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Obecorp · Posted: Wed Jun 06, 2007 6:50 am Post subject:

Nah, I don't think the Jackass people will be in the actual main event (if that is the rumor). If anything, they (or just Steve-O) will just be involved. It would be stupid to put them in the ring in the main event. They should be just managers of some sort. Bringing in celebs has usually worked out for the WWE, so in that case, this may not be stupid in their part.

Since Scott Steiner will probably be gone, LAX may replace them for a match with Team 3D. Although, this is probably a better match, less people would be interested in it, since people have seen it tons of times.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 11:33 pm Post subject:

Slammiversary seems fine, but certainly not something special (as how it should be, since it's the anniversary of when TNA started).

James Storm against an ex-football player? Give me a break. Using celebrities in matches is a cheap way to get media attention. TNA has done this enough with all the baseball angles with various players. I don't think it helped buyrates much.

Sting against Christopher Daniels should be decent, same goes for Chris Sabin/Jay Lethal. The King of the Mountain main event should be good. But other than that: the card just seems average to me.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Mon Jun 11, 2007 2:55 pm Post subject:

The draft is tonight on the 3 hour Raw. Special guests include Mick Foley, Bobby Heenan, Jimmy Snuka, Steve Austin and more. Apparently: lots of taped interviews will be shown, and many wont be there live. This will certainly determine how the brands will be in the coming months. Hopefully no major teams are broken up, and ECW is improved already. If they plan to have tag titles for the brand, they certainly need better wrestlers on the show. The cruiserweight division on Smackdown should get a boost in my opinion. Guerrero, Yang and a few others isn't much.

In TNA news, it looks like Rick Steiner will be teamed with someone else to face Team 3-D at Slammiversary. Hopefully they find someone decent.
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Obecorp · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 8:55 am Post subject:

I thought the 3 hour Raw last night was a really solid show. I enjoyed the draft. The actual concept of this year's draft kept the show going, and made it a really entertaining show to watch. And believe it or not, I didn't hate the McMahon segments, and were appropriate for the show. And about Vince "blowing up", I thought this was actually interesting. This means that we probably won't see the Mr. McMahon character on TV that much anymore or for a long time (if at all).

As far as the draft in general, a lot of the picks I agree with, a few, I didn't. Overall, Raw got the best deal out of it, picking up 3 solid main eventers in Booker, Lashley, and Kennedy. These 3 can make things interesting in the uppercard, with some new scenarios. I didn't see the point in placing Snitsky back in Raw though. Only with 2 picks, I think ECW really improved in the draft. Not because of Boogeyman, although, I do agree with putting him in ECW because his character fits in with the Sci Fi network. But, Chris Benoit going to ECW is HUGE. I agree with this, because I said before that the ECW show should be more focused as a wrestling brand directed to the more "smart mark" wrestling fan. Smackdown however, I believe was downgraded. I didn't see the point in putting Khali back to Smackdown, other than the fact that he's one of the worst workers and belongs on the "lesser" brand. Chris Masters is just another midcarder. I guess they just put him there so he can probably do more "Master Lock challenges" and possibly squash some cruserweights with them. Torrie, does belong in SD, since she shouldn't challenge for the women's title in Raw. However, I do agree with putting Flair in SD. Having him there could possibly lead to interesting storylines, and backstage, he can possibly mentor the younger talent (as long as they are willing).

The draft will supposedly continue on Wednesday. In my opinion, they should move Marcus Corvon to either of the other 2 shows, because it will give him a chance to showcase the character that everyone loved when he was in TNA. I think they should possibly move one other person to ECW. But the draft, brought about a few scenarios. The WWE championship open in Vengeance was booked, because of 2 of main eventers they picked up. It might be wishful thinking, but I hope Cena loses the belt (since he has had the belt since September, and pretty much the majority of the past 2 years). And, they have to crown a new ECW champion within the next few weeks. My smart guess would be Benoit, for he would be perfect, since he's stuck in that borderline in the uppermidcard between a World Championship and the 2nd-tier singles belt (which is exactly what the ECW championship is, imo).

I'll offer more thoughts about the WWE, TNA, and possibly ROH in a future post.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Tue Jun 12, 2007 10:53 am Post subject:

Smackdown certainly took a big hit by the draft. They lose great stars: Booker T, Mr. Kennedy+Chris Benoit...and gain crap: Wilson, Masters+Khali. Ric Flair is the only somewhat decent addition. This is even more proof, WWE could care less about Smackdown. They improve Raw by alot, and don't improve the other brands much.

Benoit going to ECW is alright, but I can somehow bet he will win the title right away. I suppose they need to improve ECW ratings somehow, and Benoit will be the one to possibly do it. As long as he is in decent feuds.

