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Obecorp · Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:26 am Post subject:

There actually has been a lot of negative Internet feedback as far as Hornswoggle being the illegitimate son. Just go to youtube and you will find a hoard of "wannabe internet smarks" griping about it. You are right about these Internet fans being ignorant wannabe smarks though. If you look at it, most of the Internet fans are like this.

Lethal's over is pretty over, imo, and he is well deserving for the X-title. Sure, it is a ripoff of Randy Savage, but Lethal really has his character down to a T. When he first did that gimmick, it got over with many fans very quickly. Just listen to the reaction he had in Lockdown. As far as Dustin Rhodes, his "Black Reign" or "Black Dust" character is a joke. This is another WWE-ish gimmick that is taking up valuable airtime in TNA.

The TNA BFG PPV may be the biggest PPV of the year for TNA. TNA seems like they are giving plenty of time to build up the announced matches, which would make it really good. They do need a lot of momentum since they are expanding. This PPV really does have potential, and hopefully it will get them some buyrates, since they are in serious need of it if they are serious with competing with the WWE. Personally, even with this 2-hour deal, TNA still has a long long way to go, and do more things right to seriously compete with the WWE. In my eyes, if TNA doesn't increase their ratings in 6 months, even with the 2 hour deal, they are in serious trouble.

I didn't watch Unforgiven, but it is noteworthy that Batista got the title back (after his 1 millionth attempt this year), since many fans complained about Khali having the title. I don't think he'll get in a feud with The Undertaker right away. They did drop a lot of hints that Taker wants his belt back, but I feel it might be too soon after his return. If anything, if it happens, I don't see it happening until Survivor Series or later.
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Obecorp · Posted: Sat Sep 22, 2007 2:48 pm Post subject:

The Teddy Long/Kristal wedding took place on Smackdown this past week. A lot of people are probably gonna bash it, but I thought it was extremely entertaining. A lot of funny things taking place, such as Godfather and the Ho-Train (I personally found it funny that CM Punk left with the Ho Train, since he's supposed to be "straightedge"), and the Hornswoggle bit with Coach. As I was watching it, even without reading the spoilers, I had no doubt that Teddy Long was gonna have a heart attack at the end. It was a bad acting job from Teddy and Kristal though. Nevertheless, I was entertained.

As far as Impact goes, I thought it was actually alright this week. The Judas Mesias debut really developed his character, and the AJ-Ron Killings match was an entertaining match to watch. The Rikishi-Christian match was watchable, but nothing too special. But overall, I liked Impact this week.

IMO, the wrestling business could be looking up. Undertaker is back, and Y2J is rumored to come back in the next few months somewhere (my guess the WWE). Also, when the WWE brings back their suspended wrestlers (most notably Kennedy), they can possibly bring back/develop some nice storylines. Plus, I think when Cena finally loses the belt (which I'm guessing may be before the new year) people may start buzzing about the WWE a lot. And, with TNA getting their 2 hour deal, and they are making some big moves. If they do the right things, they can seriously start trying to compete against the WWE, which will overall make the wrestling business better. Hopefully, we'll see all that within the next few months.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Sun Sep 23, 2007 5:36 am Post subject:

Jericho rumors have been going around for a while now, I'll believe it when it actually happens. Either way: one wrestler can't improve a company. His return to WWE (or debut in TNA) will cause ratings to improve for a little bit, but it won't be a significant change after about a month or so.

The wedding on Smackdown was alright. I was just waiting for the stupid ending, and then it happened: Teddy Long apparently had a heart attack. So now what? Vickie Guerrero will be GM, or they bring in someone else, or use Kristal as GM until he recovers? Or perhaps Long does segments from a hospital, and remains as GM? Frankly, I want a new GM to be on Smackdown. I've been tired of Teddy for a while now.

The best part of Smackdown: JBL confronting Rey Mysterio. It looks as if JBL will finally return to the ring sometime this year. I hope it's on a regular basis, but finding a replacement on the announce team might be hard to do.

In other WWE news, Ric Flair has announced he will retire next year. I'll believe it when I see it. Many older wrestlers (Terry Funk as the main example) claim retirement, then come back.

In TNA news:

Obecorp · Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 1:03 pm Post subject:

coralvalley · Lifeless Person Joined: 17 Nov 2004 Posts: 918

Currently with TNA, I'm excited about the new two hour show because I really love the show most of the time because it will give people more of a chance to see all the people they like instead of just focusing mainly on a few little bit of the character. I'm a huge Kurt Angle fan and I have been for quite some time and I like the guy for real life, he'll still always be my favorite, but I've been having a pain with him on the show and his wife. He is the character I like to see the least on the show as of current and I absolutely want Sting to win against him at Bound For Glory. I've never not stood behind Angle and maybe I'm the only one that thinks this, but I don't see it possible for me standing behind Angle with his wife by his side. The two drive me crazy during a normal show and I'm just ready to see them step back and not be the center of the show anymore. I'm looking forward to see more of people like Christian, AJ, Tomko, Daniels and people that really deserve to have some air time. Kurt Angle deserves it, but the amount he is getting it at is ridiculous.

