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PostPosted: Mon Aug 28, 2006 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Jeff Hardy faces Randy Orton in a match to determine a #1 contender to the I.C title.

Hardy hasn't been back long, and is already getting chances for titles? I think that's stupid. WWE should wait and see if he actually lasts, before putting him in contenders matches and/or title matches.


Jimmy Yang's new gimmick for Smackdown could actually work and be funny, if done well.

I also agree. It probably is a little premature for Hardy to get chances for titles. I would've gave it at least a couple more weeks before Hardy gets a chance. It is obvious that Hardy will probably win this match for Orton looks like he will feud with Carlito rather than go for the IC belt.

I am not so sure about Jimmy (Akio) Yang's new gimmick though. I actually saw it firsthand during his dark match with Gregory Helms in the WWE Smackdown/ECW tapings in Aug 15. His cowboy gig didn't work for me. An asian guy wearing a confederate flag, I thought was extremely dumb, and looks like the WWE creative team isn't trying that hard.
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Useless McMahons/DX match #1000000 is taking place at Unforgiven:


-DX vs McMahons+Big Show in a handicap hell in a cell match.


I can bet DX will win, like always. I can imagine DX getting beat up on Raw each week, but when Unforgiven comes along... they win. Hopefully this feud ends soon, it's so dull and predictable.

Other likely Unforgiven matches: Johnny Nitro vs Jeff Hardy, Randy Orton vs Carlito, and Kane vs Umaga.


ECW is tonight, and the main event is just pathetic: Sabu vs Paul Heyman in a hardcore match.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ECW is tonight, and the main event is just pathetic: Sabu vs Paul Heyman in a hardcore match.


Yeah but ECW is a whole lot better like come on you can't be hardcore matches its just a go nuts show do what ever you want. Unlike wwe where their are limits which have been set in place so the superstars don't break a nail.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yeah but ECW is a whole lot better like come on you can't be hardcore matches its just a go nuts show do what ever you want. Unlike wwe where their are limits which have been set in place so the superstars don't break a nail.


ECW is WWE, don't act like it's another promotion. It's the 3rd brand of WWE, period. But anyway, there needs to be limits because if hardcore was the whole show, people would be hurt and that's not good either. ECW isn't better at all. It's just looks like thrown together at the last minute garbage. They need Raw and/or Smackdown stars almost each week, just to bring in more viewers.

ECW from this week got a 1.9 rating: which is the lowest rating since the July 4 show. No surprise there, people simply don't want to watch Heyman/Sabu for a main event. Next week on ECW: DX vs Big Show I bet. People love DX, so the rating will go up obviously.

I really hope ECW dies before Wrestlemania, I certainly don't want ECW matches stinking up the event at all.

In a small ECW note: a replay of ECW has been approved, and will air later in the week on Sci Fi. Sci Fi is that desperate for programs, that they have to re-run a bad wrestling show?


Smackdown is tomorrow, and since I will be busy I read the spoilers (which I usually don't do often). Seems like an okay show, and certainly better than ECW that's for sure.

Smackdown vs Raw 2007 (video game) is only a few months away (coming in November), and it's shaping up pretty good. No new match types: I'm glad about this, since they always seem to jam the game full of match types and many of the matches have things wrong with them. Instead the previous matches will be improved: ladder match will have Money in the Bank variant, improved hell in a cell, and tables will be improved as well. Plus GM mode will be improved as well.

Confirmed roster is small though. Here is who is confirmed so far:

Batista, King Booker, Chris Benoit, John Cena, Kurt Angle, Triple H, Undertaker, Rey Mysterio, Johnny Nitro, Shelton Benjamin, Randy Orton and Torrie Wilson. 11 total people so far.


Benoit is still technically with WWE (on a break), but Angle isn't. So it's not a big deal either of those are in, but hopefully the rest of the roster is alot of the current WWE. Outdated rosters is what Yukes and THQ are usually known for, when it comes to wrestling games.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 31, 2006 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, it's confirmed that ECW has signed a new deal with Sci-Fi, and the contract runs until the end of 2007. So, it looks like ECW will probably be around for a while. It seems like people will continue to watch it too, because the ratings in the network are consistently strong. I still think there are still a hell of a lot of things that can improve ECW. But, even then, as long as the "faithful" ECW fans keep on tuning in and going to the shows, despite the fact that some don't agree with a few aspect of it, ECW would continue to be around.

