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Obecorp · Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:00 pm Post subject:

(Cyber Sunday Picks cont'd)

Jeff Hardy vs Carlito
Personally, I think Shelton Benjamin should be voted in, but I think Carlito will be chosen since he's the only babyface available to be picked. Carlito will probably win because of "inpreparedness" in Hardy's part.

DX vs Edge and Orton w/ special referee Eric Bischoff
Hopefully this little angle will eventually lead to the end of the DX storyline. Bischoff should be voted in since I'm guessing many people are tired of McMahon/Coachman vs DX.

John Cena vs King Booker vs Big Show for the WWE championship (win by DQ so title won't change hands)
I think Big Show will win, but probably won't win the title. I think the bookers will try to give ECW the most momentum heading into Survivor Series, which is the reason why Big Show will "win" this match (as much as I don't like saying it). Personally, I want King Booker to win, but we all know that he won't.

I'll probably just read what happened in Cyber Sunday through the Internet on Monday morning. I'm gonna spend most of my day watchin football.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject:

My picks are as follows:

Umaga over Chris Benoit: Chavo interferes, leading to Chavo vs Benoit at either Survivor Series or Armageddon.

Mickie James over Lita: probably lumberjack, seeing how the other choices are just stupid for a Women's title match. James will win, since it's been said Lita will be leaving.

Cryme Tyme winning the 4-team match: the choices are poor for this one as well. I'm guessing fatal 4-way.

Ric Flair and Dusty Rhodes over Spirit Squad: Short title reign for the two, then a feud I can bet.

Jeff Hardy over Carlito: I doubt Hardy will lose the title so soon, even though he should.

DX over Edge+Randy Orton: Bischoff will be the referee.

Cena over Big Show+King Booker: Probably World or WWE title on the line, but the winner will be by DQ probably.

Overall, a pretty bland Raw only PPV.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 1:25 am Post subject:

Full Cyber Sunday results:

Umaga beat Kane, Cryme Tyme won Texas Tornado 4-team match, I.C champ Jeff Hardy beat Carlito, Edge+Randy Orton beat DX (Bischoff was the referee), Lita beat Mickie James to win Women's title (Lumberjill match), Ric Flair+Rowdy Piper beat Tag champs Spirit Squad to win titles, World champ King Booker beat John Cena+Big Show (World title was on the line, Kevin Federline hit Cena with the world title and then Booker used the title on Cena as well, then pinned him).

From the sounds of it, the PPV wasn't that exciting. Kevin Federline really needs to go. If WWE wastes time with a Federline/Cena match sometime, that would be even worse.

I'm a bit surprised Umaga beat Kane clean (and that Kane got voted in). I guess fans weren't sick of the Umaga/Kane boring matches, like I was.

At least Survivor Series will be much better, WWE usually does the big PPV's right. As long as Survivor Series isn't just a bunch of inter-brand matches, it should be decent.
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Obecorp · Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 12:25 am Post subject:

Well it's just gotten worse: Federline will indeed face John Cena in a match in the future. It was announced on Raw.

In other WWE news, Bobby Lashley wants to transfer to ECW. He wants to transfer, because he gets along with Paul Heyman better than Michael Hayes (head writer of Smackdown). In my opinion, he should remain on Smackdown.

In TNA news, the next few weeks of Impact should be good. With the exception of the garbage new gimmick for James Gang, the shows look pretty decent.
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coralvalley · Lifeless Person Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 918

I heard the interview Bobby Lashley did and it almost sounds like his ego is a little swelled there. Don't get me wrong I really like the guy, but I think that he is overestimating how great he is. I think he has a lot to learn still and while he might enjoy working with Paul Heyman I am not so sure he is ECW material just yet. I suppose time will tell.

