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Rob1981 · Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject:

In WWE news, the fake Kane is possibly going to Smackdown. He will obviously get a new gimmick, since the whole Kane vs Kane storyline seems to be done.

Just what Smackdown doesn't need: another big man.

The DX antics are getting very stale in my opinion. It's usually just pee jokes or fart jokes now. Once in a while is fine, but every week is just stupid. Hopefully the writers can think of some new stuff, or the reunited DX will die quick.
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Obecorp · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject:

From watching some of the ECW show last night on TV, I guess I was partally right about my premonitions that they are gonna start punishing RVD. In case y'all don't know, he lost the ECW belt to the Big Show yesterday, and was suspended for 30 days. The fans weren't too happy afterwards, and started throwing beer after the match. I am thinking that this probably was due to his incident with the law that took place over the weekend. As much as I have respect for RVD as a performer, the WWE did the right thing by suspending him, even though it kinda killed a lot of the things they had planned the next couple of weeks.

As far as the rest of the ECW show that I was able to see, it still wasn't spectacular, but at least there's a bit of diversity from the past couple of weeks. Test actually looked impressive in his debut. Kelly's Expose was still pretty much the same in a sense that she keeps using the same song, but she was actually closer to revealing (she was wearing body paint on her chest with some pasties). Also, it was learned that CM Punk will soon be debuting in ECW. I'm really looking forward to his debut.

Rob1981 · Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject:

More RVD and Sabu news (I don't think I've posted any of this yet):

Rob Van Dam is suspended for 30 days, while Sabu only got fined $1000. Their court date isn't set as of now.

What a pathetic joke. They should be in court, and punished for their crime(s). The horrible legal system strikes again.

In other WWE news, basically the whole lineup for Saturday Night's Main Event on July 15 has been announced:

*WWE champ Edge vs John Cena

*5-on-2 elimination match: Triple H+Shawn Michaels vs Spirit Squad

*Rey Mysterio, Batista+Bobby Lashley vs King Booker, Mark Henry+Finlay

*Divas match: "bikini bull riding contest" (Involves divas from all 3 brands)

So it's safe to say, this SNME doesn't look too great.
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Obecorp · Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 10:46 am Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 2:21 pm Post subject:

Apparently some ad for a Raw event in August, lists DX against Spirit Squad. So the feud isn't going to end anytime soon.

They better put the tag titles on some other team, instead of having SS losing them to DX.

As for RVD and Sabu, here is an article on it:

Obecorp · Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject:

I kinda like the idea of Booker T facing Rey Myseterio. I always thought that Booker T should be eventually creep back into the main event picture some how. Before the battle royal happened, I actually thought Finlay might've won, since he was winning a lot of his matches lately. But, I guess people wouldn't buy him in the main event. I somehow thought Mr. Kennedy might have had a slight chance winning that match too, since he has been really impressive since his return. But, I guess that might've been to quick of a push. The only thing that I don't agree with is that with his feud with Lashley, they've showed that Booker T wasn't able to beat the US champion, but now he has a program with the World Champion? I'm really thinking they should take that belt off of Rey really soon. No offense to Rey but the longer he holds that belt, the less valuable it's becoming. As of now, the US title seems to have more worth than the World Title.

Come to think, I'm not really sure it's a real possiblilty but if Booker T ends up winning the title in the Great American Bash, could there be a chance that we may see a start of a Booker T-Batista feud in Summerslam? If so, it would be somewhat ironic since a few months ago, they had a backstage fight filming the Summerslam commercial.

As far as the tag title picture in Raw goes, I do see a possiblity of DX probably winning the tag belts. I do agree that probably might not be something I wanna see either, since individually, Shawn Michaels and Triple H are bigger stars by themselves. So my guess is, if this happens, DX beats Spirit Squad for the tag team titles one day, they hold it for a few weeks, then probably lose it (by getting screwed out of it) to an upstart team. Probably a team like Cade and Murdoch, who looks like the WWE have been pushing pretty well over the last few weeks.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 12:20 pm Post subject:

Big Show vs Ric Flair is the main event for tonight's ECW.