I know it's been rumored for months, but the WWE has finally confirmed Trish Stratus leaving the WWE, for now. Even though I don't particularly care too much of women's wrestling, Trish really was the "total package" (someone with looks and wrestling ability, not to mention she also managed a team once). IMO, she still had a lot of good years in front of her, and if she stayed a bit longer, she would have been one of the best women wrestlers ever in the industry.

It does suck to see DX vs McMahons again. Honestly, I think Triple H needs to eventually get back in the main event singles spotlight. But, I think this is primarily happening to promote Vince's new DVD. As much as I don't like him hogging the spotlight, this can probably be an interesting watch.

I certainly hope that Cena doesn't win the TLC match at Unforgiven, but they may be setting him up to do so, even though it's in Edge's hometown, and in his kind of match. I think they may be doing this in a further attempt of the WWE to get him over with the fans that hate him. If Cena actually performs in this match, and actually carries his end and really puts his body on the line (instead of doing the same predictable movesets he normally does), I could see some fans buttering up. The way I see it, he has to win some of his "haters" over considering his movie is coming out next month.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RAW was last night, and looks like Unforgiven is actually taking shape, because several matches have been announced yesterday, such as:

Highlanders vs Spirit Squad
Carlito vs Randy Orton
Kane vs Umaga
Trish vs Lita (for the Women's belt)
Johnny Nitro vs Jeff Hardy (for the IC belt)

The IC title match could be a good match, since it was a pretty decent match when they had it yesterday on RAW. It's pretty predictable though that Trish is probably gonna win the Women's belt from Lita, and she will retire on top. I'm guessing a tournament will probably be held for this belt, which may include some of the Smackdown ladies, hopefully. As far as the other new matches go, it can probably go either way, depending on how the story turns out after the episode of RAW next week.

In other news, I've heard that Kurt Angle's relationship with the WWE has soured even more since his release, and there may be a possibility for him to jump to TNA after his no-compete clause ends. Personally, I think it would be good for the industry if he comes back, but not necessarily good for him, since he may be too messed up, and he may not be ready to come back yet.

I've also heard somewhere that Monty Brown and Ron Killings may head to the WWE after their contracts and no-compete clauses in TNA are done. If it's true, I hope Monty Brown gets a fair shot in the WWE. If he does go in the WWE, I think he is one of the few performers who is actually worthy of winning the IC/US title in his first match (unlike a few other predecessors).
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unforgiven doesn't look too good. I'm against Hardy vs Nitro, since Hardy seems to be botching up moves alot lately. Raw last night is a good example of Hardy's poor matches. The only good Unforgiven match for me will be Carlito/Randy Orton.

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It's pretty predictable though that Trish is probably gonna win the Women's belt from Lita, and she will retire on top. I'm guessing a tournament will probably be held for this belt, which may include some of the Smackdown ladies, hopefully. As far as the other new matches go, it can probably go either way, depending on how the story turns out after the episode of RAW next week.



Trish might go out on top, but not necessarily. A women's title tournament would be pretty boring, if you ask me. They should just do one 4-way match or something like that.

ECW tonight is Raw part 2 once again: Big Show vs DX is the main event.

Most of the roster is finally confirmed for the Smackdown vs Raw 2007 video game. From the looks of it, it's pretty good. Out of the confirmed people, only Kurt Angle is no longer with WWE. When the game comes out, Trish won't be with WWE anymore. Only 2 people overall (when the game comes out) is the best the roster has ever been when it comes to being up to date or not.

Some of the new wrestlers for this game (that haven't been in other wrestling games yet, I don't think): Great Khali, Ken Kennedy, Paul Burchill, Super Crazy, Finlay, Bobby Lashley, Johnny Nitro and Joey Mercury. I'm a little disappointed Spirit Squad aren't in the game. Since rumors have been going around about an upcoming breakup, I'm thinking Spirit Squad won't appear as a group in a wrestling game ever. Maybe as singles sometimes, but nothing else.

No legends are confirmed for the game yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ECW on Tuesday was not very good, like usual.


Matt Striker's segment was just wrong. Taking a shot at the late Steve Irwin is simply not needed at all. Sandman at the end writing "sux" below Striker's name on the blackboard was just stupid. Is WWE trying to get the little kid audience now or what?

Holly on ECW is pretty dumb as well. The guy is way beyond his prime, and should just be a manager, trainer or agent for WWE, not a wrestler.