As of late, I have been enjoying WWE more than TNA which is a big rare for me, but I've really enjoyed the whole storyline with McMahon and his secret child. I'm really enjoying the interactions with McMahon and Triple H throughout the storyline. On Raw, I don't have much of a feeling for Randy Orton vs. John Cena because I don't feel that type of match has the dynamic to make really a main event. I don't really like Cena or Orton and don't think they have what it really takes to make the show. I could really care less about those feuds with Cena or Orton because I think Triple H and McMahon are really taking a good amount of amusement on Raw.

On Smackdown, I'm not really liking the whole Teddy Long passing out and having a heart attack thing because that was way overacted and expected. It was actually pathetic to see the show like that hearing the screaming of the bride was just terrible and knowing what's coming next is the worst part.

I do love the fact though that Batista is now the champion. It's great to see him have the title back on his shoulder and to be the third time champ. It's good to finally see it away from Khali and I'm excited to possibly see a Taker and Batista feud in the future. It will be just as cool as it was around the Wrestlemania time. That's the best wrestling event so far in the last few weeks. Taker coming back and Batista winning the title, that was the greatest thing in wrestling for me lately.

Rob1981 · Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject:

Obecorp · Posted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:44 am Post subject:

To further expand on the Y2J rumors, they seem to be stronger than ever now because of the SAVE_US.222 video that aired on Raw on Monday. When I watched Raw on Monday, I must not have been paying attention too much because I didn't really remember seeing it, but it's generating a lot of talk in the Internet, with people analyzing this video frame by frame. From the looks of it, it seems many of the clues have been pointing out to Jericho. For example, there was a possible WWE: The Music Vol. 4 reference, a biblical reference to a verse in the book of Joshua about breaking down the walls of Jericho, etc. I must say, that this is pretty interesting, and it has a lot of people in the Internet talking. Whoever came up with this idea in WWE creative should be promoted.

I have never watched Survivor in my life, so I didn't care too much about Ashley being on there. The question is now, what are they gonna do with her? Will she go back to Smackdown and possibly feud with Kristal again? or will they bring her to Raw to manage London and Kendrick again, and possibly down the road contend for the Women's title? If I had a guess, WWE may pull another swerve and bring her to Raw.

TNA Impact will debut it's new 2 hour timeslot next week. It should be interesting to see how everything goes. I have said it before, they better not screw this up, if they are serious about competing with the WWE. I believe it was Bryan Alvarez (from F4WOnline.com) who said once that TNA was considered the "arena league" of pro wrestling. I can't agree more.

And, I'm not gonna see the Game Plan. Though it looks a little funny and that it could be decent, the plot looks familiar and recycled.
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Obecorp · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:10 am Post subject:

Breaking News: CENA IS INJURED! A new champion will be crowned in No Mercy.

Cena was injured during the match with Kennedy on Raw, and torn his pec. A couple of years ago, I took an anti-Cena stance, but over the last few months during his reign this past year, he has slowly won me over. Don't get me wrong, he's still not that great skillwise, but people are jumping for joy that Cena will be off TV and is no longer champ, and those people are just not that smart. Losing your most dependable guy, who is also your top draw will hurt the company. Not only that, it will hurt the wrestling business in general. Raw hasn't been doing a great job pushing it's talent, so now, who ever is gonna have the belt is either not gonna be as credible, or gonna be just as stale (or more). If HHH gets the belt, my prediction is that it will be 2002 all over again, which is not a good thing.

If Chris Jericho is gonna be back in the WWE, as much as wrestling needs him and as much buzz as he's creating, I don't think he can save the WWE. Since he's got other things outside wrestling (such as book promos) that he's doing, I'm guessing he won't be working a full time schedule. And, they probably won't be able to use him right if he's not in the road full time. Not to mention, if/when he comes back, depending on his position, he might be jobbing to HHH again.

TNA's 2 hour spot will debut on Thursday. I didn't read the spoilers, but from what I hear from people, they didn't exactly do a good job making an Impact (pun intended). If that's the case, then there's little to no hope for TNA.

Lastly, check out ROH's Driven PPV. It's probably the PPV of the year.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 11:22 am Post subject:

No Mercy is this Sunday, and it's pretty slopped together in my view. It's this Sunday, and the hype for matches isn't there. Out of all the matches: I believe only Batista/Khali has gotten enough time to advertise it.