With TNA I am really, really excited about the prime time debut and to see Kurt Angle in the ring again. I was there at Bound for Glory and I met everyone that weekend at their Fan Festival. They were all really, really nice people and what surprised me is how down to earth they all really are. I expected them to have the egos like I had experienced in meeting the guys in the WWE, but they were not at all that way. They were actually really great, so for me it was a very positive experience. I only recently started watching TNA when Kurt Angle moved to the show since he is my favorite, but I found in meeting all of the guys in real life that it made me appreciate Bound for Glory all the more. I think that there are a lot of good things ahead for TNA with the move to prime time. Even the president of TNA seems really cool and she seemed like she is really in touch with the fans and what they want.

With Cyber Sunday I have to admit I was a bit disappointed with the whole show. I know I am in a minority, but I really, really am starting to get terribly bored with DX. What amazes me is that Triple H has been a favorite of mine for so very long that I was psyched when DX came together again. He and Shawn have always been top notch performers and while they still are, their gimmick is starting to get old with me. I mean how many jokes can we see from them that are the same recycled jokes? Though I was excited to see them finally let go of the DX vs the McMahons plot and move them on to Edge and Randy Orton although I am still not sure about that one as well.

Admittedly in John Cena's match last night I did not want him to win and become the undisputed champion. While I am not exactly thrilled about the whole idea of him and Kevin Federline going up against one another, it was nice when Kevin Federline jumped in and kept John Cena from becoming the next undisputed champion. I mean sure I get that he is a fan favorite in some places and that he makes a lot of money for the WWE but in one way I feel like less would be so much more with Cena. I respect that the guy goes out there and works his hardest doing all that he can by pouring himself completely into the show, but at the same time I think the whole making him out to be Superman is just a bit much. I don't really mind him as champ for now I guess, but I didn't want to see him on both shows as champ.

On another note, did anyone catch Umaga and Maria tonight? I honestly thought Cena would come out before Umaga did anything to her. Boy was I wrong. He really laid her flat out there. I never saw that coming.

Also again I'm in the minority, but I kind of like the return of Eric Bischoff. It gives people someone to hate so to speak. Any other thoughts on Raw tonight?

Rob1981 · Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject:

I think Raw is just getting bad. The women's division is stale, as is the tag division. DX has been boring for quite a while, and it seems to never end. Constant toilet humor by DX is repetitive and just lame.

The first Survivor Series match was just announced today on WWE.com:

Team DX: Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Jeff Hardy, Matt Hardy+CM Punk against Team Edge+Orton: Edge, Randy Orton, Johnny Nitro, Gregory Helms+Mike Knox in a traditional Survivor Series match (elimination style)

Not too exciting in my opinion. Hopefully the other SS matches will be decent. Ken Kennedy vs Undertaker is likely to be a match, as is Chris Benoit vs Chavo Guerrero. I would imagine the main event would be Team Raw vs Team Smackdown vs Team ECW, featuring the 3 champs as captains... seeing as the poster shows all three men next to each other.

In something new, a new match will be posted on WWE.com until the full PPV card is listed. 6 more matches are to be added: so from tomorrow until next Monday there will be one new match a day.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject:

The second Survivor Series match was announced today:

Team Cena (John Cena, Kane, Sabu, Rob Van Dam+Bobby Lashley) vs Team Big Show (Big Show, Umaga, Test, MVP+Finlay)

I'm thinking Batista will face King Booker in a match. Unless it's Batista, Benoit and partners against King Booker, Chavo and partners. In my opinion, a title match would be better for Survivor Series in this case.

In ECW news, the last man to be in the Extreme Elimination Chamber will be announced next week. According to Paul Heyman's announcement: it's an open contract to any star from Raw, Smackdown or ECW. That kind of defeats the purpose of qualifying matches, since the last entrant just instantly gets put in. I'm betting it's probably Lashley, unless WWE does bait and switch... and goes with a current ECW wrestler.
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Obecorp · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 2:57 pm Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 5:00 pm Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Sun Nov 12, 2006 5:38 pm Post subject:

Unless things change (which is possible), all but one Survivor Series match isn't announced yet. The newest matches are 3 Smackdown singles matches: U.S champ Chris Benoit vs Chavo Guerrero, Undertaker vs Ken Kennedy, World champ King Booker vs Batista.