The rating for the show was up from last week: 1.9 last week and 2.1 this week. I think it's safe to say, people will tune in alot more when it's announced big names like Shawn and Triple H will be appearing. This is a crutch that WWE needs to let go of. ECW is signed until the end of next year: and I bet it if the ratings do badly... Raw and Smackdown stars will be featured even more on it.

In some TNA news, there is talks of putting Gail Kim in the X division. I hope this doesn't happen. Gail is talented, but certainly doesn't belong in that division.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Trish might go out on top, but not necessarily. A women's title tournament would be pretty boring, if you ask me. They should just do one 4-way match or something like that.

Yeah, this probably is more likely. But, I just don't agree with a title match with limited buildup. But, believe it or not, if the women can actually wrestle and they're pretty, they're matches can be alright. If this happens, the likely competitors will be Lita, Mickie James, Melina, and/or somebody else. However, I just can't see Trish losing in Unforgiven.

I didn't see Jeff Hardy botch his moves on Monday. I actually thought the match was pretty entertaining to watch. Nitro has come along a singles competitor after coming to Raw. I see him possibly being in the main event spotlight in the next couple of years, as long as he gets some more mic skills and Melina is still his manager.

As far as ECW, I didn't watch it since I had plans on Tuesday night, so I can't really comment on it. I did see some of the videos on WWE.com, and it looks like CM Punk might feud with Shannon Moore in the future, but probably not immediately in his debut. Moore has gotten better since he was last in the WWE, but he's no CM Punk. I also saw the Stryker/Sandman segment, and I think this could be a really entertaining feud, since the two characters are complete opposites. I still don't agree with the fact that a lot of the ECW originals are getting bottom billing though. But they're just doing the DX angle probably moreso to help promote and build up Unforgiven, rather than the ratings being lower the previous week. One of their highest rated shows was when they did an all ECW main event, with the ladder match between RVD and Sabu.

For 2 more of my cents, it's about time they are finally holding Chris Masters down due to his lack of talent. It was actually really nice to see him lose to Super Crazy. Guess you can't be as good if you look half your size from before, because you got off of steroids.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only one week away, and the Unforgiven card seems to be final. So here is my picks (in bold) and thoughts.


*WWE champ Edge vs John Cena in a "TLC match"

-I simply don't think Cena will win this. I hate to see Cena be on Smackdown again, but it's likely to happen. The match itself should be good, but certainly not the best TLC ever.

*DX vs McMahons+Big Show in "hell in a cell"

-I can bet DX will win again. I'm hoping this feud ends at the event: but I somehow doubt it. Below average match.

*Randy Orton vs Carlito

-One of the better matches of the night, in my opinion.

*I.C champ Johnny Nitro vs Jeff Hardy

-Nitro should retain, Hardy doesn't need a title this soon.

*Kane vs Umaga

-Kane should do the job to Umaga, but I don't see it happening just yet.

*Tag champs Spirit Squad vs Highlanders

-SS should retain, Highlanders are a joke and don't deserve the belts. But it's not like the other teams on Raw should have the belts either. I expect a somewhat decent match, but nothing too special.

*Women's champ Lita vs Trish Stratus

-Hard to call, but I think Lita will retain since Trish is leaving.


Overall, a very bland Raw PPV: HIAC would be better if it wasn't DX/McMahons match #100000, TLC could be good, but wont come close to past TLC matches.

Raw is tomorrow night in Madison Square Garden, and the best they can come up with is: Triple H vs Vince McMahon, Edge+Randy Orton+Johnny Nitro vs John Cena+Carlito+Jeff Hardy. The 6-man is fine, but Triple H/Vince is a joke. WWE needs to start preparing other people for the main event, so the McMahons can stop wrestling.
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I agree with pretty most of your picks. But, I don't think Cena will lose though. As much as I don't like him, he's too big of a name to be moved off the "flagship" show. I also wouldn't agree with the thought of him beating Edge in his hometown, in his kind of match. But, I think this is how it's gonna turn out. If he actually takes some really good bumps, instead of having Edge carry the match, take all the bumps, and job to him with his limited moveset, then he'd be a more deserving champ than he was before. I also don't think Trish will lose. I do think she will retire on top, and there will be some kind of tournament/match held for the vacant title, with possibly Mickie James ending up with the title in the end. Even though Lita is one of the more talented women wrestlers, she is better used in Edge's corner as his manager rather than competing in the women's division. And I also think Kane would lose to Umaga. The feud will continue though, and he will probably be the one to end his winning streak.