The card as of now:

*World champ Batista vs Great Khali in a Punjabi Prison match: I see this as being a dud, with Batista retaining.

*WWE title match to determine a new champ: probably Randy Orton against whoever.

*ECW champ CM Punk vs Big Daddy V: I expect this to be a dud. WWE is trying to tick fans off, aren't they? V needs to go, period.

*Triple H vs Umaga: could be decent, but I don't expect anything too great. I think it could be likely, these two could be thrown into a 3-way with Orton to determine a WWE champ.

*Rey Mysterio vs Finlay: should be decent. I expect JBL to interfere in some way, to setup a Rey/JBL match sometime in the future (perhaps at Survivor Series).

*Women's champ Candice Michelle vs Beth Phoenix: typical "filler match". Candice will retain I would imagine.

I expect at least 1 more match to be added: either a Smackdown tag title match, or possibly a Raw tag title match. If not, the card is final I guess. Overall, the card is pretty poor and seems rushed. Most of the card doesn't have much build up.

In WWE news, Flair and the company are still having problems. Flair owes them money, because they paid for his taxes. The Raw head writer is against Flair getting a push before his retirement. I would imagine things could get settled sometime, as I doubt Flair will just quietly retire from wrestling.
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Roonkat1 · Novice Poster Joined: 03 Oct 2007 Posts: 35

Another injury. John Cena is out for 6 - 8 months.

This means he will have to give up his title and the match at No Mercy with Orton is off. But there will be a new champ crowned at the PPV.

Obecorp · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:04 am Post subject:

My thoughts on WWE No Mercy...

From looking at the card, it does look like it was just thrown together, and it does not look all that impressive. 4 title matches, 2 other matches, and no tag-team matches. Batista-Khali is not a match that anybody is looking forward too, and the booking leading to the Vis-CM Punk match was just wrong (how could you build up an Elimination Chase for 3 weeks, only to have the winner to be a person who wasn't in that chase?). They will have to throw another match in there, I'm sure.

With all that being said, I am going to guess that this PPV is going to do a pretty good buyrate. Why? People are going to buy this PPV to see who's gonna win the title. Cena has been the champion for a year straight, and for most of the past 2 years. People are going to tune in to see who will be the next champ.

Also, with Chris Jericho or HBK rumored to come back (although I will believe it when I see it) people will also tune in because of the hype and anticipation.

And, I'm almost certain that something big will happen in No Mercy. Whether it be something I mentioned above, or something else totally different. But whatever that thing is, it will get people talking on Monday Night.

I for one, won't be buying No Mercy, but I will follow it on another way. I will be watching football instead. But, it should be interesting to see what kind of feedback this PPV will draw.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 2:38 pm Post subject:

Huge news! World Championship Wrestling is back or is it just a hoax?

http://www.ticketmaster.com/artist/841273/

http://www.columbusciviccenter.org/event_WCW.htm

In the event description, it says "mother nature's boy". That seems odd though. At first glance, I thought it was a hint at Ric Flair. But the mother part didn't make sense. It could be a typo I suppose. Tickets go on sale tomorrow, the event takes place October 28.

I see no proof WWE has anything to do with it, so it indeed could be some indy fed trying to get attention or just a hoax. Seeing as how WWE owns the World Championship Wrestling and it's information, I expect a lawsuit if it's indeed a hoax.

I would expect this to be cleared up sometime soon, as WWE will get word of it. So the information could either be removed, or WWE will indeed announce the return of WCW.

In other news, Kurt Angle was arrested last week for drunk driving. This was just made public today I believe. I would hope TNA punishes him somehow for this stupid behavior.
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Rob1981 · Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 7:09 am Post subject:

No Mercy was last night, it seemed alright...but I certainly don't agree with 3 WWE title changes. At the start of the show: Randy Orton was awarded the title. Then he fought Triple H, and lost the title. Then at the end of the show: Orton regained the title by beating Triple H.

Also at No Mercy, Batista retained, and Beth Phoenix won the Women's title. CM Punk also retained in the worst match of the night in my view. Under 2 minutes, and Punk wins by DQ over Big Daddy V.

So a card of 8 matches: 2 of them featured Orton/Triple H, and 3 of them featured Triple H. I see a big problem here. Mark Henry, MVP, Matt Hardy, Undertaker and Kane (and others) werent in matches. No tag title matches, no U.S, I.C or cruiserweight title matches. Instead there was a stupid pizza eating contest that involved MVP and Hardy. I doubt expect all events to have every title on the line, but there should be some importance shown to the others more often.

Cyber Sunday is up next, which is hopefully better (but I doubt it). WWE loads the options to horrible choices, which usually leads to an obvious winning vote (way before the voting is closed).
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