Batista needs to win now, this feud shouldn't continue until WM with the predictable Batista title win there. I really think Kennedy should win the match with Undertaker, but I doubt he will.

Survivor Series looks decent... with the exception of the Legends vs Spirit Squad match. Why in the hell is Cryme Tyme even around? They win non-title matches against SS, but get no actual title shots...and apparently no PPV match either. It goes to show you, the tag titles might as well be gone for Raw... their value is dropping each week in my opinion.

I'm thinking the last Survivor Series match will either be a women's Survivor Series match or a Women's title elimination match.
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Obecorp · Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:53 am Post subject:

Rob1981 · Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 3:08 pm Post subject:

Women's champ Lita against Mickie James was announced today for Survivor Series. Also: the Undertaker/Ken Kennedy match is now a first blood match.

Typical WWE: no tag titles on the line at a big PPV event. While this isn't always the case, it just seems like it happens alot.

In TNA news, a house show was cancelled over the weekend in Connecticut, leading to many people thinking WWE got the show cancelled. An official from TNA responded, and said it's not because of WWE at all. But of course it doesn't end there... the James Gang taped a segment at WWE headquarters that will probably air on TNA's site and a future episode of Impact.

I think this is just a lame attempt at TNA trying to war with WWE, and get some attention from WWE fans and draw them in. I don't think the idea will work too good, especially when TNA clearly stated it wasn't WWE's fault in the first place.
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Skittles · Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:52 pm Post subject:

For the most part RAW was pretty boring. The best match in my opinion was Jeff Hardy vs. Johnny Nitro. Lita getting mustard squirted in her face then getting hit with that meat was beautiful, and Shawn Michaels talking ghetto with Cryme Tyme was funny. Other than that it wasn't anything special to me.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 9:03 pm Post subject:

The big Impact is tomorrow, which includes Kurt Angle's 1st TNA match: he will be facing Abyss. Also on the show, Christian Cage faces Rhino in a barbed wire cage match, and X champ AJ Styles defends against Chris Sabin+Christopher Daniels in a triple threat. Plus footage from James Gang in front of WWE headquarters will apparently air. I believe it's just them blaming WWE for a TNA house show being cancelled. It's been confirmed WWE had nothing to do with it, and it was completely TNA's fault. An official statement was released about the matter as well.

I guess TNA is trying to make James Gang seem like "rebels" that want to take out WWE. If things were different, Kip and BG would be back in WWE with Triple H+Shawn. But since bad comments were said by BG and/or Kip (I can't remember who said them, a bit ago), they aren't coming back to WWE. So they are basically disgruntled and upset about that, and TNA is allowing them to do this garbage just to get fans to like their stale act.

In my opinion, James Gang and Team 3-D are the worst wrestlers on TNA's roster. They are stale and just need to go. Teams like Diamonds in the Rough, and Lance Hoyt+Ron Killings would shine if these two stale acts would just be fired already.

In WWE news, as I predicted it: Bobby Lashley is part of ECW now, and is the final entrant to the "Extreme Elimination Chamber" at the December to Dismember PPV. The December PPV is the true test for ECW, if it fails... WWE needs to pull the plug on the brand.

What can the ECW PPV put for decent matches?

The remaining regular ECW talent (not in the EEC main event) is Hardcore Holly, Sandman, Mike Knox, Tommy Dreamer, Daivari, Great Khali, Sylvester Terkay, Kevin Thorn, Rene Dupree, Shannon Moore and a few others. Nothing too special (to me at least). If the ECW PPV has any inter-brand matches (against Raw or Smackdown), that would be making a big mistake.

Any other WWE news, Rowdy Piper's DVD finally comes out next week. I believe it's a 2 disc set at least. This is something any Piper fan should pick up.
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