
Tag champs America's Most Wanted vs AJ Styles+Christopher Daniels
Thoughts: I just don't see AMW losing the titles. If they lose the titles, I can bet TNA wants Team 3-D or James Gang to be next champs.
Team 3-D vs James Gang in a "Bingo Hall brawl"
Thoughts: I could care less about this match. Both teams are stale and need gimmick changes or need to go. TNA's tag division could be much better without these two teams.
Sonjay Dutt vs Petey Williams vs Senshi vs Alex Shelley vs Jay Lethal vs Shark Boy (winner gets a X title shot sometime in the future)
Thoughts: I think either Alex or Sonjay will win this. This could be the match of the night, if they get enough time.
Rhino vs Bobby Rude+Scott D'Amore in a handicap match
Thoughts: Filler match that people will use to go to the bathroom and all that, I bet.
Also at the pay per view, the new face of management debuts. The obvious choice would be Raven, but hopefully it's not him.
Overall, the card has decent matches but it's still average. Tag titles, 6-way match and main event should be the best 3 matches of the night. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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memoryproblems Liberal Progressive

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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:02 am Post subject: |
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From the looks of it, Jarrett was stripped of the title at the end.
I bet on Impact, Jim Cornette (new face of TNA management) will officially announce that.
No interesting action? The X division match looked amazing, as did the tag titles match and the main event. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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memoryproblems Liberal Progressive

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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:13 am Post subject: |
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well, it looked like it, sortof. but if he is, stripped of his title, which he won, with some help, who gets it? perhaps this'll lead up to some great tournament that will last all of the upcoming month. they should just give jarret the title, and be done with it. if he does get the title, sting will sure be pretty pissed off. I think that tna should keep jarret the champ, then have sting challenge him next month, during which jarret would retain, and then have steiner get all angry about lack of spotlight.
personally, who better to hold the title? sting? too old. Cage? too much ego. Killings? hasn't been much of a star in the last year or so. Abyss? big man, but he lacks the potential to become a higly popular wrestler. Jarret is a good figure, and even if the fans hate him, they watch him. he's got charisma, and talent.
Either way, i think its settled that the champion isn't going to be christian any longer. a good thing too. I was getting sick of him and his ego.
I didn't personally watch it, but i don't know, it had some high points, but as a promotion, the TNA still needs work.
Also, i think that slammiversary is meant to be tna's opponent for wrestlemania, because its the anniversary event for tna. it's going to become a better event as the years go on. _________________ -memoryproblems- supporter of truth at frozenglaze.com
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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 7:40 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Also, i think that slammiversary is meant to be tna's opponent for wrestlemania, because its the anniversary event for tna. it's going to become a better event as the years go on. |
TNA has been around for several years now. They still put on too many below average/average PPV's. They have the talent, but would rather do crap like Team 3-D/James Gang. They love to push the wrong people alot it seems.
As for Cage's ego, I haven't heard of anything about that. If you are in reference to his on-air character, that's not really his real life personality.
In my opinion, AJ Styles or Christopher Daniels deserve the NWA title the most. They have been with TNA since the start basically, and they always put on great matches. They are certainly main event material, and would be better than people like Sting and Cage in the main event.
I'm thinking there might be a Slammiversary rematch of some shape or form, at the next TNA PPV to decide the NWA champ. I doubt they would determine it on Impact. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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Raw tonight didn't seem that good.
Spirit Squad got slimed by DX (using a stupid thing from the kid channel Nick, certainly isn't going to draw in viewers).
In match action, Umaga squashed another, while Johnny Nitro+Shelton Benjamin beat Carlito in a handicap match. The main event saw Edge beat Ric Flair with help from Mick Foley.
Also on the show, several more Vengeance matches were announced: Umaga vs Eugene (I can bet a squash..), and Kane vs Kane.
Other things happened as well, but overall it wasn't a good show going into a PPV. I will have my Vengeance thoughts and picks in my next post probably.
In TNA news, Impact tapings for this week and next week took place tonight. I won't spoil it here. Just search for Impact spoilers and you will find them. Overall, the tapings looked to have more bad things than good things. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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memoryproblems Liberal Progressive

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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 8:55 am Post subject: |
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I hope this doesn't lead to a huge stable war, but it looks like it might.
TNA side: Jim Cornette, Sting, Christian Cage, etc
Anti-TNA side: Larry Zbyszko, Earl Hebner, Jeff Jarrett, Scott Steiner, etc
I would be fine with a short stable feud for a few months, but nothing longer than that. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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Rob1981 Lifeless Person
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: |
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The second ECW show, seemed just as bad as the first (and featured many of the same things):
-Kelly has stripped in both shows
-Sandman has beat a stupid gimmick in both shows
-Big Show as an unstoppable monster
-Useless matches
But anyway, here are the results for those that didn't see it:
1- Sabu beat Tony Mamaluke (basically a one sided match...)
2- Big Show+Tommy Dreamer went to no contest (Big Show just destroyed Dreamer, and then left with no pin)
3- Sandman beat Macho Libre (quick match)
4- Kurt Angle+Rob Van Dam beat Randy Orton+Edge
The main event was certainly better than last week's, but other than that, it was a bad show.
What exactly is the point of Sandman beating lame gimmicks? Last week it was a zombie, this week it was a combo of Macho Man and Nacho Libre.
I can tell it will get old quick.
Other things on the show: Gangrel was outside again, and Test looks to be debuting (WWE return) for the ECW brand soon. John Cena vs Sabu (Vengeance match) is now a lumberjack match that looks to be all ECW wrestlers as the lumberjacks.
So in summary... the writers have no clue what they are doing. Also, in case you didn't know, ECW wrestlers are now known as "rebels" according to the WWE/ECW sites. _________________ http://strategywiki.org/wiki/Main_Page
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