Lashley going to Raw makes perfect sense, as he had been wrestling on the show for quite a while. I don't see him winning the WWE title anytime soon though. I don't think Cena will lose the title at Vengeance. I think Summerslam will be the event he finally loses the title at.

The other draft picks were just mid card switches, that didn't mean much.

The draft continues tomorrow, but I don't expect anything major happening in it. Midcarders will be switched, and probably a team or two could be broken up is my guess.
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Obecorp · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:09 pm Post subject:

TNA Slammiversary is tonight. The card looks like it's pretty full. It looks okay, but it isn't as spectacular as it should be, considering that it's the 5th anniversary show. Here are my quick predictions, with maybe some short analysis on some...

James Storm & Ron Killings over Frank Wycheck & Jerry Lynn
The Bashams over VKM
Eric Young over Bobby Roode
Alex Shelley over Bob Backlund
LAX over Rhino and Chris Harris
Jay Lethal over Chris Sabin (c) - Since Jay Lethal is over with his gimmick, I think they'll give him
Team 3D (c) over The Steiners (or Rick Steiner and a mystery partner, I'm not sure how they'll book this)
Kurt Angle winning King of the Mountain - honestly, I think Joe deserves the belt more, but it kinda looks like they aren't gonna put Joe over Kurt Angle, as far as who the mystery person is gonna be, I'm thinking that they'll put Jeff Jarrett on there (although, that would be rather predictable). Abyss or Tomko could be other options, though I don't see the point since they lost their qualifiers. If it is either Abyss or Tomko, I see them wrestling a match in the PPV against each other, and the winner of that will be the 5th guy (I don't know how that will happen though, since they already have 8 matches, and 9 matches might be overbooking).

Even though the card isn't that spectacular, it should still be an interesting watch. I'm not gonna watch it though, since I have other plans.
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Obecorp · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject:

The supplemental draft continues today. As I'm typing this, 8 picks have been made. Here they are...

1) Raw - London & Kendrick
2) Smackdown - Kenny Dykstra
3) ECW - Viscera
4) Raw - Sandman
5) Smackdown - Hardcore Holly
6) ECW - The Miz
7) Raw - Daivari
8 ) Smackdown - The Major Brothers

London & Kendrick was another huge acquisition by Raw, and will help that tag-team division. But, I don't understand why they were both drafted with one pick. It goes to show that the WWE is really going all out to really strengthening the Raw brand. A feud I'm looking forward to will be them against the World's Greatest Tag Team (if they don't get separated). I agree putting with Kenny on Smackdown, because he will add to the midcard, and I think he'd fit in. Putting Vis in ECW, I don't get, because I don't think big men who can't move belong in ECW unless they can really contribute something. Sandman, imo, doesn't fit in on Raw, but I think they just put him there so they can release him in the near future. And, I think putting Holly in Smackdown is one of those "been there, done that" sort of deals, and he'd probably be better served in ECW. But, I'm thinking they put him there to add another "bruiser" type, and he can possibly help put over Matt Hardy before they he goes to the main event. I agree with putting the Miz in ECW, because I think he can be a decent addition to the New Breed stable. He had a decent match with Matt Hardy a few weeks ago (although, a lot of that was due to the fact the Hardy made him look good), and he can build from that. I don't see how they can use Daivari on Raw and he was better in Smackdown, considering there's a Cruserweight division there. If anything, they might just make him another jobber there. Lastly, I agree putting the Major Brothers in Smackdown. IMO, behind Ric Flair, this has probably been the best pickup that Smackdown has made, considering this is a team with a lot of potential, and they actually have a tag-team division in Smackdown, and could also potentially have a good program with Duece & Domino. Plus, this would somewhat cancel out the fact that Raw picked up a tag-team with one pick.

I'll offer more thoughts on the draft later on. It's supposed to go until 4, so I heard. If that's the case, then a lot of people are gonna be moved today. Like I said before, I'm hoping they'll move the Alpha Male to one of the other shows. Hopefully, they will also put a decent guy from Raw on Smackdown.

I may offer more thoughts on the draft in a future post, maybe later today or some time this week.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 2:39 pm Post subject:

TNA needs to have Rick Steiner team with someone, as it being a handicap match would be pretty stupid for a big PPV like this one. The PPV looks alright, but nothing too special.

Here is the draft results from today:

Obecorp · Posted: Sun Jun 17, 2007 10:01 pm Post subject:

I agree that it really stinks how much Smackdown got crapped on in the draft. I thought 3 of their picks were at least decent (Flair, Dykstra, and the Major Brothers), but the rest were just average to complete and utter garbage. Raw again, had improved again on the supplemental draft. The London & Kendrick pick was big for Raw, and William Regal is decent, since he could get some decent feuds (since he's friends with HHH). ECW got significantly better through the supp draft too. I don't care about Vis, but I think Miz could possibly be used in the New Breed (like Matt Striker) and Johnny Nitro is a great pickup because he can (and probably may) feud with CM Punk right away.