Pretty dumb main event. Do the writers think Flair will bring in ratings? It's obvious Flair probably won't win it. ECW would do well, if they would stop making it look like Tuesday Night Raw. I understand about cross-brand angles, but this is just getting lame. No one really cares about a Big Show/Ric Flair match. Plus on the show Candice Michelle will be appearing, to dance with Kelly, yet more wasted time.

Basham Brothers have worked some ECW house shows lately, so it's safe to say they will probably return on the ECW show. I really don't think ECW should have tag teams though. They only have FBI and Danny Doring+Roadkill as other teams. Hopefully Vince doesn't have ECW tag titles created, for yet another poor tag division. Well, I wouldn't be surprised if an ECW tag team shows up on Raw or Smackdown sometime and wins the titles, then brings them over to ECW.
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Obecorp · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:02 am Post subject:

I watched the ECW show last night, and to be honest, they actually surpassed my expectations (which honestly wasn't that much considering their first few airings). They kinda changed up Kelly's expose a little bit by having Candice Michelle over there for that episode and briefly having Sandman get involved with Mike Knox's interference. I didn't expect much from the main event, but they've actually delivered more than I expected. It still really amazes me to see some of the bumps that Ric Flair still takes considering his age. I don't really agree with putting a big name ECW guy like Tommy Dreamer in front of a (somewhat) newcomer like Test though. We'll see where that goes.

Slowly but surely, ECW will probably get out of being "Tuesday Night Raw". Right now, they just need to do a lot of cross-promoting with Raw early to get their name out. They are still in their transition phase, and still kind of building their roster. With more wrestlers like CM Punk and Shannon Moore soon to be making their debut, ECW should improve a little bit. In the long run, if ECW does alright, I eventually see them breaking off being taped after the Smackdown tapings, and having their own 2 hour show. It probably won't happen for another couple of years though.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 12:47 am Post subject:

They aired the Rhino segment on Impact tonight. What a joke that was. He just bashed WWE and burned a bag that apparently held the old ECW title in it (which I doubt it did...).

TNA should worry about having decent matches, not doing this crap. WWE could care less. TNA won't really get more fans by doing things like that, so it's a complete waste.

Victory Road is this Sunday, I will post a preview and my thoughts on it later today.

Smackdown is tonight, it's the last stop before Saturday Night's Main Event, so the show will probably be hyping that up alot.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:59 pm Post subject:

Full TNA Victory Road card, with my picks in bold, followed by thoughts:

*Main Event: (Winner gets a NWA world title shot at Hard Justice in August)
Sting vs Christian Cage vs Scott Steiner vs Samoa Joe

-I'm picking Sting, because he is getting up there in age. I'm sure the people in TNA want Sting to have at least 1 world title reign before retiring (which is hopefully sooner than later..)

The match could be okay, but would be better if Steiner wasn't in it.

*Tag champs AJ Styles+Christopher Daniels+Sirelda vs America's Most Wanted+Gail Kim

-I'm assuming this is a 6-person tag, but not entirely sure. I don't think AMW will be the ones to get the titles from them. Should be a decent match.

*X champ Senshi vs (Mystery Opponent)

-I doubt Senshi will lose to someone they haven't named. My guess it will be either the returning Austin Aries (new name will be Austin Starr) or Petey Williams.

*Hair vs Hair: Raven vs Larry Zbyszko

-I doubt Larry will win this, unless someone helps him. I hope not, just end the stupid feud already! Use airtime for younger talent, not someone like Larry that is better as a voice piece, not a wrestler.

*Monty Brown vs Rhino

-Rhino has little to no chance to be the one to stop Brown's streak. I certainly hope the Rhino bashing WWE incident on Impact, wasn't a start of a new push for him...

*Team 3-D vs James Gang+Abyss

-Hard to call, but I know this will be crap. 5 of the 6 are washed up stale gimmicks that TNA should've fired a while ago. Abyss is just thrown in as filler, I somehow bet Abyss will turn on James Gang sometime.

*Kevin Nash+Alex Shelley vs Chris Sabin+Jay Lethal

-Sabin+Lethal winning is the best and obvious choice. Nash vs X division needs to end, it seems to be doing nothing.

*Ron Killings+Sonjay Dutt vs Latin American Exchange

-Could be decent, but I'm not expecting much.

*Naturals vs Diamonds in the Rough

-Last minute match, could be okay.