I think Unforgiven could be a decent PPV. IMO, they actually did a decent job of buildup with most of the matches with the limited time that they had. The TLC match could be the match of the night if John Cena actually carries his end of the match and takes some really huge bumps. A lot of fans would probably cheer him getting hurt anyway.

I didn't watch most of RAW yesterday because of Monday Night Football, but the main event was some crap. I really do hope that this DX-McMahon feud ends soon, and HHH gets back in the singles main event and possibly feud with Edge.
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It ticked me off last week that Smackdown aired late, due to the CW not being around yet. The "my network TV" garbage aired in it's spot, Smackdown aired at 12:30.

The same thing will happen this week, since CW starts next week.


In another mistake by WWE, John Cena has been listed as part of Raw shows until November. So this basically proves Cena is staying on Raw.
Hopefully Cena's next reign isn't long.

Randy Orton is suspended again, but will still work the PPV (and other events as well, possibly). He is working without pay. I couldn't find a reason for the suspension though.

Also suspended without pay: Balls Mahoney and Ryan O'Reilly (OVW wrestler that works on ECW house shows). Both of them failed a drug test.

Brad Armstrong has been signed by WWE to likely work for the ECW brand.
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In another mistake by WWE, John Cena has been listed as part of Raw shows until November. So this basically proves Cena is staying on Raw.
Hopefully Cena's next reign isn't long.

I kinda had a feeling that Cena is gonna stay at Raw. But even though that is probably how is gonna turn out to be, the fact that Cena is scheduled for Raw events doesn't necessarily make it official. If I remember correctly, many people were picking John Cena to retain against RVD in ECW's One Night Stand because the Vengeance poster had John Cena (with the belt) and Edge on it. That necessarily didn't happen. I'm willing to guess that if he loses, he's gonna go to Smackdown for a couple of weeks (to help the transition to the CW network), and somehow end back up in Raw due to some techincality or weird stipulation.

Because of Washington Nationals games, Smackdown has actually been pre-empted here in my area during the past two months. They are actually starting to show Smackdown in the network that will become the CW network, but in a pre-empted timeslot rather than the expected Friday night 8 PM ET timeslot. They will once again go back to the regular schedule on the 22nd, during the week the CW network actually launches.
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Several former WWE wrestlers have been hired again: Rodney Mack, Henry Godwinn and Marty Jannetty.

Rodney, Marty and the recently signed Brad Armstrong are set to work with young talent. I hope Brad and Henry don't appear on TV alot, they aren't very entertaining wrestlers in my opinion.

This should be good for the young talent, but hopefully there is no repeating of what Animal did. Animal was fired due to anger issues, because of his ideas being turned down.

Hopefully it's just part time action for them. I don't want it to end up like Duggan, who appears on Raw+Heat too much.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rob1981 wrote:
Several former WWE wrestlers have been hired again: Rodney Mack, Henry Godwinn and Marty Jannetty.

Rodney, Marty and the recently signed Brad Armstrong are set to work with young talent. I hope Brad and Henry don't appear on TV alot, they aren't very entertaining wrestlers in my opinion.

This should be good for the young talent, but hopefully there is no repeating of what Animal did. Animal was fired due to anger issues, because of his ideas being turned down.

Hopefully it's just part time action for them. I don't want it to end up like Duggan, who appears on Raw+Heat too much.


I'm not sure how much Rodney Mack can actually help. He totally sucked during his time in the WWE. Teddy Long was the one who carried him back when he was a manager.

I do agree though, these new hires should just be used to help the younger talent, hopefully not in a wrestling capacity. From what I understand, I'm guessing they'll probably help like road agents do somewhat, but with different duties. But from what happened with Road Warrior Animal, if you put older wrestlers in the ring to try to mesh with younger talent, it wouldn't work well. Probably, the only exception to the rule is Ric Flair, who can still work matches that all fans love to see.

Unforgiven is tommorrow. It could be a decent PPV, but I'm not gonna buy it. The TLC match though will either make or break the PPV. I still don't have much confidence in Cena in terms of ability, so to me, this PPV is leaning more towards the negative side. The Hell in a Cell match is gonna have bust written all-over it. But the midcard matches that they have seem pretty decent as well, but it will obviously be overshadowed by the hype of the TLC match.
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