I just read the Slammiversary results, and I was 4 for 8. I did pick all the championship matches correctly. FYI, Rick Steiner teamed with Road Warrior Animal, and they lost. The 5th mystery man from the KOTM match was Chris Harris. Jeff Jarrett picked him, because he had the option of picking himself, or someone else. I was right about them booking Abyss and Tomko, but they didn't use the winner of that as the 5th participant. They also did an emotional homage to Jill Jarrett before the match.

But, it's cool to have some new champions. With Jay Lethal, I had a feeling he'd win, since his Macho Man gimmick is WAY OVER (although it's unoriginal). And, I had a feeling Angle will win, since they've been pushing him since he walked out of WWE. Even though I like Angle as champ, I think it's rather weird that TNA is going the direction in immediately pushing former WWE big stars over their own guys. But, hopefully this will start another Joe-Angle feud for the belt eventually. If they do re-kindle that feud, I think they should wait a few months though, since they waited way too soon the first time around, and may have killed some of the potential overall luster of that feud.

Raw should be interesting tomorrow. I'm interesting to see what will develop from the Vince McMahon "death". WWE is starting to get interesting again, and I'm actually anxious to see where there gonna go with this.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:51 pm Post subject:

TNA news: Ron Killings and Konnan quit the company before the Impact tapings yesterday. Killings I'm not surprised about, but Konnan leaving is a surprise. I wonder what will happen to Latin American Exchange, due to this? I would imagine, they could just get a new manager or do fine without one.

WWE news: Vengeance is this Sunday. 8 out of 9 matches are confirmed. Deuce and Domino still don't have opponents. I guess it will be Major Brothers or some randomly thrown together teams (as there is no other active teams left). As I thought: it looks like Chris Benoit will be the new ECW champ. He faces CM Punk in a match to crown the new champion at Vengeance. I dont see Punk winning the title just yet. Overall: Vengeance looks decent, and could be a little better than Slammiversary was.

As for the McMahon death angle: it's interesting, and hopefully the culprit isn't Austin or Hart (as I've said before). At least it's new to WWE, instead of the "who got hit by a car" storyline (which happened at least 2 times over the period of only a few years I believe).

June is almost over: and no King of the Ring tournament. I wonder if they decided to not have it this year? That would be a shame, as KOTR last year was good, which brought us King Booker. Overall, Booker and his court were great heels. There is some time, for a short tournament at least...but I don't have high hopes it will happen.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 5:47 pm Post subject:

The main event for Victory Road has been announced: the world champ and X champ against the tag champs. The wrestler that gets the victory wins the belt from whoever he pinned (or made submit). If a tag champ is pinned: the wrestler chooses a partner, and isn't stuck with the person he teamed with for the event. As of now: it's Kurt Angle+Samoa Joe against Team 3-D. There is still 3 Impacts (I think) before Victory Road, so the match could change.

Rey Mysterio is expected to return to action when Raw tours Mexico in July. I don't think it's set he will be joining the Raw brand fulltime though.

Team 3-D is expected to face King Booker and a mystery partner at Booker's PWA show (I think it's in July sometime). I'm a bit surprised TNA is allowing wrestlers to work with WWE on this show. Its not a WWE show, or televised... but it still seems strange to me.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject:

First Sherri, now Chris Benoit! Sad

He was found dead by Atlanta police today. The Raw tonight is a tribute to Chris Benoit, which I wish I could see.
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Skittles · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:25 am Post subject:

The deaths have been confirmed to be a double murder/suicide. Chris killed his wife and son on sunday and then killed himself on monday. I wonder what drove chris to do such a horrible thing? I feel bad for his wife and son Sad

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coralvalley · Lifeless Person Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 918

I cannot for the life of me even begin to understand what could drive a person to that extreme considering that I could see clearly how important Benoit's son was to him. It is truly horrible to think of what has happened. I have met the guy before and he always came off as being so polite and professional and you could just see the love he felt for his family in the way that he carried himself. Not only has this news been shocking and devastating, but I cannot even begin to understand what it is that could take someone to that point. Unfortunately even though he was a good wrestler and had a lot of amazing matches he will only be remembered for the events that have transpired over the last week. It is truly an unfortunate situation and a real tragedy. My thoughts and prayers go out to his surviving children and his family during this time. This is truly a heartbreaking tale on so many levels.

Rob1981 · Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:25 pm Post subject:

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