So overall, Victory Road is 9 matches, with 5 of them being tag matches. As much as a tag fan as I am, I think 5 tag is way too much. The card looks average, with only a few decent things in there.

Match of the night: Senshi vs mystery opponent or the 6-person inter-gender match.

Worst match of the night: Raven vs Larry, hands down this can't be good at all.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject:

Saturday Night's Main Event was on NBC last night, and wasn't that great. The ratings so far for it, show that it basically bombed. It has been said, this would probably be WWE's last chance at specials on the network if it did badly.

In my opinion, the show looked like a version of Raw with Smackdown and ECW thrown in. They showcased ECW badly, Sabu beat Stevie Richards in a quick match (that was almost one sided, Richards got in very little offense). Raw had 3 matches total, Smackdown had 1, ECW had 1, and there was one inter-brand match involving divas.

TNA Victory Road is going on right now, full results will be posted later.
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Obecorp · Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 9:14 pm Post subject:

As much as I disagree with a lot of the decisions that WWE has done with ECW, I don't think it's gonna be gone for a while. It will last for more than a year, IMO. As of now, many people are still buying ECW by watching the TV program and buying the merchandise. As long as there's a demand for business, a business will always stay open.

True, CM Punk and Moore would probably never main event in ECW, but they will surely improve the product. They probably don't have the stereotypical "look" of a main-eventer, but they may showcase some interesting styles that will help put butts in the seats. ECW has been doing a lot of cross-promoting with Raw and Smackdown, but if you ever worked in any promotions business, it's normal to initially piggy-back off a bigger brand name to get another one off the ground. It will take some time to ECW to get better. I still do believe that ECW may eventually get its own TV tapings. If people continue to go to the ECW house shows (which I heard many are), then Vince may think having them break off the Smackdown TV tapings and get their own show. They pretty much already have a different house show touring schedule.

As far as SNME goes, I was pretty disappointed in it. The DX match was a bit entertaining, but it was still a squash. And the main event fell way short from expectations. IMO, the mix tag match was one of the best matches they had in the card. Since that was the case, that really says much about how disappointing the show was. I guess the problem was that there really wasn't nearly as much hype with this show as there was with the previous show. Even then, they probably could've still done a little better. Also, another big problem was, IMO, was that SNME wasn't evenly represented. The show was being mostly dominated by the RAW brand. They had 2 Smackdown segments, and 1 ECW segment. The whole show was dominated with JR and the King calling pretty much all of the action.

Regarding the TNA PPV, I think Sting will have to win. It'll probably be his turn to contend for the title. I do hope also, that Monty Brown continues to win. He really is one of the more deserving performers they have in TNA. Not to mention, I wasn't too high on Rhino's past few promos against WWE/ECW.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject:

Well I was right on 6 of 8 predictions (since I didnt predict a winner of Abyss+James Gang/Team 3-D).

Quick results for the PPV: Naturals beat Diamonds in the Rough, Rhino+Monty Brown went to a no contest/double DQ, LAX beat Ron Killings+Sonjay Dutt, X champ Senshi beat Frankie Kazarian, Chris Sabin+Jay Lethal beat Kevin Nash+Alex Shelley, James Gang+Abyss beat Team 3-D, AJ Styles+Christopher Daniels+Sirelda beat AMW+Gail Kim, Sting won the 4-way over Christian Cage+Scott Steiner+Samoa Joe (Sting will now face Jarrett for the title at Hard Justice).

From the looks of it (since I didn't see it), it didn't seem like a very exciting PPV. Rhino+Monty Brown's finish was stupid, I don't see why Brown couldn't have won it...and continue his streak. They should find someone better for him to feud with, instead of Rhino.

The only notes to mention from it are:

-Jerry Lynn helped Sabin+Lethal from Nash+friends attack after the tag match, so it looks like a 6-man tag will be at the next PPV: Hard Justice.

-Problems were taking place between the AMW members. I guess TNA is finally going to break them up.

-Frankie Kazarian returned, and hopefully it's not a one time deal. He is a great talent, and I'm still surprised WWE let him go a bit ago.

-It was announced, a PPV will finally be somewhere else (besides Orlando). On October 22, Bound for Glory will be in Detroit.

Raw is tonight, a diva search finalist will get eliminated and John Cena faces Umaga.
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